Re: Caitlin Clark

by Pervis Muldoon 2024-02-04, 20:42

I think Steph Curry paved the way for Clark. Basketball fans used to love highlight dunks, but over the past decade they have gotten more excited about great shooting - so Caitlin came along at the perfect time with the perfect skill set.

There's always been a racial component to the game, but it gets settled on the court. Caitlin will be fine.

by **DWags** 2024-02-04, 20:49

Turtleneck wrote:I am sure there is a reason why the Iowa WBB social media people randomly tweeted this today.

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Maybe Swoopes is upset by what she perceives as racial bias, that previous black players were comparatively ignored. If true, I understand, but think it is a misperception. Even if that is entirely the case, Clark is not a mediocre player propped up for TV. She is an incredible talent who clearly works extraordinarily hard at her craft. She is the real deal.

I think Trapper is right, it is probably more jealousy than anything. However, Swoopes should be mad at the system, not Clark. Everything about college sports is monetized, including turning players into commodities not unlike professional sports. It was only a matter of time before they found a women’s CBB player with the kind of skillset, it is perfect that it is a versatile guard with unlimited range, to get people to watch and gamble on the sport. Not to mention, Swoopes played before social media and YouTube, so visibility and marketing the sport was much harder. A lot of great women players went without media attention because it was difficult to circulate their highlights and publicize them. Clark is just playing her best, working hard, and it is the system that is doing the rest.

Agree with this. Bottom line, don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Maryland just sold out their arena for a women’s game in line decades. Know who they wanted to see?

by **Turtleneck** 2024-02-04, 20:58

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:I am sure there is a reason why the Iowa WBB social media people randomly tweeted this today.

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Maybe Swoopes is upset by what she perceives as racial bias, that previous black players were comparatively ignored. If true, I understand, but think it is a misperception. Even if that is entirely the case, Clark is not a mediocre player propped up for TV. She is an incredible talent who clearly works extraordinarily hard at her craft. She is the real deal.

I think Trapper is right, it is probably more jealousy than anything. However, Swoopes should be mad at the system, not Clark. Everything about college sports is monetized, including turning players into commodities not unlike professional sports. It was only a matter of time before they found a women’s CBB player with the kind of skillset, it is perfect that it is a versatile guard with unlimited range, to get people to watch and gamble on the sport. Not to mention, Swoopes played before social media and YouTube, so visibility and marketing the sport was much harder. A lot of great women players went without media attention because it was difficult to circulate their highlights and publicize them. Clark is just playing her best, working hard, and it is the system that is doing the rest.

Agree with this. Bottom line, don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Maryland just sold out their arena for a women’s game in line decades. Know who they wanted to see?

A turtle mascot waiving the worst state flag in America?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2024-02-04, 21:13

Turtleneck wrote:I am sure there is a reason why the Iowa WBB social media people randomly tweeted this today.

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Maybe Swoopes is upset by what she perceives as racial bias, that previous black players were comparatively ignored. If true, I understand, but think it is a misperception. Even if that is entirely the case, Clark is not a mediocre player propped up for TV. She is an incredible talent who clearly works extraordinarily hard at her craft. She is the real deal.

I think Trapper is right, it is probably more jealousy than anything. However, Swoopes should be mad at the system, not Clark. Everything about college sports is monetized, including turning players into commodities not unlike professional sports. It was only a matter of time before they found a women’s CBB player with the kind of skillset, it is perfect that it is a versatile guard with unlimited range, to get people to watch and gamble on the sport. Not to mention, Swoopes played before social media and YouTube, so visibility and marketing the sport was much harder. A lot of great women players went without media attention because it was difficult to circulate their highlights and publicize them. Clark is just playing her best, working hard, and it is the system that is doing the rest.

hate seeing successful women tearing down other successful women.

Women had a hard enough time trying to navigate a world ruled by men. It's unfortunate to see Swoopes say these sorts of things.

by **NigelUno** 2024-02-04, 23:35

duffy munn wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

I'm not the biggest Clark fan but Clark has played 15 or 16 less total games than Plum is you go investigating the comments
making the comments even worse. Reeks of Isiah saying if Bird was black he would just be another player.

Bingo

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2024-02-08, 21:05

The Caitlin Clarkeyes tipping off on BTN.

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-08, 21:19

rough start for Caitlin

by **GRR Spartan** 2024-02-08, 21:49

Clark knows scoring is hard work and knows she’s the focus of all Iowa’s opponents all season. There will be a game where she can’t will an Iowa game.

Swoope’s remarks were incorrect but she didn’t pull all her alleged facts out of her hat. Sounded like she read social media “facts” repeated so much she accepted them as truth and repeated them as such

Clark is 22 not 25 as Swoope’s stated

Clark average shots per game in the ‘23-24 season is 22.3 and 19.7 per game for her career at Iowa. (Swoopes took 24.9 per game in her 2 seasons at Texas Tech)

Clark isn’t taking a 5th season to break a record.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2024/02/05/sheryl-swoopes-caitlin-clark-womens-basketball-has-arrived/72484074007/

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-08, 22:05

GRR Spartan wrote:Clark knows scoring is hard work and knows she’s the focus of all Iowa’s opponents all season. There will be a game where she can’t will an Iowa game.

