Re: If FSU left the ACC, what conference is the most likely landing spot?

by **Floyd Robertson** 2023-02-27, 20:29

Nordic wrote:This is kind of weird discussion as FSU would seem to be pretty low of the BIG's wishlist of ACC teams to pilfer. I'd rank them something like this.

Tier #1
UNC - Pretty clear #1 IMO.
GTech - Atlanta market. Obv academic reasons. Athletics are kinda meh. This would be like dipping the toe in the south without diving in head first. They have flirted with each other in the past.
UVA - Distant 3rd and I'm not sold on them being a clear #3, But they seem to be a better fit than the others.

Tier 2
Duke - Academic prestige ranking + UNC rivalry ties. Does no Coach K hurt drop them down? Probably. If they are needed to help lure UNC, sure, fine. Otherwise, nah.
Pitt - Natural rival with PSU. Probably ranked to high.
Syracuse - Who doesn't want the biggest TV market in the Americas?
NCSt - Seems like the only draw would be if they had to be packaged with UNC. I can't see them as a draw by themselves.
Virginia Tech - Personal pick. Blacksburg is a beautiful campus and Lane Stadium is awesome. Potential to help lure UVA puts them in Tier 2.

Tier 3
Miami - If you wanna say they should be in Tier 2, I won't argue. This is probably the only Tier 3 that has a chance. But I will never get over the fact that no one shows up for their football games. And I don't know if an on-campus stadium would solve that. The opposite of Blacksburg.
Boston College - No idea where to slot them for a variety of reasons, which kinda says it all. Just avoid.
Clemson - Seems more SEC than BIG.
Wake Forest - My buddy's wife went there, says it's nice. Good academic school for certain things. They are not in Florida. All I got.
FSU - I don't know enough about FSU to know what the draw would be.
Louisville - Seems like if they wanted them they could of had them already.

Tier Go Fuck Yourself
Notre Dame -

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by **Trapper Gus** 2023-02-27, 20:32

Nordic wrote:This is kind of weird discussion as FSU would seem to be pretty low of the BIG's wishlist of ACC teams to pilfer. I'd rank them something like this.

Tier #1
UNC - Pretty clear #1 IMO.
GTech - Atlanta market. Obv academic reasons. Athletics are kinda meh. This would be like dipping the toe in the south without diving in head first. They have flirted with each other in the past.
UVA - Distant 3rd and I'm not sold on them being a clear #3, But they seem to be a better fit than the others.

Tier 2
Duke - Academic prestige ranking + UNC rivalry ties. Does no Coach K hurt drop them down? Probably. If they are needed to help lure UNC, sure, fine. Otherwise, nah.
Pitt - Natural rival with PSU. Probably ranked to high.
Syracuse - Who doesn't want the biggest TV market in the Americas?
NCSt - Seems like the only draw would be if they had to be packaged with UNC. I can't see them as a draw by themselves.
Virginia Tech - Personal pick. Blacksburg is a beautiful campus and Lane Stadium is awesome. Potential to help lure UVA puts them in Tier 2.

Tier 3
Miami - If you wanna say they should be in Tier 2, I won't argue. This is probably the only Tier 3 that has a chance. But I will never get over the fact that no one shows up for their football games. And I don't know if an on-campus stadium would solve that. The opposite of Blacksburg.
Boston College - No idea where to slot them for a variety of reasons, which kinda says it all. Just avoid.
Clemson - Seems more SEC than BIG.
Wake Forest - My buddy's wife went there, says it's nice. Good academic school for certain things. They are not in Florida. All I got.
FSU - I don't know enough about FSU to know what the draw would be.
Louisville - Seems like if they wanted them they could of had them already.

Tier Go Fuck Yourself
Notre Dame -

Best run down I have seen "but since your hate for me has no bounds I probably shouldn't reply. /s"

by **Cameron** 2023-02-27, 21:25

The best way to improve relations is definitely not to be weird about it.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-27, 21:28

That first tier. I do not like all this realignment stuff, but that tier would make for some awesome B10 basketball.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-02-27, 21:38

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Back in the leather helmet era were not wings pretty common as the leather was cut and stitched that way?

I think it's widely recognized (by me) that MSU had the original winged helmet.

While we had winged helmets before umaa, I think Princeton had it first. Crisler brought it to scum when he moved to ann arbor and they’ve claimed it ever since.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-02-27, 22:19

Okay, I’ll be the outlier again and disagree about Notre Dame. No way would I beg, but I want them in the B1G and am willing to wait until they finally figure out it’s the best and most natural fit for them. ND is and has been our second biggest rival for the entirety of my life. The history between our schools is long and storied.

by **Nordic** 2023-02-27, 22:34

tGreenWay wrote:Okay, I’ll be the outlier again and disagree about Notre Dame. No way would I beg, but I want them in the B1G and am willing to wait until they finally figure out it’s the best and most natural fit for them. ND is and has been our second biggest rival for the entirety of my life. The history between our schools is long and storied.

