Obsession - the tears of my enemies.

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DWags wrote:If the assholes Connor Stalion sent out to gather information arent' getting into any trouble, why should OSU and Rutgers get in trouble for it? Now Purdue for taking it, that is a commissioner question. Advanced "in person scouting" using an agent, illegally, to help your team out. So, put Purdue on the same platform as Michigan. But just like Stalion's agents won't get punishment, I don't see where OSU and Rutgers should.

Has it been determined that the information you gained from in game scouting is illegal to give to other schools? Say for instance you notice JJ McSizzle feet are staggered on a pass play. Is it illegal to pass that on?

That is legal.

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Pay wall

Welp, Blake is lying. Angelique is going to have to scramble on this one maybe.

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I love a good controversy and I hate to piss over this, but I think the part people are missing with the sticker on the car is it not the same LLC.

From what I've gathered Blake's clothing line is BC2 LLC. That is the logo on the car. The Stallions/Corum (allegedly) is BC2 Housing LLC.

Now, I have no idea if Blake knew about BC2 Housing LLC or not. He claims not. Speculate away on this part. But I don't think this is a smoking gun that he knew of BC2 Housing LLC. It is connected to BC2 LLC.

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Turtleneck wrote:Imagine if Stalions really did file those business papers without Corum's knowledge. What a nut. The manifesto, blaming an MSU fan for the lawsuit, the elaborate scheming, all this points to delusions of grandeur and Stalions being not totally well. Even if he was a "rogue agent," given the level of his activity, it seems like Harbaugh had zero control over his program. Lack of evidence that directly ties Harbaugh to the cheating really doesn't matter given the scale of Stalions activities.

It would be fraud at that point and dude is going to jail... right?

So either Corum is lying or Stallions is going to jail.

That is my thought as well.

Turtleneck wrote:Imagine if Stalions really did file those business papers without Corum's knowledge. What a nut. The manifesto, blaming an MSU fan for the lawsuit, the elaborate scheming, all this points to delusions of grandeur and Stalions being not totally well. Even if he was a "rogue agent," given the level of his activity, it seems like Harbaugh had zero control over his program. Lack of evidence that directly ties Harbaugh to the cheating really doesn't matter given the scale of Stalions activities.

Dude sounds like a whack job. I would not be surprised that he did all this on his own. Michigan can clutch those pearls all they want. But it doesn't matter even if he did.

And his mentor would agree...

tRCMB thread has over 1M views

I bet our thread is better. It has Travis and pics of GreenWay’s ears.

Nordic wrote:tRCMB thread has over 1M views

I go over there and put all the trolls on ignore, about two per page.

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Not the actual HR, just a few of them, right? Probably a bunch of u of m republicans.

MSU fans in the legislature write a letter urging him to burn the UM foot all program to the ground.

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Nordic wrote:Wow

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Not the actual HR, just a few of them, right? Probably a bunch of u of m republicans.

I dont know the political parties, but of the 11, apparently 8 went to UMAA, 1 went to UM Dearborn, and the other two live in Washtenaw County.

What a bunch of clowns.

Definitely not a cult…..

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Not the actual HR, just a few of them, right? Probably a bunch of u of m republicans.

I dont know the political parties, but of the 11, apparently 8 went to UMAA, 1 went to UM Dearborn, and the other two live in Washtenaw County.

What a bunch of clowns.

Holy shit

You can’t make this shit up. Cheating is Sportsmanship.

They could of just taking a 2-game Harbs suspension (allegedly) and been done. They seem to be fighting this hard.
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As once said " everything is a God dam debate with them"

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That guy, while thinking of things he could conceivably need to buy one day

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Not the actual HR, just a few of them, right? Probably a bunch of u of m republicans.

I dont know the political parties, but of the 11, apparently 8 went to UMAA, 1 went to UM Dearborn, and the other two live in Washtenaw County.

What a bunch of clowns.

The letter was signed by state representatives Phil Skaggs (D), Graham Filler (R), Donovan McKinney (D), Carrie Rheingans (D), Jennifer A. Conlin (D), Jason Morgan (D), Felicia Brabec (D), Sue Shink (D), Jimmie Wilson Jr. (D), John Cherry (D) and Alabas Farhat (D).

Keep this list handy next time you go to the polls.

Michigan challenges Big Ten's authority to potentially punish Jim Harbaugh for sign-stealing scandal

Michigan has issued a response to the Big Ten's notification of potential disciplinary action amid the NCAA's ongoing probe into allegations of illegal sign-stealing. The 10-page letter, obtained by Yahoo Sports, contends that discipline from the Big Ten would constitute a "breach" of the conference's handbook and that any specific punishment directed at coach Jim Harbaugh "would exceed the commissioner's authority under the Sportsmanship Policy." ...

The Big Ten additionally received an eight-page letter from attorney Tom Mars, who represents Harbaugh, that argued in greater detail why the conference does not have the authority to punish the Michigan coach. The letter, obtained by Yahoo, alleges insufficient evidence and a lack of due process. Like the university, Harbaugh's attorneys also challenged the conference's ability to dole out punishment on the matter. ...

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They have lost their minds. That guy needs to see the same mental health professional as Corner Yearlings.

Nordic wrote:Michigan challenges Big Ten's authority to potentially punish Jim Harbaugh for sign-stealing scandal

Michigan has issued a response to the Big Ten's notification of potential disciplinary action amid the NCAA's ongoing probe into allegations of illegal sign-stealing. The 10-page letter, obtained by Yahoo Sports, contends that discipline from the Big Ten would constitute a "breach" of the conference's handbook and that any specific punishment directed at coach Jim Harbaugh "would exceed the commissioner's authority under the Sportsmanship Policy." ...

