Bob Dylan

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Shitty guitar player and even though he has a decent voice (Lay Lady Lay) he deliberately doesn't even try to sing well.

That being said probably the most important pop music songwriter post WW2.

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Shitty guitar player and even though he has a decent voice (Lay Lady Lay) he deliberately does even try to sing well.

That being said probably the most important pop music songwriter post WW2.

What about the guitar playing over 'Don't think Twice it's Arlight?' that song seems very difficult to play.

Sucks

Yes

The man

Danny Tanner wrote:Sucks

Pretty funny that someone that is paying tribute to Danny Tanner from Fullhouse thinks he sucks.

One of America's great poets...

He put on an awesome show at the MSU Auditorium in November of 1996.

CheesySpartan wrote:One of America's great poets...

I prefer his songs to be actually performed by others though.

Turtleneck wrote:

He put on an awesome show at the MSU Auditorium in November of 1996.

Saw him once on the love is theft tour. It wasn't a mind blower but I was stoked to see him. Love his live at Albert hall album.

Saw him twice. First time I went I wasn't expecting anything and he totally blew me away. So the next time he came to town I went again and he absolutely sucked. And Willie Nelson sucked that night too. In all that was one shitty concert.

May 13, 2003
Regency Park Amphitheater, Cary, NC

Maggie's Farm
Tonight I'll Be Staying Here with You
Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
Just Like a Woman
Things Have Changed
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
(Acoustic)
Cold Irons Bound
Watching the River Flow
Love Sick
Highway 61 Revisited
Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Honest with Me
Floater (Too Much to Ask)
Summer Days

Encore:
Like a Rolling Stone
All Along the Watchtower


June 12, 2005
Five County Stadium, Zebulon, NC (home of Class A Carolina Mudcats)
Minor Baseball Stadium Tour with Willie Nelson and Family


Drifter's Escape
Love Minus Zero/No Limit
God Knows
The Times They Are A-Changin'
Highway 61 Revisited
Tryin' to Get to Heaven
Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
Blind Willie McTell
Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
New Morning
Summer Days
Encore:
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
All Along the Watchtower

Highway 61 and Mobile were almost unrecognizable.

Can't really blame the guy for being old and still wanting to rock out. He probably should have stopped doing shows before he started to suck though. He's never had a great voice or anything but he's probably one of the best folk singer/songwriters ever.

Here's a nicely butchered version of Mobile.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

I prefer his songs to be actually performed by others though.

Going off this list, in most cases I definitely prefer the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artists_who_have_covered_Bob_Dylan_songs


The exceptions where I prefer the Cover:

All Along the Watchtower, Quinn The Mighty Eskimo, My Back Pages (Byrds Version), It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (13th Floor Elevators Version), Nothing Was Delivered (The Byrds)

don't particularly care for him.

Mr. Tambourine Man is one of the greatest songs ever made

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Here's a nicely butchered version of Mobile.

Wow, is his key board even plugged in?

Actually kind of found it funny watching him try to dance and I can't figure out if he is board or into it. Song starts at 5:40.

I once shared his politics ( though I don't know what his politics are today) and learned to play guitar strumming along with his records. I the days of vinyl- I owned 10 of his records ( including 2 double albums) He was a musician/performer whose talent and unique delivery influenced his peers and a generation of music lovers.

Bottom line is: Its great music, even though some of his more "preachy" leftist rants I can do without.

Which ones are those Jethro?

I don't like his music. His lyrics are fun to read, but when he sings them, it all goes bad.

Rocinante wrote:Which ones are those Jethro?

Blowing in the Wind in general:

Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can really see the sky?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

just a bit preachy

This is downright childish:

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'

Haughty, arrogant and written by a 21 year old guy who hadn't reached the age where he realized that his parents weren't so stupid after all.


I could give more, but here's my last example: Its the last verse of a long winded propaganda piece on a convicted murderer, Hurricane Carter:

Now all the criminals in their coats and their ties
Are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise
While Rubin sits like Buddha in a ten-foot cell
An innocent man in a living hell
That's the story of the Hurricane
But it won't be over till they clear his name
And give him back the time he's done
Put him in a prison cell but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Carter was found GUILTY twice. The evidence was overwhelming.  The bullshit celebrity propaganda machine led by people like Dylan overshadowed the FACTS of the case. The Hollywood movie was a complete fabrication.. Carter got out on a technicality and was lucky that because 20+ years had transpired since the crime,  and his parole date was only a few years away. Here is a nice link to a factual news article .   http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/04/spare_us_the_lies_about_the_late_hurricane_carter_mulshine.html

Its just that BS that makes me roll my eyes. But overall, he is very talented and I like his music a lot. He's like Woody Harrelson, He's a political nut but I love his acting.  

