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Post by Heat Miser 2016-03-08, 10:35

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Post by Guest 2016-03-08, 10:38

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Seriously though, a 50 percent tax on income over 75,000.  He can suck my nuts.

Where do you even get that number??

Here's an analysis of his tax plan.  It's not a 100% glowing review, but it actually fucking works.  And there's no tax bracket higher than 46.5% and that is for the top 0.1% which equals about 100 people nationwide. Stop being a lying pussy.

http://taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/2000639-an-analysis-of-senator-bernie-sanderss-tax-proposals.pdf

I may have been lying.  But you are a liar!!! #CUCKED

Sanders argues that most people’s average income tax rate won’t change, but this is only true if you exclude the two major taxes meant to pay for his health care program: a 2.2 percent “premium” tax and 6.2 percent payroll tax, imposed on incomes across the board. These taxes account for majority of the new revenue Sanders is counting on.

But it gets worse: his single-payer health care plan will cost 80 percent more than he claims. Analysis by the left-leaning scholar Kenneth Thorpe (who supports single payer) concludes that Sanders’ proposal will cost $1.1 trillion more each year than he claims. The trillion dollar discrepancy results from some questionable assumptions in Sanders’ numbers. For instance:

Sanders assumes $324 billion more per year in prescription drug savings than Thorpe does. Thorpe argues that this is wildly implausible.
“In 2014 private health plans paid a TOTAL of $132 billion on prescription drugs and nationally we spent $305 billion,” he writes in an email. “With their savings drug spending nationally would be negative.”
So unless pharmaceutical companies start paying you to take their drugs, the Sanders administration will need to increase taxes even more.

Analysis by the Tax Foundation finds that his proposed tax hikes already total $13.6 trillion over the next ten years. However, “the plan would [only] end up collecting $9.8 trillion over the next decade when accounting for decreased economic output.”

And the consequences will be truly devastating. Because of the taxes on labor and capital, GDP will be reduced 9.5 percent. Six million jobs will be lost. On average, after-tax incomes will be reduced by more than 18 percent.

Incomes for the bottom 50 percent will be reduced by more than 14 percent, and incomes for the top 1 percent will be reduced nearly 25 percent. Inequality warriors might cheer, but if you want to actually raise revenue, crushing the incomes of the people who pay almost 40 percent of all taxes isn’t the way to go.

These are just the effects of the $1 trillion tax hike he has planned — and he probably needs to double that to pay for single payer. Where will he find it? He’ll go where European welfare states go.
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Mississippi's first black mayor endorses Trump.  He states on tv, why should I be a democrat? What have they done for us?  OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!! - Page 24 1494614055  OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!! - Page 24 1966794946  OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!! - Page 24 328670334  #YUGEEEDAYTODAY

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SpartanDawgs265 wrote:Mississippi's first black mayor endorses Trump.  He states on tv, why should I be a democrat? What have they done for us?  OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!! - Page 24 1494614055  OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!! - Page 24 1966794946  OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!! - Page 24 328670334  #YUGEEEDAYTODAY


Democrats must have done a lot for Trump. He wrote them a lot of checks.
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Post by Rocinante 2016-03-08, 11:38

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Where do you even get that number??

Here's an analysis of his tax plan.  It's not a 100% glowing review, but it actually fucking works.  And there's no tax bracket higher than 46.5% and that is for the top 0.1% which equals about 100 people nationwide. Stop being a lying pussy.

http://taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/2000639-an-analysis-of-senator-bernie-sanderss-tax-proposals.pdf

I may have been lying.  But you are a liar!!! #CUCKED

Sanders argues that most people’s average income tax rate won’t change, but this is only true if you exclude the two major taxes meant to pay for his health care program: a 2.2 percent “premium” tax and 6.2 percent payroll tax, imposed on incomes across the board. These taxes account for majority of the new revenue Sanders is counting on.

But it gets worse: his single-payer health care plan will cost 80 percent more than he claims. Analysis by the left-leaning scholar Kenneth Thorpe (who supports single payer) concludes that Sanders’ proposal will cost $1.1 trillion more each year than he claims. The trillion dollar discrepancy results from some questionable assumptions in Sanders’ numbers. For instance:

Sanders assumes $324 billion more per year in prescription drug savings than Thorpe does. Thorpe argues that this is wildly implausible.
“In 2014 private health plans paid a TOTAL of $132 billion on prescription drugs and nationally we spent $305 billion,” he writes in an email. “With their savings drug spending nationally would be negative.”
So unless pharmaceutical companies start paying you to take their drugs, the Sanders administration will need to increase taxes even more.

Analysis by the Tax Foundation finds that his proposed tax hikes already total $13.6 trillion over the next ten years. However, “the plan would [only] end up collecting $9.8 trillion over the next decade when accounting for decreased economic output.”