I loved the rivalry. So many great games. But I don't miss playing them Schedule them for a non-conf series.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-27, 23:07

tGreenWay wrote:Okay, I’ll be the outlier again and disagree about Notre Dame. No way would I beg, but I want them in the B1G and am willing to wait until they finally figure out it’s the best and most natural fit for them. ND is and has been our second biggest rival for the entirety of my life. The history between our schools is long and storied.

I see we are at the "I'll wait for you!" stage of this one-sided love affair.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-27, 23:10

GreenWay when he starts thinking about Notre Dame

by **tGreenWay** 2023-02-28, 00:01

Nordic wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Okay, I’ll be the outlier again and disagree about Notre Dame. No way would I beg, but I want them in the B1G and am willing to wait until they finally figure out it’s the best and most natural fit for them. ND is and has been our second biggest rival for the entirety of my life. The history between our schools is long and storied.

I loved the rivalry. So many great games. But I don't miss playing them Schedule them for a non-conf series.

I’d love to get them back on the schedule regularly. If the games are OOC, so be it, but just get the rivalry going again.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-02-28, 00:03

Turtleneck wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Okay, I’ll be the outlier again and disagree about Notre Dame. No way would I beg, but I want them in the B1G and am willing to wait until they finally figure out it’s the best and most natural fit for them. ND is and has been our second biggest rival for the entirety of my life. The history between our schools is long and storied.

I see we are at the "I'll wait for you!" stage of this one-sided love affair.

It’s not just starting, it’s been an ongoing matter for years. The B1G would drop everything and head to South Bend if ND indicated it was finally ready to get serious about joining.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-02-28, 00:04

Turtleneck wrote:GreenWay when he starts thinking about Notre Dame

90s adult contemp. Fuck you’re old.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-28, 07:38

Not old enough to call anything adult contemp. Please do not ever say that again.

by **NigelUno** 2023-02-28, 08:12

Nordic wrote:To answer the OPs question. SEC.

FSU would seem to be pretty low on the BIG's wishlist of ACC teams to pilfer. I'd rank them something like this.

Tier #1
UNC - Pretty clear #1 IMO.
GTech - Atlanta market. Obv academic reasons. Athletics are kinda meh. This would be like dipping the toe in the south without diving in head first. They have flirted with each other in the past.
UVA - Distant 3rd and I'm not sold on them being a clear #3, But they seem to be a better fit than the others.

Tier 2
Duke - Academic prestige ranking + UNC rivalry ties. Does no Coach K hurt drop them down? Probably. If they are needed to help lure UNC, sure, fine. Otherwise, nah.
Pitt - Natural rival with PSU. Probably ranked to high.
Syracuse - Who doesn't want the biggest TV market in the Americas?
NCSt - Seems like the only draw would be if they had to be packaged with UNC. I can't see them as a draw by themselves.
Virginia Tech - Personal pick. Blacksburg is a beautiful campus and Lane Stadium is awesome. Potential to help lure UVA puts them in Tier 2.

Tier 3
Miami - If you wanna say they should be in Tier 2, I won't argue. This is probably the only Tier 3 that has a chance. But I will never get over the fact that no one shows up for their football games. And I don't know if an on-campus stadium would solve that. The opposite of Blacksburg.
Boston College - No idea where to slot them for a variety of reasons, which kinda says it all. Just avoid.
Clemson - Seems more SEC than BIG.
Wake Forest - My buddy's wife went there, says it's nice. Good academic school for certain things. They are not in Florida. All I got.
FSU - I don't know enough about FSU to know what the draw would be.
Louisville - Seems like if they wanted them they could of had them already.

Tier Go Fuck Yourself
Notre Dame -

I'm not sure any teams would make a wishlist. Not kidding.

Maybe Clemson from a football standpoint. ND if you want to count them as ACC. Maybe Pitt from a regional perspective.

MSU had the 6th highest attendance in the Big Ten last year. Would have been #2 in the ACC.

Georgia Tech is an afterthought even in Atlanta. There's more passion for Bama, Auburn and obviously Georgia. It would be like adding a lesser version of Northwestern.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-02-28, 08:21

Cameron wrote:The best way to improve relations is definitely not to be weird about it.

Written off as a lost cause, first post replying to one of his since he bitched me out in the MSU shooting thread, so added a bit. Pretty sure he has me on his enemies list so didn't see it anyway.

Also, this board is really bad at identifying sarcasm, at least from me, unless I add the "/S", which I went back and did.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-28, 08:42

Cameron wrote:The best way to improve relations is definitely not to be weird about it.