Swoope’s remarks were incorrect but she didn’t pull all her alleged facts out of her hat. Sounded like she read social media “facts” repeated so much she accepted them as truth and repeated them as such

Clark is 22 not 25 as Swoope’s stated

Clark average shots per game in the ‘23-24 season is 22.3 and 19.7 per game for her career at Iowa. (Swoopes took 24.9 per game in her 2 seasons at Texas Tech)

Clark isn’t taking a 5th season to break a record.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2024/02/05/sheryl-swoopes-caitlin-clark-womens-basketball-has-arrived/72484074007/

It would be one thing if she was just a chucker who jacked up as many shots as possible. But she has a complete game and plays within the offense. Great passer and good rebounder. If she has one weakness it's turnovers but a bunch of those are really good passes that her teammates don't handle.

by **Turtleneck** 2024-02-08, 22:09

GRR Spartan wrote:Clark knows scoring is hard work and knows she’s the focus of all Iowa’s opponents all season. There will be a game where she can’t will an Iowa game.

Swoope’s remarks were incorrect but she didn’t pull all her alleged facts out of her hat. Sounded like she read social media “facts” repeated so much she accepted them as truth and repeated them as such

Clark is 22 not 25 as Swoope’s stated

Clark average shots per game in the ‘23-24 season is 22.3 and 19.7 per game for her career at Iowa. (Swoopes took 24.9 per game in her 2 seasons at Texas Tech)

Clark isn’t taking a 5th season to break a record.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2024/02/05/sheryl-swoopes-caitlin-clark-womens-basketball-has-arrived/72484074007/

Do you ever read any other posts in a thread before posting?

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 08:07

Not a good shooting night but Caitlin still finished with 27 points, 15 assists and 5 rebounds

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2024-02-09, 08:50

so she'll get the women's record in the next 2 games (maybe the next one, but she's really gonna have to light it on fire). I believe I read, too, that she's now less than 200 points from Pete Mavarich's men's record.

I hope she comes back to Iowa next year. With the NIL money, I think there's a good chance. When she goes to the WNBA, she'll be an all-star, a top player - probably the top player - but it'll still pale in comparison to what she brings to the college game - the excitement, the packed arenas, the young girls wearing #22 jerseys, etc.

by **Turtleneck** 2024-02-09, 09:26

duffy munn wrote:Not a good shooting night but Caitlin still finished with 27 points, 15 assists and 5 rebounds

Should they bench her and give her minutes to a freshman?

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 09:34

Turtleneck wrote:
duffy munn wrote:Not a good shooting night but Caitlin still finished with 27 points, 15 assists and 5 rebounds

Should they bench her and give her minutes to a freshman?

Kinda depends on the stars

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 09:38

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so she'll get the women's record in the next 2 games (maybe the next one, but she's really gonna have to light it on fire). I believe I read, too, that she's now less than 200 points from Pete Mavarich's men's record.

I hope she comes back to Iowa next year. With the NIL money, I think there's a good chance. When she goes to the WNBA, she'll be an all-star, a top player - probably the top player - but it'll still pale in comparison to what she brings to the college game - the excitement, the packed arenas, the young girls wearing #22 jerseys, etc.

Edit below

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 09:41

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so she'll get the women's record in the next 2 games (maybe the next one, but she's really gonna have to light it on fire). I believe I read, too, that she's now less than 200 points from Pete Mavarich's men's record.

I hope she comes back to Iowa next year. With the NIL money, I think there's a good chance. When she goes to the WNBA, she'll be an all-star, a top player - probably the top player - but it'll still pale in comparison to what she brings to the college game - the excitement, the packed arenas, the young girls wearing #22 jerseys, etc.

If she breaks pistol Pete's record I'm not sure it will be legit because there was no three point line when he played. He also only played 3 years ( freshman were ineligible) and set the record in 83 games. That said, she plays a lot like him.

by **NigelUno** 2024-02-09, 09:59

duffy munn wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Should they bench her and give her minutes to a freshman?

Kinda depends on the stars

by **GRR Spartan** 2024-02-09, 10:00

Turtleneck wrote:
duffy munn wrote:Not a good shooting night but Caitlin still finished with 27 points, 15 assists and 5 rebounds

Should they bench her and give her minutes to a freshman?

Check with Sheryl Swoopes and then post the answer to your question.

by **NigelUno** 2024-02-09, 10:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so she'll get the women's record in the next 2 games (maybe the next one, but she's really gonna have to light it on fire). I believe I read, too, that she's now less than 200 points from Pete Mavarich's men's record.

I hope she comes back to Iowa next year. With the NIL money, I think there's a good chance. When she goes to the WNBA, she'll be an all-star, a top player - probably the top player - but it'll still pale in comparison to what she brings to the college game - the excitement, the packed arenas, the young girls wearing #22 jerseys, etc.

