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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 11:58 am

I actually like his approach to saving some taxpayer dollars...

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!


4 billion?!?! Wow - good for Trump.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 12:00 pm

oh, wait. Boeing issued a statement:

In a statement, Boeing said: "We are currently under contract for $170 million to help determine the capabilities of these complex military aircraft that serves the unique requirements of the President of the United States. We look forward to working with the US Air Force on subsequent phases of the program allowing us to deliver the best planes for the President at the best value for the American taxpayer."
 4 billion... 170 million.. what's the difference.  

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Post by NigelUno 06/12/16, 12:20 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I actually like his approach to saving some taxpayer dollars...

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!


4 billion?!?! Wow - good for Trump.


He can just fly his own plane and bill us.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 12:24 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I actually like his approach to saving some taxpayer dollars...

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!


4 billion?!?! Wow - good for Trump.


He can just fly his own plane and bill us.
the irony of Trump living off of taxpayer dollars while never paying taxes is totally lost on the knuckle-draggers.. don't ya think?
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Post by NigelUno 06/12/16, 12:35 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

He can just fly his own plane and bill us.
the irony of Trump living off of taxpayer dollars while never paying taxes is totally lost on the knuckle-draggers.. don't ya think?

Goose is putting together a "King" Trump thread as we speak. Give him time.
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Post by GRR Spartan 06/12/16, 12:47 pm

Unless something has changed Trump's tweet changes nothing.

There are about 45 more days before he's sworn in. He flying to locales that helped him win on his victory tour and the US government is reimbursing a Trump company that owns the jet he's taking around the country.
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Post by Triple Sparty 06/12/16, 12:51 pm

Doesn't sound like $170 million is to build the plane but more consulting/design.
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Post by Guest 06/12/16, 12:56 pm

Triple Sparty wrote:Doesn't sound like $170 million is to build the plane but more consulting/design.

And then either 1.7Billion or just over 3Billion.....so Bob is distorting again. What's new?

From January:
Boeing wins contract to build new Air Force One presidential jets
Details about the total value of the new contract have not been released, but the Air Force has previously said that it had earmarked $1.65 billion for two replacement jets.

Current article:
Trump picks a fight over Air Force One

“It’s going to be over $4 billion for Air Force One program and I think it’s ridiculous. I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number. We want Boeing to make a lot of money, but not that much money," the president-elect said.

Other estimates have put the contract number closer to $3 billion.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 01:34 pm

solid mainstream media articles, Goose. Thanks.


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Post by The_Dude 06/12/16, 01:36 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:solid mainstream media articles, Goose. Thanks.



what isnt mainstream media according to you? j/w
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 01:41 pm

The_Dude wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:solid mainstream media articles, Goose. Thanks.



what isnt mainstream media according to you? j/w
it's all either mainstream media or fake news. Often they're both the same - just look at how Trump got elected.

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Post by Guest 06/12/16, 02:04 pm

What a shocker - Bob posted BullShit and Trump was right.

Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey 5m5 minutes ago
Update: NBC confirms $4B price tag for AF1 contract.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 02:07 pm

LooseGoose wrote:What a shocker - Bob posted BullShit and Trump was right.

Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey 5m5 minutes ago
Update: NBC confirms $4B price tag for AF1 contract.
depends on if you believe NBC news or not.

clearly you do.

and that's okay.

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Post by GRR Spartan 06/12/16, 02:19 pm

The Air Force One(s) are state of the art military planes that are not built very often. There have been only 3-4 models of 707's then 747''s and each are in service for 25-30 years.
They have every bell and whistle to ensure communications, evasion from air or ground based attack and we should expect additional stealth technology built into the new versions. Chances are Trump will never fly in the planes being discussed anyway.
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Post by steveschneider 06/12/16, 02:30 pm

"An Air Force official, not authorized to speak publicly about the program, said that the current plane will be 30 years old next year, and the new ones aren’t slated to come online until the mid-2020s. By then the technology aboard the current plane will be dated and it will become increasingly hard to maintain it. Any delays to replace it could cause significant problems, the official said."

From Washington Post Article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/12/06/citing-cost-overruns-trump-says-boeings-contract-to-build-air-force-one-should-be-canceled/?utm_term=.e90b314a3516
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Post by steveschneider 06/12/16, 02:34 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Triple Sparty wrote:Doesn't sound like $170 million is to build the plane but more consulting/design.

And then either 1.7Billion or just over 3Billion.....so Bob is distorting again. What's new?

From January:
Boeing wins contract to build new Air Force One presidential jets
Details about the total value of the new contract have not been released, but the Air Force has previously said that it had earmarked $1.65 billion for two replacement jets.

Current article:
Trump picks a fight over Air Force One

“It’s going to be over $4 billion for Air Force One program and I think it’s ridiculous. I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number. We want Boeing to make a lot of money, but not that much money," the president-elect said.

Other estimates have put the contract number closer to $3 billion.

I clicked +1. Good use of credible news sources.

