Re: The civil unrest thread

[steveschneider]

He has literally the exact same basis for his claims as you do, brah.

No, I have a LOT more basis

A) It has been one of the lynch pins of Russian intelligence operations to sow divisions among adversaries. They have a whole course on it in their training, with intense instruction on psychology and manipulation techniques. In the 60s they wrote letters to media, claiming to be KKK members, inciting racial tensions. They also sent bombs to black leaders. They also played the other side, teaming with militant black groups and supporting/inciting tensions on that side. This has all been well documented.

B) One of pantry's boys, Senator Marco Rubio, Republican, and Chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee, said that at least three foreign adversaries were stoking things on social media. He also said that both left wing and right wing groups are being incited by them(though the widespread indications from everyone except Trump is that it is predominantly right wing). Still, give Rubio a bit of credit for explicitly saying that right wing groups are at least part of the problem. Want more from Rubio talking specifically about Russia? A week ago, but before all this blew up too much, he said, that Russia's efforts to tap into the divisions in this country is like lighting a match and that their efforts have "succeeded beyond Putin's wildest dreams."


There, I've provided specific historical precedent and general 100 years of a country's M.O., combined with claims from one of your side's biggest "stars". What do you got, Pantry?

Pawn to c8 promoted to queen check mate.

[NigelUno]

Are you enjoying that Trump insisted that Churches be open, but didn't actually go to Church?  

And is instead just waving a Bible in front of one?  After tear gassing all the Republican protesters you were talking about..... 

Wonder if he could find that one Commandment about Adultery...

Too bad pedophylic tendencies were beyond even God's comprehension at the time or there would have been an 11th commandment.

I kinda noticed you seemed to deflect a bit with your response.

Would your new 11th Commandment apply to Trump as well?  

Or did he wave a Bible around enough that you're only concerned with judging others?

[Floyd Robertson]

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[Robert J Sakimano]

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I'd say "yes.. every day"...

though a serial sexual predator who mocks disabled people, pays hush money to porn stars, rapes little girls and threatens to kill Americans using it as a photo op is unique, though not shocking.

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Trump on his way to his photo op yesterday. Surprised he didn't need a golf cart to get there.

[kingstonlake]

He has literally the exact same basis for his claims as you do, brah.

No, I have a LOT more basis

A) It has been one of the lynch pins of Russian intelligence operations to sow divisions among adversaries. They have a whole course on it in their training, with intense instruction on psychology and manipulation techniques.  In the 60s they wrote letters to media, claiming to be KKK members, inciting racial tensions. They also sent bombs to black leaders.  They also played the other side, teaming with militant black groups and supporting/inciting tensions on that side.  This has all been well documented.

B)  One of pantry's boys, Senator Marco Rubio, Republican, and Chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee, said that at least three foreign adversaries were stoking things on social media.  He also said that both left wing and right wing groups are being incited by them(though the widespread indications from everyone except Trump is that it is predominantly right wing).  Still, give Rubio a bit of credit for explicitly saying that right wing groups are at least part of the problem.  Want more from Rubio talking specifically about Russia?  A week ago, but before all this blew up too much, he said, that Russia's efforts to tap into the divisions in this country is like lighting a match and that their efforts have "succeeded beyond Putin's wildest dreams."


There, I've provided specific historical precedent and general 100 years of a country's M.O., combined with claims from one of your side's biggest "stars".  What do you got, Pantry?

Hillary wouldn’t do any better.

[Robert J Sakimano]

a picture that makes the MAGA patriots swell with pride.

[Cameron]

Just saw the looting pics in Manhattan. I feel like the protests have just about run its course at this point. It’s going to be impossible to do these without the opportunists and the black bloc anarchists and white supremacists fucking these up. I’d move to phase two at this point, organize boycotts, organize to vote and other intelligent creative ways to get the message out there. Amazingly and I know some aren’t want to hear it but I still have a lot of Bernie friends (actual acquaintances) that still can’t even decide if they are going to vote for Trumps opponent. Organizing the left to vote is like herding cats. Not only that there’s probably a lot we can do to organize resources to make sure poor inner city folk are able to vote. Organize transportation to those that have distant polling places, assist with getting absentee ballots, assist those that have long work shifts on Election Day at their minimum wage jobs...it’s going to be a turnout game in a few swing state’s and it’s going to be a nail biter. Most important election of our lives and if Trump wins game over.  

