Re: Regardless of your feelings on abortion...

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-24, 14:14

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:This thread would have been more fun with Bob.

We can keep it warm for him

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2015-08-24, 14:15

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Snake Plissken wrote:
I can't speak for all religions but Catholics don't believe in birth control.
And they are free to not use it... But the rest of us should have the option to pick it up for free anywhere and everywhere.

Just like they are free to not use abortion. But ya know, someone has to act morally superior.

by **tGreenWay** 2015-08-24, 15:38

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Snake Plissken wrote:
I can't speak for all religions but Catholics don't believe in birth control.
And they are free to not use it... But the rest of us should have the option to pick it up for free anywhere and everywhere.

No, only men. Any woman who wants free birth control is a slut and a whore.

by **Rocinante** 2015-08-24, 16:07

This thread is an abortion.

by **tGreenWay** 2015-08-24, 16:49

Bump for Bob, just in case.

by **GRR Spartan** 2015-08-24, 17:01

tGreenWay wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
And they are free to not use it... But the rest of us should have the option to pick it up for free anywhere and everywhere.

No, only men. Any woman who wants free birth control is a slut and a whore.

Surrounded by sluts and whores at home? Why the anger?

by **tGreenWay** 2015-08-24, 17:22

GRR Spartan wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

No, only men. Any woman who wants free birth control is a slut and a whore.

Surrounded by sluts and whores at home? Why the anger?

Your sarcasm detector needs recalibrating.

by **GRR Spartan** 2015-08-24, 17:44

tGreenWay wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:

Surrounded by sluts and whores at home? Why the anger?

Just adding to your desire for lively conversation.

Your sarcasm detector needs recalibrating.

tGreenWay wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:

Surrounded by sluts and whores at home? Why the anger?

Your sarcasm detector needs recalibrating.

Just trying to add to your desire for lively conversation. jocolor

by **tGreenWay** 2015-08-25, 01:27

GRR Spartan wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Just adding to your desire for lively conversation.

Your sarcasm detector needs recalibrating.
tGreenWay wrote:

Your sarcasm detector needs recalibrating.

Just trying to add to your desire for lively conversation.

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by AnomanderRake 2015-08-25, 08:41

The most logical path is to encourage abortions, therefor I am pro abortion.

Saves us all money, decreases poverty, one less mouth to feed, one less broken home raised maniac.

by Guest 2015-08-25, 08:57

AnomanderRake wrote:The most logical path is to encourage abortions, therefor I am pro abortion.

Saves us all money, decreases poverty, one less mouth to feed, one less broken home raised maniac.

Using that logic we should execute roughly 1/2 the population of the US.

by AnomanderRake 2015-08-25, 09:15

LooseGoose wrote:
AnomanderRake wrote:The most logical path is to encourage abortions, therefor I am pro abortion.

Saves us all money, decreases poverty, one less mouth to feed, one less broken home raised maniac.
Using that logic we should execute roughly 1/2 the population of the US.

No it doesn't, we need them as consumers and to work all of the crappy jobs none of us want.

by **Snake Plissken** 2015-08-25, 09:28

LooseGoose wrote:
AnomanderRake wrote:The most logical path is to encourage abortions, therefor I am pro abortion.

Saves us all money, decreases poverty, one less mouth to feed, one less broken home raised maniac.
Using that logic we should execute roughly 1/2 the population of the US.

Why stop with the US?

by **tGreenWay** 2015-08-25, 10:38

Snake Plissken wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:
Using that logic we should execute roughly 1/2 the population of the US.
Why stop with the US?

Earth isn't going to wait for us to rid half the world's population. She's going to take of it for us. Do you have your preferred weapon of choice for the coming zombie apocalypse? Not that it'll matter.

by **tGreenWay** 2015-08-25, 10:38

Snake Plissken wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:
Using that logic we should execute roughly 1/2 the population of the US.
Why stop with the US?