The Big Ten additionally received an eight-page letter from attorney Tom Mars, who represents Harbaugh, that argued in greater detail why the conference does not have the authority to punish the Michigan coach. The letter, obtained by Yahoo, alleges insufficient evidence and a lack of due process. Like the university, Harbaugh's attorneys also challenged the conference's ability to dole out punishment on the matter. ...

They are in this mess because their arrogance made them dumb. One wonders if this is not the same thing. Maybe the Big 10 is trying to punish them now so the NCAA will be satisfied later, so maybe the Big 10 says "fine, we tried to help you by taking the lead and calming the NCCA down but enjoy their ban hammer instead." Dumbasses.

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Is Dave just pissed because of the original article from espn? I’ve had a few conversations with him, and he’s a walvie grad and slappy through and through, but he was always a good talk. But this is beyond nuts.

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Is Dave just pissed because of the original article from espn? I’ve had a few conversations with him, and he’s a walvie grad and slappy through and through, but he was always a good talk. But this is beyond nuts.

He’s mad at Finebaum for something he said.

Nordic wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:



Is Dave just pissed because of the original article from espn? I’ve had a few conversations with him, and he’s a walvie grad and slappy through and through, but he was always a good talk. But this is beyond nuts.

He’s mad at Finebaum for something he said.

I’ll have to catch up on all the latest. I’m sure Finebaum is loving this, though.

You buddy seems miserable, GreenWay. Imagine acting this way just because you disagree with something somebody said about a football coach. All the things going on in the world, and this is the hill this moron plans to die on. What an entitled first world fool.

Turtleneck wrote:You buddy seems miserable, GreenWay. Imagine acting this way just because you disagree with something somebody said about a football coach. All the things going on in the world, and this is the hill this moron plans to die on. What an entitled first world fool.

Not my buddy, and I agree with you. We haven’t talked since he was a regular on Keith Olbermann’s show on msnbc.

You need a new best friend, GreenWay. I am a little offended that as your Swill buddy you didn’t mention this bloke before.

Hopefully it is loud in Happy Valley this weekend. Remember Harbaugh doesn't like it loud.

My guess is the waters have been muddied enough. Media outlets and TV personalities have gone back and forth enough to where the actual crime isn’t the story anymore. I expect a standard violation. 2 games.

La Petite could have shown a firm hand from jump street. Given out an indefinite suspension subject to review as more information comes in. He’s waddled and been indecisive enough that he won’t show any strength.

As with anything involving UM….. rinse repeat.

gomersbro wrote:Hopefully it is loud in Happy Valley this weekend. Remember Harbaugh doesn't like it loud.

Remember that rule? It was crazy.

Turtleneck wrote:

Nordic wrote:Michigan challenges Big Ten's authority to potentially punish Jim Harbaugh for sign-stealing scandal

They are in this mess because their arrogance made them dumb. One wonders if this is not the same thing. Maybe the Big 10 is trying to punish them now so the NCAA will be satisfied later, so maybe the Big 10 says "fine, we tried to help you by taking the lead and calming the NCCA down but enjoy their ban hammer instead." Dumbasses.

"Who are you going to believe, your lying eyes or what we are telling you."

Their arrogance knows no bounds.

Heather on ESPN sure made it sound like the Commissioner has a lot of leeway in doling out a punishment.

2 game suspension. Rest of season. Indefinite. Reprimand. $1 million fine. She had a whole laundry list of possibilities.

as I've been saying all along.. deny, deflect, discredit, make counter accusations and pretend to be the victim as your fanboys and accomplices in the media carry your water for you.

Trump 101.

On my way into work I’ll occasionally give 97.1’s morning show with weirdo Stoney and Fanboy Jansen 20 minutes of my time.

The words “what Purdue Rutgers and OSU did may be worse than what Michigan did” were actually spoken.

Fail to the cheaters valiant
Fail to the conjuring cheaters
Fail FAIL to Michigan the
Cheaters at best!

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Is Dave just pissed because of the original article from espn? I’ve had a few conversations with him, and he’s a walvie grad and slappy through and through, but he was always a good talk. But this is beyond nuts.

Didn't he used to be on MSNBC many years ago?

tGreenWay wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:You buddy seems miserable, GreenWay. Imagine acting this way just because you disagree with something somebody said about a football coach. All the things going on in the world, and this is the hill this moron plans to die on. What an entitled first world fool.

Not my buddy, and I agree with you. We haven’t talked since he was a regular on Keith Olbermann’s show on msnbc.

Forget the question in my previous post.

Rick Neuheisal told some illuminating stories about Harbaugh when he was at Stanford.

While being UCLA’s HC, Neuheisel got an irate call from Stanford’s HC Harbaugh calling him every name in the book accusing Neuheisal legal contact with a recruit n the LA area.  The player had committed to UCLA.  Neuheisal told him to call the conference if it really happened.  Nothing ever happened.

At a PAC 10 coaches meeting Harbaugh stated making accusations that USC was using conference officials and getting preferential treatment in games.  USC had PAC10 officials at many of their practices.  Harbaugh complained he couldn’t afford to have them that often because he didn’t have the money in his budget plus USC got an advantage due to personal relationship. 

Harbaugh was on a roll when Pete Carroll raised his hand and asked if Harbaugh was aware USC had been the most penalized team in the conference.  It got quite fast.

All this stuff including Stalions mess is classic Harbaugh.  Always coloring real close or over the line and complaining about others.