Alright everybody, bald old white dude says protesting has run its course. Time to pack it in, head home, and say three hail Joes before bed.

[steveschneider]

Just saw the looting pics in Manhattan. I feel like the protests have just about run its course at this point. It’s going to be impossible to do these without the opportunists and the black bloc anarchists and white supremacists fucking these up. I’d move to phase two at this point, organize boycotts, organize to vote and other intelligent creative ways to get the message out there. Amazingly and I know some aren’t want to hear it but I still have a lot of Bernie friends (actual acquaintances) that still can’t even decide if they are going to vote for Trumps opponent. Organizing the left to vote is like herding cats. Not only that there’s probably a lot we can do to organize resources to make sure poor inner city folk are able to vote. Organize transportation to those that have distant polling places, assist with getting absentee ballots, assist those that have long work shifts on Election Day at their minimum wage jobs...it’s going to be a turnout game in a few swing state’s and it’s going to be a nail biter. Most important election of our lives and if Trump wins game over.  

Alright everybody, bald old white dude says protesting has run its course. Time to pack it in, head home, and say three hail Joes before bed.

An ageist and a hairist. You got them both in.

[Cameron]

Alright everybody, bald old white dude says protesting has run its course. Time to pack it in, head home, and say three hail Joes before bed.

An ageist and a hairist. You got them both in.

Yeah, but I didn't get a shot in at your IQ, at least not directly.

[steveschneider]

An ageist and a hairist. You got them both in.

Yeah, but I didn't get a shot in at your IQ, at least not directly.

I'm used to your ad hominem attacks. I'll give you credit at least your attack on my baldness was fresh material, took you a long time to come up with new material but today you did it.

[Turtleneck]

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But armed white people get to yell at cops and parade around a capitol building.

[Cameron]

Fuck every cop forever.

[Cameron]

I feel like we're long past the point where literally everyone would be safer if the cops just stayed off the streets completely.

[Robert J Sakimano]

it should be noted that this terrorist behavior is not only being supported by the White House, but it's being advocated for by the White House.

I could be wrong but I'm not seeing that reported or said out loud very much.

[Turtleneck]

Fuck every cop forever.

Honestly, although I am pro union, police unions are a big part of the problem. They oppose all meaningful reforms to recruiting, training, or actual policing, and reject any and all criticism. They not only work to keep bullies and murderers out of jail, but to keep them employed as well. The Minneapolis police union president said the four officers fired got no due process and the union plans to fight their terminations.

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Seems appropriate here.

[Cameron]

Fuck every cop forever.

Honestly, although I am pro union, police unions are a big part of the problem. They oppose all meaningful reforms to recruiting, training, or actual policing, and reject any and all criticism. They not only work to keep bullies and murderers out of jail, but to keep them employed as well.  The Minneapolis police union president said the four officers fired got no due process and the union plans to fight their terminations.

I can't recall ever having heard/read a statement from a police union that wasn't flagrantly at odds with reality.

[Turtleneck]

I guess there was a good reason I kind of forgot about the third guy..

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[MiamiSpartan]

it should be noted that this terrorist behavior is not only being supported by the White House, but it's being advocated for by the White House.

I could be wrong but I'm not seeing that reported or said out loud very much.

If you don't watch the media, how would you know what they've reported?

[steveschneider]

I guess there was a good reason I kind of forgot about the third guy..

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Probably suffering a brain injury from when his bass guitar crashed on his head during the MTV Music Awards.

[steveschneider]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1267945961252442112?s=21

[Turtleneck]

It’s official. Cobra has infiltrated America. For real though...this is where we are...on the precipice of fascism. This is what Trump and his enablers and supporters have always wanted.

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[GRR Spartan]

Today I spoke to a friend who lives on the east end of Kalamazoo who spoke to his neighbor who is with the Kalamazoo County Sheriff Dept about Monday evening /Tuesday morning.

According to the neighbor Kalamazoo DPS (they have fire/patrolman dual duty) were prepared for the first protest when 30-40 cars came into downtown.  

