Name image likeness and recruitment

Let’s say wall side windows sponsors the Michigan State starting point guard. They give our starting point guard $1 million per year to be spokesman or to use that image. When I go out and recruit a point guard to replace him is that what I will tell them? Instead of selling the school to them I will say if you’re the starting point guard at Michigan State wall side windows gives you $1 million. This could really get interesting

The J. Ira and Nicki Harris Starting Point Guard!

The whole nil thing will need tweaking for some time to come. It also doesn’t resolve the matter of the majority of teammates busting their humps without any compensation.

“Man was created in my image and likeness” - Book of Genesis.

NigelUno wrote:The J. Ira and Nicki Harris Starting Point Guard!

Presented by rocket mortgage!

DWags wrote:Let’s say wall side windows sponsors the Michigan State starting point guard. They give our starting point guard $1 million per year to be spokesman or to use that image. When I go out and recruit a point guard to replace him is that what I will tell them? Instead of selling the school to them I will say if you’re the starting point guard at Michigan State wall side windows gives you $1 million. This could really get interesting

And it won't matter if you don't have any scholarships left, if a company pays a player.

What if that player (not on scholarship) gets hurt though (or just underperforms)?

Then Company X might not pay him the next year.

duffy munn wrote:Who knows but it will certainly change the way coaches recruit kids. Their actual involvement ( if that's even allowed) in these deals will be interesting to see.

I'll say this: I don't see Izzo playing this game very long. I wouldn't be shocked if 2021-22 is it.

Gotta hand it to Memphis, they have Rasheed Wallace and Larry Brown on their staff now. Memphis is positioning itself to lure the best talent in the country.

Mad Dog will be able to afford a walk-on.

"I'm tellin' ya right now.. and I ain't pushin' no baby buggies. It'll be like the time I seen (insert name of walk-on here) goin' into QDoba and I told him they don't sell no hamburgers.. so I drove him to the South Cedar Burger King and now he is the King of The Mad Dog Show.. which reminds me of that time I saw Jimmy Snuka at the Silverdome do a quadruple twist flip and land right on Black Jack Mulligan's solar plexus.. I seen it. I was not not there, if you know what I mean...

I saw Coach Izzo a few years back and told him about it.. I said "Tommy, if you could have the restraining order removed against me, maybe we could knock back a few pops at Leroys and I could tell you more about that time I seen Abdullah the Butcher - The Man from Sudan - take on Sweet Ebony Diamond in the parking lot of the Flint K-Mart"...

now, Brock.. hit the music. This man is a living legend.. a staple of the community in Lansing, East Lansing and all points in between. He was the 7th man comin' off the bench in high school and is most notable known for his role in his middle school's Christmas play. He ain't pushin' no baby buggies and I seen the video. I really did. He did a great job.. ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome (insert name of walk-on here) onto the Mad Dog Show"..

duffy munn wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Mad Dog will be able to afford a walk-on.

"I'm tellin' ya right now.. and I ain't pushin' no baby buggies. It'll be like the time I seen (insert name of walk-on here) goin' into QDoba and I told him they don't sell no hamburgers.. so I drove him to the South Cedar Burger King and now he is the King of The Mad Dog Show.. which reminds me of that time I saw Jimmy Snuka at the Silverdome do a quadruple twist flip and land right on Black Jack Mulligan's solar plexus.. I seen it. I was not not there, if you know what I mean...

I saw Coach Izzo a few years back and told him about it.. I said "Tommy, if you could have the restraining order removed against me, maybe we could knock back a few pops at Leroys and I could tell you more about that time I seen Abdullah the Butcher - The Man from Sudan - take on Sweet Ebony Diamond in the parking lot of the Flint K-Mart"...

now, Brock.. hit the music. This man is a living legend.. a staple of the community in Lansing, East Lansing and all points in between. He was the 7th man comin' off the bench in high school and is most notable known for his role in his middle school's Christmas play. He ain't pushin' no baby buggies and I seen the video. I really did. He did a great job.. ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome (insert name of walk-on here) onto the Mad Dog Show"..

Lol. That's no way to talk about the latest inductee to the Great Lansing sports Hall of fame. I mean that, I really do.

there's no gettin' around it.

I'll give Mad Dog credit for one thing.. and that's the fact that someone with the communication skills of a 4th grader was able to get named to the Greater Lansing Sports Hall of Fame based on his career in communications.

seriously.. congrats to him for that. That is pretty impressive.

I mean that, I really do. There's no getting around it. It's like the time I seen Chief Wahoo McDaniels body spin Andre The Giant at the Silverdome.. there ain't been nobody who could not not do something the way Chief Wahoo McDaniels didn't not do it.

Bill Cain wrote:“Man was created in my image and likeness” - Book of Genesis.

to defile, ball gag and whip... the book of Bill Cain.

So Seriously... Let's say that Gilbert, Gores, Ishbia and Magic decide to make MSU great again... Sell their stakes in the pros... sink a million into each starting player on both basketball and football... Wouldnt that be enough of a billionaire rush to win both Natty's in a single year?

AvgMSUJoe wrote:So Seriously... Let's say that Gilbert, Gores, Ishbia and Magic decide to make MSU great again... Sell their stakes in the pros... sink a million into each starting player on both basketball and football... Wouldnt that be enough of a billionaire rush to win both Natty's in a single year?

