tOfficial 2023 MSU Basketball Recruiting Thread

by **Turtleneck** Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:48 am

Michigan State offers 2023 C Austin Parks of Saint Mary's, Ohio

Parks — who is listed at 6-foot-9 and 240 pounds — visited Michigan State on Monday, where it appears the Spartans handed him a scholarship offer. Parks is currently unranked on 247Sports in the 2023 class.

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2021/08/16/michigan-state-offers-2023-c-austin-parks-of-saint-marys-ohio/

by **Turtleneck** Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:17 pm

Michigan State basketball could land perfect backcourt combo in 2023 class

https://spartanavenue.com/2021/10/07/michigan-state-basketball-land-perfect-backcourt-combo-2023-class/

by **Nordic** Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:40 pm

Turtleneck wrote:Michigan State basketball could land perfect backcourt combo in 2023 class

https://spartanavenue.com/2021/10/07/michigan-state-basketball-land-perfect-backcourt-combo-2023-class/

Sounds good. Finish the deal. Thanks Travis.

by **Turtleneck** Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:19 am

Michigan State basketball makes top-5 for highly coveted 2023 PG Jeremy Fears Jr.

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2021/12/10/michigan-state-basketball-makes-top-5-for-highly-coveted-2023-pg-jeremy-fears-jr/

by **Turtleneck** Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:21 pm

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by **NigelUno** Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:09 am

Announcing today. Balls are crystallizing.

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Jeremy-Fears-at-La-Lumiere-School-258105/CurrentExpertPredictions/

by **Floyd Robertson** Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:52 pm

Fears Not! The only thing we have to Fears is Fears himself!

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by **Floyd Robertson** Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:56 pm

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by **Turtleneck** Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:30 am

I know some of you have been acting out lately because of basketball recruiting anxiety, so hope you are able to relax a little bit.

Couch: Jeremy Fears Jr. is the latest reason there shouldn't be anxiety over MSU basketball recruiting

https://autos.yahoo.com/autos/couch-jeremy-fears-jr-latest-224857282.html

by **kingstonlake** Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:02 pm

Not to be a Debbie downer but Oh boy. Another undersized PG..... Watch this clip and tell.me with all honesty he's anything over 5'11"..... that being said I hope he's an alltimer!

by **Turtleneck** Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:40 pm

Strength and speed, which he seems to have, are also very important.

by AvgMSUJoe Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:48 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Not to be a Debbie downer but Oh boy. Another undersized PG..... Watch this clip and tell.me with all honesty he's anything over 5'11"..... that being said I hope he's an alltimer!

Well, we got 5'9" (er...6') Walker and 6'4" Hoggard... Neither are heads or tails above the other.

by **NigelUno** Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:09 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Not to be a Debbie downer but Oh boy. Another undersized PG..... Watch this clip and tell.me with all honesty he's anything over 5'11"..... that being said I hope he's an alltimer!

Well, we got 5'9" (er...6') Walker and 6'4" Hoggard... Neither are heads or tails above the other.

Walker > Hoggard

by **Turtleneck** Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:12 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Not to be a Debbie downer but Oh boy. Another undersized PG..... Watch this clip and tell.me with all honesty he's anything over 5'11"..... that being said I hope he's an alltimer!

Well, we got 5'9" (er...6') Walker and 6'4" Hoggard... Neither are heads or tails above the other.

Sounds like Hoggard is definitely above Walker.

by AvgMSUJoe Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:21 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Well, we got 5'9" (er...6') Walker and 6'4" Hoggard... Neither are heads or tails above the other.

Sounds like Hoggard is definitely above Walker.

by **tGreenWay** Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:44 pm

Turtleneck wrote:Michigan State basketball makes top-5 for highly coveted 2023 PG Jeremy Fears Jr.

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2021/12/10/michigan-state-basketball-makes-top-5-for-highly-coveted-2023-pg-jeremy-fears-jr/

Are we still in the top five?

by **NigelUno** Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:28 pm

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by **Nordic** Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:17 pm

He looks tough. I like tough.

by Pervis Muldoon Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:10 am

Nordic wrote:He looks tough. I like tough.

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by **NigelUno** Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:23 pm

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by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:22 pm

Sounds like a front court player is gone. Haven’t said who yet

by **duffy munn** Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:51 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Sounds like a front court player is gone. Haven’t said who yet

Man I hope it's not Marble. I know his D is awful but a reliable scoring big is a must for this team.

Where are you hearing this OTPT?

by **DWags** Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:08 pm

Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.

by **duffy munn** Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:11 pm

DWags wrote:Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.