Jethro Bodeen wrote:

Blowing in the Wind in general:

Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can really see the sky?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

just a bit preachy

This is downright childish:

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'

Haughty, arrogant and written by a 21 year old guy who hadn't reached the age where he realized that his parents weren't so stupid after all.


I could give more, but here's my last example: Its the last verse of a long winded propaganda piece on a convicted murderer, Hurricane Carter:

Now all the criminals in their coats and their ties
Are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise
While Rubin sits like Buddha in a ten-foot cell
An innocent man in a living hell
That's the story of the Hurricane
But it won't be over till they clear his name
And give him back the time he's done
Put him in a prison cell but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Carter was found GUILTY twice. The evidence was overwhelming.  The bullshit celebrity propaganda machine led by people like Dylan overshadowed the FACTS of the case. The Hollywood movie was a complete fabrication.. Carter got out on a technicality and was lucky that because 20+ years had transpired since the crime,  and his parole date was only a few years away. Here is a nice link to a factual news article .   http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/04/spare_us_the_lies_about_the_late_hurricane_carter_mulshine.html

Its just that BS that makes me roll my eyes. But overall, he is very talented and I like his music a lot. He's like Woody Harrelson, He's a political nut but I love his acting.  

Do you understand the context of the times in which those songs were written?

I've seen him three times. The show Turtleneck mentioned (which was awesome), then another time two years or so later (still really good)... and then at the Whitecaps stadium with Willie Nelson. He had fallen waaaaay off when I caught him at that show.

Great songwriter. Influential.

The Rubin Carter case was a mess all around. He did 20 years. The juries were all white. He was convicted twice under dubious circumstances. Who the hell knows what heppened with all the meddling with evidence and witnesses that went on.

Overrated artist and poet. Still good....but overrated.

http://www.npr.org/2015/08/28/435577938/a-new-ride-down-dylans-highway-what-do-millennials-think-of-the-album

Highway 61 turns 50 this weekend. Here's what a bunch of millennials think of the album.

Was never tempted to buy one of his albums even though I bought some that might be considered worse

The Pantry wrote:Was never tempted to buy one of his albums even though I bought some that might be considered worse

You can't go wrong with Highway 61.

Don't think twice is on right now! Harmonica!!

DWags wrote:The greatest. Was shakin trees back in the 60's like a mother fucker.

Grew up listening to Dylan on road trips with the old man. He's the biggest non-pot smoking fan there is. Completely different genres and styles, but he is a 60s/70s Eminem. One of a kind blues/rock musician.

I hated him and his stupid voice all my life, until about 6-8 months ago, when I picked up Blonde on Blonde on a whim at the library. It wouldn't come out of my car's CD player until I just went out and bought it. And Bringing It All Back Home, and Highway 61 Revisited, and Blood on the Tracks, and Planet Waves. I was done. Full-fledged Bob fan. The man is a fucking changeling. One of the greatest poets of all time.

I don't want to live in a world where "Desolation Row" or "Highway 61 Revisited" or "Visions of Johanna" don't exist. Pure genius.

I overpaid for bob dylan tickets at Interlochen a couple years ago. Fucking. Horrible. FUCKING. HORRIBLE.

I wanted to leave after two songs because 1) the band was fucking horrible, and 2) you couldn't understand a single fucking word ole Bob was garbling.....

I didn't leave because I was there with three other people who had paid the same amount to be there, and I had talked them into going. I was sick when, after we were walking out, I admitted that it was the worst concert I'd ever been a part of, and they all, pretty much, started crying..... It was worse than death.... I mean, as far as shitty concerts go.

How is this fuckwad even famous? He is fucking motherfucking turrible. Fuck him, I hope he dies soon, and then we do the whole "three days worth of 'Rob Dylan was a great song guy' thing on TV" and then he can just go away.

Fuck him. Horrible.

Knockin on heaven's door just came through on Pandora sitting by the backyard fire. I like Dylan.