Earth isn't going to wait for us to rid half the world's population. She's going to take care of it for us. Do you have your preferred weapon of choice for the coming zombie apocalypse? Not that it'll matter.

by Mockery 2015-08-26, 12:07

AnomanderRake wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:
Using that logic we should execute roughly 1/2 the population of the US.

No it doesn't, we need them as consumers and to work all of the crappy jobs none of us want.

I thought that is what Mexicans are for.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 09:35

Hey Bob we made this thread for you and then you left for a week. Which was kind of rude.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 09:39

LooseGoose wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
+1, like and retweet.

Also, I'm kind of drunk. It's tempting to unwrap the bow on this little gem right now, but you know what? I'm not going to. It's so much better if I just hold tight instead of peaking a day early.
I agree, there's nothing quite like the anticipation of a discussion on the morality of dismembering babies .

that would be a sweet name for a garage punk band..

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 09:40

LooseGoose wrote:Some facts for my friend BobS when he arrives:

Abortions per day in the US - 3000 Approx.
Firearms Homicides per day in the US - 31 Approx
People killed by police per day in the US - 3 Approx.

If you really want to fight to save innocent lives that should tell you where to start.
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More black babies were aborted in NY over the last number of years than were born.

2013 Born 24,758 Aborted 31,328

Couldn't find exact numbers for other years but they're similar. Why does the Democrat party support these killers of black children? Does BobS join Planned Parenthood in celebrating these milestones in "women's health"?

I'm all for the killing of black babies.. after all, one of them might be walking through your neighborhood one of these days with a pack of Skittles. Can't have that.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 09:42

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Hey Bob we made this thread for you and then you left for a week. Which was kind of rude.

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thanks man - I always enjoy seeing the right get all morally outraged about baby killing.. ya know, protecting the "sanctity of life" - while having no problem - and even celebrating - unarmed black men getting murdered by police officers. Basically confirming what we all know - their definition of "sanctity of life" depends on whose life it is.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 10:32

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Hey Bob we made this thread for you and then you left for a week. Which was kind of rude.

thanks man - I always enjoy seeing the right get all morally outraged about baby killing.. ya know, protecting the "sanctity of life" - while having no problem - and even celebrating - unarmed black men getting murdered by police officers. Basically confirming what we all know - their definition of "sanctity of life" depends on whose life it is.

Now this thread is good to go. If anyone still wants to, we can totally blow this shit up

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 10:33

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:

thanks man - I always enjoy seeing the right get all morally outraged about baby killing.. ya know, protecting the "sanctity of life" - while having no problem - and even celebrating - unarmed black men getting murdered by police officers. Basically confirming what we all know - their definition of "sanctity of life" depends on whose life it is.

Now this thread is good to go. If anyone still wants to, we can totally blow this shit up

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by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 10:40

I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.

by **The_Dude** 2015-08-31, 10:44

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.

Is birth control the only way to not get pregnant?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 10:46

The_Dude wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.

Is birth control the only way to not get pregnant?

Assuming you're fucking, it sure does help. And people are going to fuck pretty much no matter what you tell them about how icky it is. So, since we hate abortion so very much and the world isn't a perfect land where people are only fucking for procreation, it sure would help.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 10:46

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.

jesus doesn't like birth control.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 10:48

Note- when I say birth control I'm being all encompassing of all the different ways you can fuck and limit your chances of getting pregnant. Not just pills.

Edit- but, like, pills are definitely one of the things I'm talking about.

by **The_Dude** 2015-08-31, 10:51

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Is birth control the only way to not get pregnant?

Assuming you're fucking, it sure does help. And people are going to fuck pretty much no matter what you tell them about how icky it is. So, since we hate abortion so very much and the world isn't a perfect land where people are only fucking for procreation, it sure would help.

Who tells people fucking is 'icky'? It seems like we live in a pretty sexualized culture.

Also, how hard is it for someone to get birth control? It seems like it's super easy. Get health insurance, get birth control?

I guess I dont really follow these issues that have pretty much zero impact on my life that closely. But Im all for abortions--in fact, we need more abortions specifically in the minority communities if you look at the hard data.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 10:53

it really seems like jesus would enjoy birth control and sex since, most of the time, his name gets screamed out at least once or twice during the act..