And the consequences will be truly devastating. Because of the taxes on labor and capital, GDP will be reduced 9.5 percent. Six million jobs will be lost. On average, after-tax incomes will be reduced by more than 18 percent.

Incomes for the bottom 50 percent will be reduced by more than 14 percent, and incomes for the top 1 percent will be reduced nearly 25 percent. Inequality warriors might cheer, but if you want to actually raise revenue, crushing the incomes of the people who pay almost 40 percent of all taxes isn’t the way to go.

These are just the effects of the $1 trillion tax hike he has planned — and he probably needs to double that to pay for single payer. Where will he find it? He’ll go where European welfare states go.

Could you please source your plagiarism? Thanks.

http://fee.org/articles/why-bernie-sanders-has-to-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class/
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Post by Guest 2016-03-08, 12:43

For any of you wavering on Cruz this should clinch it:

Chuck Norris Hits The Campaign Trail For Ted Cruz

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LooseGoose wrote:For any of you wavering on Cruz this should clinch it:

Chuck Norris Hits The Campaign Trail For Ted Cruz


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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-03-08, 14:27

Although not scientific I thought this MSN poll was interesting in that 25% of responses want Trump to be the next to drop out of the race.  Obviously not going to happen, but it might speak to the growing Trump backlash when only 9% of responses want Cruz out.


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Post by Guest 2016-03-08, 15:03

I KNEW that guy was a fucking liar.....no wonder SD identifies with him.

How a $300 tax deduction proves Donald Trump makes less than half a million dollars

One of the enduring mysteries of Donald Trump is just how much wealth he has. Forbes pegs his net worth at $4.5 billion, while Bloomberg News puts it at $2.9 billion. The GOP front-runner himself has said he's "really rich."

Maybe, but Trump's income is low enough to qualify for a New York state property-tax break that most high-rollers don't get.

It's called the STAR program, which stands for the New York State School Tax Relief Program and has been around since 1997. It offers an approximately $300 annual benefit for those who qualify. Hundreds of thousands of New York homeowners get it.

Here's where it gets interesting for Trump: To be eligible for STAR, a married couple must have annual income of $500,000 or less. One wouldn't think a guy as rich as Trump claims to be would qualify, but records filed with the city's Department of Finance show he received a $302 STAR benefit on his latest property-tax bill for his Trump Tower penthouse on Fifth Avenue.

That means whatever his annual income is, it's less than $500,000. (The state defines income for STAR purposes as federal adjusted gross income minus the taxable amount of total distributions from annuities or individual retirement accounts.) And Trump would have to have declared his New York apartment as his permanent residence and sent the state a copy of his federal income-tax return in order to qualify for the $302 tax break.

"It's strange that a billionaire would apply for a $302 tax benefit and, moreover, that he would take it," said Martha Stark, a property-tax expert and former New York City finance commissioner who is now a lecturer at Baruch College. A Trump spokeswoman had no immediate comment. By the way, the city finance department checks with New York state tax authorities every year to make sure applicants for the STAR benefit have income under $500,000.
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Post by Giant Moose 2016-03-08, 15:08

It strikes that person odd that someone would want to save $300? Billionaire or not, $300 is still $300.
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Post by InTenSity 2016-03-08, 15:35

Giant Moose wrote:It strikes that person odd that someone would want to save $300? Billionaire or not, $300 is still $300.
This is what is wrong with the US. $300 to a billionaire is not the same as $300 to a family of 4 making $50,000 a year. That is just greed by the billionaire, he doesn't need a $300 tax break.
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Post by xsanguine 2016-03-08, 15:36

Giant Moose wrote:It strikes that person odd that someone would want to save $300? Billionaire or not, $300 is still $300.

I've always been told that's part of the reason rich people get and stay rich. They don't leave any money, no matter how small, on the table.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-03-08, 15:39

LooseGoose wrote:The ceiling is real. More candidates exit and the Donald's polling tally remains the same or drops.

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That graph makes Cruz out to be yella? Are you callin Cruz yella?
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-03-08, 15:42

Heat Miser wrote:Sieg Heil

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-03-08, 15:45

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Heat Miser wrote:Sieg Heil

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I wish you'd gotten a picture of their jackboots.

Seriously, this is something out of Veep. Am I the only one who has watched this show? I'll watch an episode or two when nothing else is on.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-03-08, 15:48

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
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I wish you'd gotten a picture of their jackboots.

Seriously, this is something out of Veep. Am I the only one who has watched this show? I'll watch an episode or two when nothing else is on.

