Re: 2019 Detroit Tigers Thread

by aualum06 Wed 16 Oct 2019 - 16:05

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My ratings tanked since dish and fox sports Detroit almost three months later can't come to an agreement on anything

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed 10 Jun 2020 - 16:17

I’m going to be so mad if the tigers don’t take the tork man who I just learned exists last week

MLB draft tonight- Please discuss to the extent that you have any ability to discuss the mlb draft

by aualum06 Wed 10 Jun 2020 - 19:44

Tank for Tork a success

by **kingstonlake** Wed 10 Jun 2020 - 21:01

Who’s this tick tock guy?

by **DWags** Wed 10 Jun 2020 - 21:30

aualum06 wrote:Tank for Tork a success

I know you follow this stuff. How have most #1 picks faired in baseball? I hear the tigers are already talking third base for him. But was wondering how #1 picks usualy pan out.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 6:33

This should help as a pretty good start on your question dwags- but I guess the answer is “pretty good but not always”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first_overall_Major_League_Baseball_draft_picks

by aualum06 Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 10:30

DWags wrote:
aualum06 wrote:Tank for Tork a success

I know you follow this stuff. How have most #1 picks faired in baseball? I hear the tigers are already talking third base for him. But was wondering how #1 picks usualy pan out.

Baseball draft is a total mess of flameouts usually. I don't care as much about his position as others because we need someone that can actually hit.

by Heathens '87 Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 10:52

aualum06 wrote:Baseball draft is a total mess of flameouts usually. I don't care as much about his position as others because we need someone that can actually hit.

Agreed. Paying attention to the baseball draft is a rather pointless exercise. Player development is hard to track as it's all relative to the competition. I pay attention to Double-A Erie. If you can play against that level of competition, there is some predictability for ability at the MLB level. Torkelson looks to have the tools needed for success. But go back to 1997 when the Tigers had the first pick. Matt Anderson out of Rice. Got rushed to the majors, became something of a 4-A player, and it was a period in Tigers history of top-level picks that never really materialized. Greg Gohr, Eric Munson, Drumright, Griesinger, etc. The organization wasn't patient with development. I'm reluctant to praise Avila, but he's not rushing the process. Whether it pays off, who the heck knows.....

by **Heat Miser** Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 11:16

55 years of Tigers 1st round ineptitude:

List of Detroit Tigers first-round draft picks

Parrish, Gibson, Verlander & whole lot of mediocre to bust.

Might make the Lions blush a little.

by **tGreenWay** Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 11:57

How does a guy with the last name of Torkelson ever become a superstar?

by Heathens '87 Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 12:33

Heat Miser wrote:55 years of Tigers 1st round ineptitude:

List of Detroit Tigers first-round draft picks

Parrish, Gibson, Verlander & whole lot of mediocre to bust.

Might make the Lions blush a little.

College football gives a much better prediction for NFL readiness compared to anything baseball could replicate. Of the major sports, baseball is so much more a crap shoot. All the numbers in the world don't mean as much as good scouting. And that's been a historic weakness in the Tigers organization.

1976 seemed to be an oddity for Detroit though. Trammell in the 2nd round; Morris in the 5th; Ozzie Smith in the 7th (didn't sign, but he was a Tigers draft pick). Someone in the front office had a damn good year picking three Hall of Famers in one draft...

by **Heat Miser** Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 12:56

Heathens '87 wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:55 years of Tigers 1st round ineptitude:

List of Detroit Tigers first-round draft picks

Parrish, Gibson, Verlander & whole lot of mediocre to bust.

Might make the Lions blush a little.

College football gives a much better prediction for NFL readiness compared to anything baseball could replicate. Of the major sports, baseball is so much more a crap shoot. All the numbers in the world don't mean as much as good scouting. And that's been a historic weakness in the Tigers organization.

1976 seemed to be an oddity for Detroit though. Trammell in the 2nd round; Morris in the 5th; Ozzie Smith in the 7th (didn't sign, but he was a Tigers draft pick). Someone in the front office had a damn good year picking three Hall of Famers in one draft...

That's why the Lions would only blush a little. Still, most crapshooters could do better than 3 for 53 (.056).

by Heathens '87 Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 13:38

Heat Miser wrote:

That's why the Lions would only blush a little. Still, most crapshooters could do better than 3 for 53 (.056).

The Lions are oddly impressive as you'd think a "even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time-to-time" approach would result in some accidental run to a Super Bowl. It's a special kind of incompetence.....

by **The Pantry** Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 20:07

Heathens '87 wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

That's why the Lions would only blush a little. Still, most crapshooters could do better than 3 for 53 (.056).

The Lions are oddly impressive as you'd think a "even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time-to-time" approach would result in some accidental run to a Super Bowl. It's a special kind of incompetence.....

60 years of fucking up is hard to top.

by MattyFresh Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 20:46

tGreenWay wrote:How does a guy with the last name of Torkelson ever become a superstar?

Easy, nickname is Tork, Detroit Muscle baby!

by aualum06 Thu 11 Jun 2020 - 22:02

On paper. Home run for the tigs

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