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 10:57

The_Dude wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Assuming you're fucking, it sure does help. And people are going to fuck pretty much no matter what you tell them about how icky it is. So, since we hate abortion so very much and the world isn't a perfect land where people are only fucking for procreation, it sure would help.

Who tells people fucking is 'icky'? It seems like we live in a pretty sexualized culture.

Also, how hard is it for someone to get birth control? It seems like it's super easy. Get health insurance, get birth control?

I guess I dont really follow these issues that have pretty much zero impact on my life that closely. But Im all for abortions--in fact, we need more abortions specifically in the minority communities if you look at the hard data.

Well, you're goal isn't to eliminate abortion. So, what were talking about is pretty much irrelevant to you and you would just be worried about the cost. If you wanted to save the babies then this is a more viable option.

As far as how hard it is to get- go meet some young women. Talk to them. It isn't as easy for everyone as you think it is. As indicated by the 3000 abortions per day stat that goose likes to bring up.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 11:00

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Who tells people fucking is 'icky'? It seems like we live in a pretty sexualized culture.

Also, how hard is it for someone to get birth control? It seems like it's super easy. Get health insurance, get birth control?

I guess I dont really follow these issues that have pretty much zero impact on my life that closely. But Im all for abortions--in fact, we need more abortions specifically in the minority communities if you look at the hard data.

Well, you're goal isn't to eliminate abortion. So, what were talking about is pretty much irrelevant to you and you would just be worried about the cost. If you wanted to save the babies then this is a more viable option.

As far as how hard it is to get- go meet some young women. Talk to them. It isn't as easy for everyone as you think it is. As indicated by the 3000 abortions per day stat that goose likes to bring up.

just think - those are 3,000 people - every day - that we could use to build a wall to separate us from brown people.

by **The_Dude** 2015-08-31, 11:02

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Who tells people fucking is 'icky'? It seems like we live in a pretty sexualized culture.

Also, how hard is it for someone to get birth control? It seems like it's super easy. Get health insurance, get birth control?

I guess I dont really follow these issues that have pretty much zero impact on my life that closely. But Im all for abortions--in fact, we need more abortions specifically in the minority communities if you look at the hard data.

Well, you're goal isn't to eliminate abortion. So, what were talking about is pretty much irrelevant to you and you would just be worried about the cost. If you wanted to save the babies then this is a more viable option.

As far as how hard it is to get- go meet some young women. Talk to them. It isn't as easy for everyone as you think it is. As indicated by the 3000 abortions per day stat that goose likes to bring up.

I thought Obamacare made it mandatory to cover birth control? And if you're poor, isn't it easy to sign up for subsidized healthcare?

I know the problem with a lot of people is that help is out there for them, they just don't show any initiative to seek it.

But like I said, Im not particularly up to speed with womens health issues. Let them do what they want imo, keep me out of it. I don't want to restrict anyone's rights'.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 11:05

The_Dude wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Well, you're goal isn't to eliminate abortion. So, what were talking about is pretty much irrelevant to you and you would just be worried about the cost. If you wanted to save the babies then this is a more viable option.

As far as how hard it is to get- go meet some young women. Talk to them. It isn't as easy for everyone as you think it is. As indicated by the 3000 abortions per day stat that goose likes to bring up.

I thought Obamacare made it mandatory to cover birth control? And if you're poor, isn't it easy to sign up for subsidized healthcare?

I know the problem with a lot of people is that help is out there for them, they just don't show any initiative to seek it.

But like I said, Im not particularly up to speed with womens health issues. Let them do what they want imo, keep me out of it. I don't want to restrict anyone's rights'.

I'm not a fan of abortion.. so I decided not to have one. Sorta like gay marriage - just because the conservative SCOTUS said it was legal doesn't mean it's mandatory.