When that group departed at least 50% of them headed to West Main/Drake Road business area but were met by Kalamazoo County Sheriff deputies and they dispersed again.

Law enforcement got word there was going to be on more attempt to protest downtown and Kalamazoo DPS was waiting.  But what they weren't ready for what was 30-40 downtown the first time growing to 450-500 cars with passengers descending on the city.

The protests being well organized.  I'm such a cynic I don't know if they are organizing thru ANTIFA type anti-capitalism social groups who are G7 regulars or white supremicist groups pushing for Trump to order US military intervention.

[Robert J Sakimano]

it should be noted that this terrorist behavior is not only being supported by the White House, but it's being advocated for by the White House.

I could be wrong but I'm not seeing that reported or said out loud very much.

If you don't watch the media, how would you know what they've reported?

people here aren't saying it in their posts, posting of links, etc. Seems like people are talking about fascism but not that it's being advocated by the White House.

[MiamiSpartan]

If you don't watch the media, how would you know what they've reported?

people here aren't saying it in their posts, posting of links, etc. Seems like people are talking about fascism but not that it's being advocated by the White House.

Uh huh, we believe you.

Personally I've seen it discussed repeatedly.

[Turtleneck]

It’s official. Cobra has infiltrated America. For real though...this is where we are...on the precipice of fascism. This is what Trump and his enablers and supporters have always wanted.

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This is two spots above you, Bob. People are saying and have been saying it since before he was elected.

[kingstonlake]

At least Floyd wasn’t murdered by the real enemy. The Caravan.

[Jake from State Farm]

If you don't watch the media, how would you know what they've reported?

people here aren't saying it in their posts, posting of links, etc. Seems like people are talking about fascism but not that it's being advocated by the White House.

You mean to tell me that you missed the one where the White House is now denying that the protestors were teargassed in order for Trump to have his bible thumping photo op?

[Jake from State Farm]

Tear gas? What tear gas?

[steveschneider]

“ the president’s decision to march through the heart of the city’s unrest caused police and National Guard units to blast a peaceful crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets, carving a punishing path to the steps of St. John’s. But the show of force seemed to emphasize only that his legitimacy has shrunk to the point that he feels moved to dominate his own people with military power.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/opinion/trump-bible-speech-st-johns-church.html

[steveschneider]

Powerful.

https://twitter.com/gadinbc/status/1267945648705298433?s=21

[steveschneider]

Pathetic and cowardly. The body language also gave away how they really feel.

https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1267995719660720128?s=21

[steveschneider]

And one for the ages.

https://twitter.com/efindell/status/1267900622218682368?s=21

[Floyd Robertson]

Esper is signalling he wants Trump to fire him.

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[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Pathetic and cowardly. The body language also gave away how they really feel.

https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1267995719660720128?s=21

Fucking cowards

[Robert J Sakimano]

Pathetic and cowardly. The body language also gave away how they really feel.

https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1267995719660720128?s=21

Fucking cowards

the modern day GOP.

I never really cared for McCain's politics, but the integrity of the GOP died when he died. Now they're shills for Russia and protected by the majority of mainstream media.

If allowed to vote in November, America should put them in the minority.

[Robert J Sakimano]

so the Secretary of Defense has to tell the failed reality TV star that invading the United States with the US military is a bad idea?

[steveschneider]

Pretty fascinating listen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y1vGD7bNEg

Rush Limbaugh and Charlemagne the God. Two completely opposite sides of the aisle talking. A historic moment I actually respect Rush for doing this. I didn't agree with much of what he said but I think his audience needed to hear this. Great push backs by Charlemagne and his staff.

[Turtleneck]

Pretty fascinating listen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y1vGD7bNEg

Rush Limbaugh and Charlemagne the God. Two completely opposite sides of the aisle talking. A historic moment I actually respect Rush for doing this. I didn't agree with much of what he said but I think his audience needed to hear this. Great push backs by Charlemagne and his staff.

Disagree. Enough placating to racists. I am in favor of dialogue with conservatives, but Rush, if he ever truly had them, abandoned his conservative credentials a long time ago. Instead he decided full blown lunatic full of hate was the best path.

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