Hard disagree. If you're trying to improve relations, you have already lost. Winners let the losers do that kind of work. Be a winner, TG.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-02-28, 08:53

Turtleneck wrote:
Cameron wrote:The best way to improve relations is definitely not to be weird about it.

Hard disagree. If you're trying to improve relations, you have already lost. Winners let the losers do that kind of work. Be a winner, TG.

What was posted suggested a long and growing irritation, and he was correct regarding the one post which he was directly responding to, so pretty sure it will be a long road back, I agree with your advice.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2023-02-28, 11:09

ND if we count them
North Carolina
Clemson
FSU
Pitt

by **Motown Spartan** 2023-07-30, 18:21

B1G 10, along with Clemson, Oregon, and Washington…according to some online rumors.

More to come.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-07-30, 18:32

I used to enjoy chatter about expansion, I found a certain level of excitement to it. Now it just bums me out. Superconferences seem boring and lack geographical significance and ownership. CFB is changing, and I’m caring less and less. When it’s only about money and the playoffs, everything else is minimized. Even paying players got all screwed up.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2023-07-30, 18:44

tGreenWay wrote:I used to enjoy chatter about expansion, I found a certain level of excitement to it. Now it just bums me out. Superconferences seem boring and lack geographical significance and ownership. CFB is changing, and I’m caring less and less. When it’s only about money and the playoffs, everything else is minimized. Even paying players got all screwed up.

Maybe because it's still only July 30th, but I've never been less excited for college football to start, despite buying two new MSU t-shirts this week.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-07-30, 18:56

Floyd Robertson wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:I used to enjoy chatter about expansion, I found a certain level of excitement to it. Now it just bums me out. Superconferences seem boring and lack geographical significance and ownership. CFB is changing, and I’m caring less and less. When it’s only about money and the playoffs, everything else is minimized. Even paying players got all screwed up.

Maybe because it's still only July 30th, but I've never been less excited for college football to start, despite buying two new MSU t-shirts this week.

Yep, I know I’ll get excited for the good guys once things get going, but right now there’s little reason to be excited for the future of the sport. I’ve even watched a little women’s soccer. I know the US women are now making some decent money and they’re still in it for the team and the chance to be champions again.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-07-30, 19:13

I get excited once the players on the team are known, so after all the recruiting & portal transfers, meaning right about now. Liking that MSU is hyping some of the players and feeling really bummed about Snow.

by **Motown Spartan** 2023-07-30, 19:23

Trapper Gus wrote:I get excited once the players on the team are known, so after all the recruiting & portal transfers, meaning right about now. Liking that MSU is hyping some of the players and feeling really bummed about Snow.

Wait, is he not coming back?

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-07-30, 19:29

Tuck on Snow

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-07-30, 19:31

Motown Spartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I get excited once the players on the team are known, so after all the recruiting & portal transfers, meaning right about now. Liking that MSU is hyping some of the players and feeling really bummed about Snow.

Wait, is he not coming back?

Not known, however Tucker et al are not hyping him at all and making "one day at a time" noises.

He, Snow that is, posted a video of some exercises he has been doing. Hoping for the best...

My feeling, certainly not his, is that if it takes 2 years I would rather have him at 100%

by **Motown Spartan** 2023-07-30, 19:33

Trapper Gus wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

Wait, is he not coming back?

Not known, however Tucker et al are not hyping him at all and making "one day at a time" noises.

He, Snow that is, posted a video of some exercises he has been doing. Hoping for the best...

I took it more as he needs to see what he can do at full speed. No need to rush him back.

by aualum06 2023-07-30, 20:19

Mega conferences will form, divisions will be formed based on location. How will that be much different

by **tGreenWay** 2023-07-30, 21:19

Trapper Gus wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

Wait, is he not coming back?

Not known, however Tucker et al are not hyping him at all and making "one day at a time" noises.

He, Snow that is, posted a video of some exercises he has been doing. Hoping for the best...

My feeling, certainly not his, is that if it takes 2 years I would rather have him at 100%

Based on that video, I do believe he’ll be back, but I doubt he’ll ever be at 100% again. I’d be thrilled to be proven wrong, even if he doesn’t reach it until after his time at MSU is passed.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-07-31, 12:01

I am not buying this stuff, but more change is definitely coming. This just seems too big for the moment.

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by **kingstonlake** 2023-07-31, 12:41

Supposedly the last hurdle to get over is Michigan demanding the first 40 games against Clemson, FSU, Oregon, and Washington be played in Ann Arbor

by **kingstonlake** 2023-07-31, 19:44

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/thread/ok-lets-catch-up-on-all-this-realignment-talk-2264247

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