So I'm not gonna do that, either.

by **The_Dude** 2015-08-31, 11:06

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

I thought Obamacare made it mandatory to cover birth control? And if you're poor, isn't it easy to sign up for subsidized healthcare?

I know the problem with a lot of people is that help is out there for them, they just don't show any initiative to seek it.

But like I said, Im not particularly up to speed with womens health issues. Let them do what they want imo, keep me out of it. I don't want to restrict anyone's rights'.
I'm not a fan of abortion.. so I decided not to have one. Sorta like gay marriage - just because the conservative SCOTUS said it was legal doesn't mean it's mandatory.

So I'm not gonna do that, either.

Isn't it great to live in a free country? cheers

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 11:08

The_Dude wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Well, you're goal isn't to eliminate abortion. So, what were talking about is pretty much irrelevant to you and you would just be worried about the cost. If you wanted to save the babies then this is a more viable option.

As far as how hard it is to get- go meet some young women. Talk to them. It isn't as easy for everyone as you think it is. As indicated by the 3000 abortions per day stat that goose likes to bring up.

I thought Obamacare made it mandatory to cover birth control? And if you're poor, isn't it easy to sign up for subsidized healthcare?

I know the problem with a lot of people is that help is out there for them, they just don't show any initiative to seek it.

But like I said, Im not particularly up to speed with womens health issues. Let them do what they want imo, keep me out of it. I don't want to restrict anyone's rights'.

Even with health insurance it can still be too expensive for some people. It's not just poor people, it's people that have insurance through whatever company they work for, but they don't make a ton extra after all the bills and that.

You know what would make it no problem at all? If it was free. $0 after insurance or what have you. Just don't make people pay for it and abortions won't happen as much. Which, again, isn't a concern of yours so that won't appeal to you.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-08-31, 11:18

The_Dude wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm not a fan of abortion.. so I decided not to have one. Sorta like gay marriage - just because the conservative SCOTUS said it was legal doesn't mean it's mandatory.

So I'm not gonna do that, either.

Isn't it great to live in a free country?

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I mean, next thing you know, you're gonna have fellow "Spartans" telling you what you can and can't say in a message board.

by **The_Dude** 2015-08-31, 11:22

Yeah I always laugh at the people that talk about taxpayer money going to birth control to get it to people that need it...because what's the cost for a single mother to raise a kid on welfare?

I bet it's more than what birth control costs to the taxpayer.

by Guest 2015-08-31, 11:22

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.

Crazy thing is that when R's wanted to make birth control available non prescription and over the counter - thus cheap and readily available the D's opposed that. Must have been they were afraid of losing one of their wedge issues.

So grab on to something....but your position here is the Republican position.

by **InTenSity** 2015-08-31, 11:24

LooseGoose wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.
Crazy thing is that when R's wanted to make birth control available non prescription and over the counter - thus cheap and readily available the D's opposed that. Must have been they were afraid of losing one of their wedge issues.

So grab on to something....but your position here is the Republican position.

When did they want to do that? That's pretty interesting. I'd think it would have more to do with insurance companies being in the ear of the Dems than the abortion issue, but maybe the two worked hand in hand. Pharmaceutical in Rep ears and Insurance in Dem.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2015-08-31, 11:36

LooseGoose wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'd still like to know why we can't give out birth control on every single street corner in the entire country. If I'm understanding female physiology correctly, the trigger point to getting an abortion seems to be getting pregnant. Maybe if we helped people (women mostly) not get pregnant when they don't want to be there wouldn't be nearly as many abortions. Crazy thought, but I think I'm on to something.
Crazy thing is that when R's wanted to make birth control available non prescription and over the counter - thus cheap and readily available the D's opposed that. Must have been they were afraid of losing one of their wedge issues.

So grab on to something....but your position here is the Republican position.

I'm not as concerned with democrat and republican as you are. Believe it or not, don't care. I'm not a political party and neither represents me.

That said, over the counter is not free, so my position. Isn't really the republican position at all. (And wouldn't it mean that no one's insurance would cover it? Wouldn't that probably make it more expensive, not less?)

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