Costs I saw were around 3.2 billion Trump tweeted 4 billion.

Let's not let him completely off the hook
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Post by Guest 06/12/16, 02:51 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:What a shocker - Bob posted BullShit and Trump was right.

Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey 5m5 minutes ago
Update: NBC confirms $4B price tag for AF1 contract.
depends on if you believe NBC news or not.

clearly you do.

and that's okay.


Let's see - anonymous troll message board poster that hates Trump vs National News organization that hates Trump.

I'll go with choice #2.
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Post by GRR Spartan 06/12/16, 02:57 pm

New rules

It's okay to infer President Obama is acting like an unelected king but nobody is allowed to question any numbers our President elect and relentless Tweeter includes in his missives.
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Post by NigelUno 06/12/16, 03:55 pm

http://www.ajc.com/business/gwinnett-firm-air-force-one-project-lost-jet-wash-trump-tweet/PRJvhcpxXq3lMHaVnmqM0M/

Uh oh.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/12/16, 03:59 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:depends on if you believe NBC news or not.

clearly you do.

and that's okay.


Let's see - anonymous troll message board poster that hates Trump vs National News organization that hates Trump.

I'll go with choice #2.
you do as you wish..

oh - here's the thread you started: Never Any Media Bias - Well Maybe Just a Little. All The Time.

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Post by steveschneider 06/12/16, 05:18 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/06/the-inaccuracies-in-donald-trumps-air-force-one-tweet/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.834dceba5ab0

Washington Post checks accuracy on Trump's tweet. Some experts have confirmed the 4 Billion estimate is reasonable. Interesting the Boeing doesn't make any money off the deal, they do it for the prestige.

One thing of note, he's screwing over his successor if he actually cancels the order. Great guy!
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Post by Guest 06/12/16, 05:44 pm

steveschneider wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/06/the-inaccuracies-in-donald-trumps-air-force-one-tweet/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.834dceba5ab0

Washington Post checks accuracy on Trump's tweet. Some experts have confirmed the 4 Billion estimate is reasonable. Interesting the Boeing doesn't make any money off the deal, they do it for the prestige.

One thing of note, he's screwing over his successor if he actually cancels the order. Great guy!

Don't tell Bob, he's still arguing he's right at 170M. But then again he has a blind spot when it comes to Trump.
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Post by NigelUno 06/12/16, 05:49 pm

Would canceling a $4 billion order be good for American jobs?

Asking for a friend.
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Post by Guest 06/12/16, 07:46 pm

NigelUno wrote:Would canceling a $4 billion order be good for American jobs?

Asking for a friend.

Yes when the company has a backlog that stretches years.
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Post by Triple Sparty 06/12/16, 07:54 pm

Your friend works at Boeing? He or she would probably know better than anyone here.
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Post by NigelUno 07/12/16, 07:25 am

LooseGoose wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Would canceling a $4 billion order be good for American jobs?

Asking for a friend.

Yes when the company has a backlog that stretches years.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 07/12/16, 07:50 am

LooseGoose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/06/the-inaccuracies-in-donald-trumps-air-force-one-tweet/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.834dceba5ab0

Washington Post checks accuracy on Trump's tweet. Some experts have confirmed the 4 Billion estimate is reasonable. Interesting the Boeing doesn't make any money off the deal, they do it for the prestige.

One thing of note, he's screwing over his successor if he actually cancels the order. Great guy!

Don't tell Bob, he's still arguing he's right at 170M. But then again he has a blind spot when it comes to Trump.
I simply don't trust the mainstream media to the degree that you do.

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Post by Guest 21/12/16, 09:51 pm

After meeting with Trump, Boeing CEO says Air Force One will get done for less

Donald Trump’s methods may be unorthodox but he seems to be getting some results.

Today Dennis Muilenburg, the CEO of Boeing, had a meeting with Trump at the President-elect’s Florida resort. Afterwards, Muilenburg came out and said he had given Trump his personal promise that the Air Force One project would be done for less.

“Very productive and really encouraged by the dialogue,” Muilenburg said as he stepped outside. “We’re all focused on the same thing here,” he added, “We want to make sure we give our war fighters the best capability in the world and that we do it in a way that’s affordable for our taxpayers.” Muilenburg then praised Trump saying, “His business headset around that is excellent…Got a lot of respect for him. He’s a good man and he’s doing the right thing.”

Asked if Air Force One had come up, Muilenburg replied, “We did talk about Air Force One and again the same focus here on making sure we get best capability, make sure the president is secure and that we protect national security and that we do it affordably.”

When a reporter asked if Muilenburg would dispute Trump’s $4 billion estimate on the price of the Air Force One program, he replied, “We’re going to get it done for less than that and we’re committed to working together to make sure that happens.

“I was able to give the President-elect my personal commitment on behalf of the Boeing company. This is a business that’s important to us. We work on Air Force One because it’s important to our country and we’re going to make sure that he gets the best capability and that it’s done affordably.”
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