I hate the portal.

by **DWags** Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:12 pm

duffy munn wrote:
DWags wrote:Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.
DWags wrote:Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.

I hate the portal.

Well, we loved it in football, but yeah, there is good and bad. As much as Izzo hates it, he needs to keep shopping it daily.

by **NigelUno** Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:13 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Sounds like a front court player is gone. Haven’t said who yet

Who hasn't said who?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:39 pm

duffy munn wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Sounds like a front court player is gone. Haven’t said who yet

Man I hope it's not Marble. I know his D is awful but a reliable scoring big is a must for this team.

Where are you hearing this OTPT?

Ya as d wags said some reputable sources. I hope it’s Sissoko and not marble or hall

Also is there really a difference now and before it was called “the portal” outside of the not sitting a year?

by **DWags** Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:02 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Man I hope it's not Marble. I know his D is awful but a reliable scoring big is a must for this team.

Where are you hearing this OTPT?

Ya as d wags said some reputable sources. I hope it’s Sissoko and not marble or hall

Also is there really a difference now and before it was called “the portal” outside of the not sitting a year?

In my most sarcastic writing: that’s all the difference you need. It also leads to tampering. Example, a PSU football player declares for the portal. Two days later he’s enrolled at LSU. Tell me phone calls and bag men aren’t involved when stuff line that happens. Its great for the kids I guess. Coaches are going to have to actively re-recruit their top players and get them NIL deals. Good for the players. Game changers.

by **duffy munn** Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:12 pm

DWags wrote:Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.

I'm sure Izzo will plug the holes with transfers. But the portal, combined with NIL and the regular dirty recruiting bullshit is gonna drive him out IMO. sooner than later.

by **DWags** Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:25 pm

duffy munn wrote:
DWags wrote:Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.

I'm sure Izzo will plug the holes with transfers. But the portal, combined with NIL and the regular dirty recruiting bullshit is gonna drive him out IMO. sooner than later.

Yep. Agree.

by **tGreenWay** Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:32 pm

Did anybody ever get the name of the player transferring out?

by **tGreenWay** Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:59 pm

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:02 pm

nothing official yet greenway.

by Rick Saunders Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:48 am

duffy munn wrote:
DWags wrote:Sounds like Ant Wright on Twitter. Thind is backing it up. So, Sissoko, Marble or Hall. We need to get into the portal or we coudl be in trouble next year.

I'm sure Izzo will plug the holes with transfers. But the portal, combined with NIL and the regular dirty recruiting bullshit is gonna drive him out IMO. sooner than later.

I feel a little like that too Duffy. I love all things MSU and sports are a great way to keep some kind of connection to the place especially when I am no longer proximal. But I gotta say, if every year it's going to be unrestricted free-agency for every player across the country my eyes are going to glaze over and I'm going to lose a substantial amount of interest.

It's fine to have to explain to my daughter every once in a while who Walker (pick your sport) is (because she doesn't recognize that guy) but when "you can't tell the players without a program" starts to apply to me then I'm going to be more likely to go on a hike than sit in front of the TV.

I get your point DWags, that it's good for the players and I can't say it's wrong that those who produce the entertainment shouldn't benefit from the spoils. So I'm not arguing against it so much as impatiently waiting for the quarterly Honors College and College of Natural Sciences newsletters.

by NumbersDude Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:56 am

Rick Saunders wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

I'm sure Izzo will plug the holes with transfers. But the portal, combined with NIL and the regular dirty recruiting bullshit is gonna drive him out IMO. sooner than later.

I feel a little like that too Duffy. I love all things MSU and sports are a great way to keep some kind of connection to the place especially when I am no longer proximal. But I gotta say, if every year it's going to be unrestricted free-agency for every player across the country my eyes are going to glaze over and I'm going to lose a substantial amount of interest.

It's fine to have to explain to my daughter every once in a while who Walker (pick your sport) is (because she doesn't recognize that guy) but when "you can't tell the players without a program" starts to apply to me then I'm going to be more likely to go on a hike than sit in front of the TV.

I get your point DWags, that it's good for the players and I can't say it's wrong that those who produce the entertainment shouldn't benefit from the spoils. So I'm not arguing against it so much as impatiently waiting for the quarterly Honors College and College of Natural Sciences newsletters.

Translation please.

by **duffy munn** Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:31 am

Rick Saunders wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

I'm sure Izzo will plug the holes with transfers. But the portal, combined with NIL and the regular dirty recruiting bullshit is gonna drive him out IMO. sooner than later.