I just can't get into the show, and I've had a major hard-on for JLD for 20+ years.
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Post by Guest 2016-03-08, 16:03

ABC/WaPo national poll: Trump’s lead declines, Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich all gain

Dip into the crosstabs and you’ll find that, among non-Trump and non-Cruz voters, Cruz wins … 72/17. In other words, if the field clears, virtually all of Rubio’s and Kasich’s support goes to Cruz over Trump. No wonder Cruz suddenly seems keen to finish off Rubio in Florida by starving him of conservative votes there; if these numbers are right, Cruz could beat Trump the rest of the way even if Trump has Florida in his back pocket.

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LooseGoose wrote:ABC/WaPo national poll: Trump’s lead declines, Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich all gain

Dip into the crosstabs and you’ll find that, among non-Trump and non-Cruz voters, Cruz wins … 72/17. In other words, if the field clears, virtually all of Rubio’s and Kasich’s support goes to Cruz over Trump. No wonder Cruz suddenly seems keen to finish off Rubio in Florida by starving him of conservative votes there; if these numbers are right, Cruz could beat Trump the rest of the way even if Trump has Florida in his back pocket.


You are so desperate to see Trump lose. The pundits are driving every ones thinking on this board, start thinking for yourself! Don't let the special interests lie to you who is actually winning and who is going to win. No more second place victory speeches LOL #TrumpTrain #NOBRAKESIREPEATNOBRAKES #HOPON
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LooseGoose wrote:ABC/WaPo national poll: Trump’s lead declines, Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich all gain




You are so desperate to see Trump lose. The pundits are driving every ones thinking on this board, start thinking for yourself! Don't let the special interests lie to you who is actually winning and who is going to win. No more second place victory speeches LOL #TrumpTrain #NOBRAKESIREPEATNOBRAKES #HOPON

Face it, your boy is a broke loser. The truth has caught up with his huckster BS.
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You are so desperate to see Trump lose. The pundits are driving every ones thinking on this board, start thinking for yourself! Don't let the special interests lie to you who is actually winning and who is going to win. No more second place victory speeches LOL #TrumpTrain #NOBRAKESIREPEATNOBRAKES #HOPON

Face it, your boy is a broke loser.  The truth has caught up with his huckster BS.

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Stop posting the WSJ polls. They are an embarrassment to political science and have been wrong every time by a huge margin. Nobody cares about them and they have been proven to be biased.  They have had Cruz winning states he has been demolished in and have had him up nationally on Trump for months.  Total failing paper. Sad!
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Post by NigelUno 2016-03-08, 18:01

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Giant Moose wrote:It strikes that person odd that someone would want to save $300? Billionaire or not, $300 is still $300.

I've always been told that's part of the reason rich people get and stay rich. They don't leave any money, no matter how small, on the table.

In a related note, that's Giant Moose's philosophy on tipping.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-03-08, 18:13

xsanguine wrote:
Giant Moose wrote:It strikes that person odd that someone would want to save $300? Billionaire or not, $300 is still $300.

I've always been told that's part of the reason rich people get and stay rich. They don't leave any money, no matter how small, on the table.

This. Because over the course of decades, it ALL adds up.
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I've always been told that's part of the reason rich people get and stay rich. They don't leave any money, no matter how small, on the table.

This.  Because over the course of decades, it ALL adds up.

$300?  I'm sure Trump could make up for it on profit margins by producing goods in Mexico, China, and Holland.  

My guess is he's fudging a bit on his taxes.  But, I'm sure you don't see it that way.
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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Still undecided. Kasich is growing on me, but I really don't like Hillary. A Bernie vote might have to happen instead. Sway my opinion Swillers!

I just voted for Bernie. They put a big huge D on my ballot so I think i'm officially a Democrat now.
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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Still undecided. Kasich is growing on me, but I really don't like Hillary. A Bernie vote might have to happen instead. Sway my opinion Swillers!

I just voted for Bernie. They put a big huge D on my ballot so I think i'm officially a Democrat now.

Sad!
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Jake from State Farm wrote:

I just voted for Bernie. They put a big huge D on my ballot so I think i'm officially a Democrat now.



Sad!

eh, not really. Both parties have been effing everyone in this country for years. I used to be republican until they lost their minds and started to be the party of "who can make the biggest campaign contribution to me, that's how I'll vote on the issues that most affect this country".
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-03-08, 20:25

I heard Trump is doing well in Kalkaska County.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2016-03-08, 20:27

Turtleneck wrote:I heard Trump is doing well in Kalkaska County.

He's probably doing pretty good in Allegan County too.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-03-08, 20:31

If he gets the Alcona County vote, it's lights out for Ted Cruz.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-03-08, 20:34

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Sad!

eh, not really. Both parties have been effing everyone in this country for years. I used to be republican until they lost their minds and started to be the party of "who can make the biggest campaign contribution to me, that's how I'll vote on the issues that most affect this country".

And Hilary and Obama and Democrats don't take money?

You just said the parties are the same, then rip Rs for doing exactly what Ds do. lol

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