On paper, maybe. But as we’ve often discussed here and on TOB years ago, talent alone won’t win titles, and no title is a sure thing. There are too many other factors involved.

tGreenWay wrote:

AvgMSUJoe wrote:So Seriously... Let's say that Gilbert, Gores, Ishbia and Magic decide to make MSU great again... Sell their stakes in the pros... sink a million into each starting player on both basketball and football... Wouldnt that be enough of a billionaire rush to win both Natty's in a single year?

On paper, maybe. But as we’ve often discussed here and on TOB years ago, talent alone won’t win titles, and no title is a sure thing. There are too many other factors involved.

back to you in the studio, bobby sak

AvgMSUJoe wrote:So Seriously... Let's say that Gilbert, Gores, Ishbia and Magic decide to make MSU great again... Sell their stakes in the pros... sink a million into each starting player on both basketball and football... Wouldnt that be enough of a billionaire rush to win both Natty's in a single year?

Billionaires like to make money.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:So Seriously... Let's say that Gilbert, Gores, Ishbia and Magic decide to make MSU great again... Sell their stakes in the pros... sink a million into each starting player on both basketball and football... Wouldnt that be enough of a billionaire rush to win both Natty's in a single year?

Could print up a shirt M$U the Be$t Natty$ Money Can Buy

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:



On paper, maybe. But as we’ve often discussed here and on TOB years ago, talent alone won’t win titles, and no title is a sure thing. There are too many other factors involved.

back to you in the studio, bobby sak

I’m hoping to be able to throw it back to Lee Corso some time this season.

NigelUno wrote:

AvgMSUJoe wrote:So Seriously... Let's say that Gilbert, Gores, Ishbia and Magic decide to make MSU great again... Sell their stakes in the pros... sink a million into each starting player on both basketball and football... Wouldnt that be enough of a billionaire rush to win both Natty's in a single year?

Billionaires like to make money.

I'd rather have our billionaires us their money to win national titles then go to outer space.

steveschneider wrote:

duffy munn wrote:Who knows but it will certainly change the way coaches recruit kids. Their actual involvement ( if that's even allowed) in these deals will be interesting to see.

I'll say this: I don't see Izzo playing this game very long. I wouldn't be shocked if 2021-22 is it.

Gotta hand it to Memphis, they have Rasheed Wallace and Larry Brown on their staff now. Memphis is positioning itself to lure the best talent in the country.

16 year-old kids be like Larry who?

Floyd Robertson wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

Gotta hand it to Memphis, they have Rasheed Wallace and Larry Brown on their staff now. Memphis is positioning itself to lure the best talent in the country.

16 year-old kids be like Larry who?

Sure but they and their circle parents etc probably has access to that information re the pedigree

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

16 year-old kids be like Larry who?

Sure but they and their circle parents etc probably has access to that information re the pedigree

Good point. Parents and advisors can surely point to Brown's accomplishments.

At his age the parents might be reminding him of his own accomplishments.

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Cameron wrote:Fuck a lease, top prospects are gonna want something they don't have to give back.

When are the contracts going to go both ways? Breach and stuff when contracts aren't fulfilled.

Think recruiting recruiting has gotten to

How much?  How much ya got? negotiations

It’s not NIL. This is just pure pay to play. I’m not griping, I’m just pointing out the shit storm.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

Cameron wrote:Fuck a lease, top prospects are gonna want something they don't have to give back.

When are the contracts going to go both ways? Breach and stuff when contracts aren't fulfilled.

Coaches get cars. I'm OK with players getting them. In theory.

duffy munn wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Coaches get cars. I'm OK with players getting them. In theory.

Coaches can also get fired

Coaches have million dollar contracts, and (generally) get buy outs if fired.

Players kinda can get fired too. New coaches can get rid of players (see: Colorado), and coaches can nudge players out the door. Or a billionaire can decide to stop his NIL payments....

NigelUno wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

Coaches can also get fired

Coaches have million dollar contracts, and (generally) get buy outs if fired.

Players kinda can get fired too. New coaches can get rid of players (see: Colorado), and coaches can nudge players out the door. Or a billionaire can decide to stop his NIL payments.....

It’s a big time professional sports enterprise.

Beginning to think an actual players' union and revenue sharing might be a thing in the future.

I miss the days of me doing Mad Dog riffs.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I miss the days of me doing Mad Dog riffs.

Where did he move? Alabama or Mississippi? Something like that.

I bet Tim misses him.

DWags wrote:It’s not NIL. This is just pure pay to play.  I’m not griping, I’m just pointing out the shit storm.  

About time it’s out in the open

NigelUno wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I miss the days of me doing Mad Dog riffs.

Where did he move?  Alabama or Mississippi?  Something like that.

I bet Tim misses him.  

I listen to Staudt from time to time. I actually get a kick out of someone living in the same town he grew up in, went to college in, worked his entire career in, while having absolutely no interest in any of it.

Dave moved somewhere down around the Redneck Riviera, I think. I'm a little surprised he hasn't made some cameo appearances on the radio. Maybe he has, I don't really know.