I feel a little like that too Duffy. I love all things MSU and sports are a great way to keep some kind of connection to the place especially when I am no longer proximal. But I gotta say, if every year it's going to be unrestricted free-agency for every player across the country my eyes are going to glaze over and I'm going to lose a substantial amount of interest.

It's fine to have to explain to my daughter every once in a while who Walker (pick your sport) is (because she doesn't recognize that guy) but when "you can't tell the players without a program" starts to apply to me then I'm going to be more likely to go on a hike than sit in front of the TV.

I get your point DWags, that it's good for the players and I can't say it's wrong that those who produce the entertainment shouldn't benefit from the spoils. So I'm not arguing against it so much as impatiently waiting for the quarterly Honors College and College of Natural Sciences newsletters.

All good points. I started to lose interest in major league baseball when free agency kicked in. As a kid a could name pretty much every player in the AL east and every Tiger for a decade. Now I couldn't name 5 current Detroit Tigers.

I can never see myself not watching MSU football and basketball but man it's getting weird.

by **DWags** Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:43 am

As much as I am with Duffy and Rick here, I’m also going to be realistic. I was going nuts for Walker last year in football, and I would be doing the same thing if we get an outstanding portal player in basketball. I didn’t like college sports, because of the exploitation of the student athlete before this so I can’t say I’m not for them making money. They do deserve it. Scholarships are not money, they are scholarships. You can’t buy clothes with them you can’t buy food with them you can’t go on vacation with them you can’t buy a car with them. They have never been money, they have been scholarships. If any of us went to our job and we’re paid with free food in the cafeteria, and free cable or Internet, but not paid in money, none of us would take the job.

So, this is the world of college athletics right now. And while it seems we might be hurt in basketball, it sure helped us in football. And because I don’t want to lie to anyone, when the athletes were being exploited before I still put on my state gear and cheered like crazy for them. Now that the athletes have more power and have dictated the college scenes to the point where it’s just not the same to us, doesn’t mean I won’t be cheering like crazy for msu all next year and there after.

I’m just a slut for MSU athletics, I always will be, please don’t hate me

by **Trapper Gus** Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:53 am

DWags wrote:As much as I am with Duffy and Rick here, I’m also going to be realistic. I was going nuts for Walker last year in football, and I would be doing the same thing if we get an outstanding portal player in basketball. I didn’t like college sports, because of the exploitation of the student athlete before this so I can’t say I’m not for them making money. They do deserve it. Scholarships are not money, they are scholarships. You can’t buy clothes with them you can’t buy food with them you can’t go on vacation with them you can’t buy a car with them. They have never been money, they have been scholarships. If any of us went to our job and we’re paid with free food in the cafeteria, and free cable or Internet, but not paid in money, none of us would take the job.

So, this is the world of college athletics right now. And while it seems we might be hurt in basketball, it sure helped us in football. And because I don’t want to lie to anyone, when the athletes were being exploited before I still put on my state gear and cheered like crazy for them. Now that the athletes have more power and have dictated the college scenes to the point where it’s just not the same to us, doesn’t mean I won’t be cheering like crazy for msu all next year and there after.

I’m just a slut for MSU athletics, I always will be, please don’t hate me

What I like about it beyond what has already been said is that it further reduces the ability of the "name" schools to win by locking up all the better players as third string on thier teams.

Good players get to play now, like Walker did last year, and schools like Alabama cannot win by just having 5 star players sitting on the bench so they aren't playing against them.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:54 am

i'd still love to know what's changed so much to duffy and rick... everything just seems more out in the open and transparent now?

by **Turtleneck** Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:20 am

Rick Saunders wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

I'm sure Izzo will plug the holes with transfers. But the portal, combined with NIL and the regular dirty recruiting bullshit is gonna drive him out IMO. sooner than later.

I feel a little like that too Duffy. I love all things MSU and sports are a great way to keep some kind of connection to the place especially when I am no longer proximal. But I gotta say, if every year it's going to be unrestricted free-agency for every player across the country my eyes are going to glaze over and I'm going to lose a substantial amount of interest.

It's fine to have to explain to my daughter every once in a while who Walker (pick your sport) is (because she doesn't recognize that guy) but when "you can't tell the players without a program" starts to apply to me then I'm going to be more likely to go on a hike than sit in front of the TV.

I get your point DWags, that it's good for the players and I can't say it's wrong that those who produce the entertainment shouldn't benefit from the spoils. So I'm not arguing against it so much as impatiently waiting for the quarterly Honors College and College of Natural Sciences newsletters.

This will only last as long as the SEC and OSU (football) and the ACC and Kansas (basketball) see the benefit. We all know the NCAA does not call the shots.

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