She may have deferred (and passed more) last night so she can set the record at home next week. I think they have a road game with Nebraska next.

by **DWags** 2024-02-09, 11:49

duffy munn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:so she'll get the women's record in the next 2 games (maybe the next one, but she's really gonna have to light it on fire). I believe I read, too, that she's now less than 200 points from Pete Mavarich's men's record.

I hope she comes back to Iowa next year. With the NIL money, I think there's a good chance. When she goes to the WNBA, she'll be an all-star, a top player - probably the top player - but it'll still pale in comparison to what she brings to the college game - the excitement, the packed arenas, the young girls wearing #22 jerseys, etc.

If she breaks pistol Pete's record I'm not sure it will be legit because there was no three point line when he played. He also only played 3 years ( freshman were ineligible) and set the record in 83 games. That said, she plays a lot like him.

This is where I agree with Cheryl Swoopes. There should be two records, and I’m sure there are. One is points per game. One is total points in a career I’m sure they have records for points per season also

Pete, Maravich, for any of you, who are old enough to remember him was unbelievable.

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 12:07

DWags wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

If she breaks pistol Pete's record I'm not sure it will be legit because there was no three point line when he played. He also only played 3 years ( freshman were ineligible) and set the record in 83 games. That said, she plays a lot like him.

This is where I agree with Cheryl Swoopes. There should be two records, and I’m sure there are. One is points per game. One is total points in a career I’m sure they have records for points per season also

Pete, Maravich, for any of you, who are old enough to remember him was unbelievable.

He averaged 44 points a game without the 3 pointer. That's insane. He also made some of the most spectacular passes you will ever see. Magic like if not better. Incredible ball handler too. All of the youngsters here ( OPTP) you you tube the highlights. He was unbelievable

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 16:41

DWags wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

If she breaks pistol Pete's record I'm not sure it will be legit because there was no three point line when he played. He also only played 3 years ( freshman were ineligible) and set the record in 83 games. That said, she plays a lot like him.

This is where I agree with Cheryl Swoopes. There should be two records, and I’m sure there are. One is points per game. One is total points in a career I’m sure they have records for points per season also

Pete, Maravich, for any of you, who are old enough to remember him was unbelievable.

Yeah some records are skewed and others may become unbreakable. For instance, I doubt anybody ever breaks Lorenzo's record for career yards at MSU simple because they won't stay 4 years. Same with Shawn Respert in basketball.

by **Turtleneck** 2024-02-09, 16:54

duffy munn wrote:
DWags wrote:

This is where I agree with Cheryl Swoopes. There should be two records, and I’m sure there are. One is points per game. One is total points in a career I’m sure they have records for points per season also

Pete, Maravich, for any of you, who are old enough to remember him was unbelievable.

He averaged 44 points a game without the 3 pointer. That's insane. He also made some of the most spectacular passes you will ever see. Magic like if not better. Incredible ball handler too. All of the youngsters here ( OPTP) you you tube the highlights. He was unbelievable

I don't know, OTPT thinks basketball greatness started with James Harden.

by **DWags** 2024-02-09, 17:33

#’s 14 13, and 10 are amazing. #6 is for you political hacks. He gives future New York Senator Bill Bradley the OL Okey Doke.

This mofo was magic before magic got to the NBA and he was Seth before Seth got there. Died way too soon.

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 20:00

Wags when I was a kid I wanted to play just like Pistol Pete. My coaches hated my for it. Especially in high school. " why do you have to try THAT pass?!"

by **Nordic** 2024-02-09, 20:59

Looks like is old timer story time again

Caitlin Clark - Page 9 2809484752

by **DWags** 2024-02-09, 21:01

duffy munn wrote:Wags when I was a kid I wanted to play just like Pistol Pete. My coaches hated my for it. Especially in high school. " why do you have to try THAT pass?!"

Those brother rice coaches hated everyone.

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-09, 22:33

DWags wrote:
duffy munn wrote:Wags when I was a kid I wanted to play just like Pistol Pete. My coaches hated my for it. Especially in high school. " why do you have to try THAT pass?!"

Those brother rice coaches hated everyone.

At least I didn't play football where you had to get a crew cut. Right now I think Nordic might be googling crew cut.

by **tGreenWay** 2024-02-09, 23:27

Nordic wrote:Looks like is old timer story time again

Show some respect for your olders.

by **DWags** 2024-02-09, 23:54

tGreenWay wrote:
Nordic wrote:Looks like is old timer story time again

Show some respect for your olders.

Youthfully challenged.

by **duffy munn** 2024-02-10, 00:08

DWags wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Show some respect for your olders.

Youthfully challenged.

Youth is wasted on the young

by AvgMSUJoe 2024-02-11, 15:02

Anyone watching this? Caitlyn 4th quarter has been shit.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2024-02-11, 15:14

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Anyone watching this? Caitlyn 4th quarter has been shit.

rough game for the Clarkeyes.

On the upside, she gets to break the record at home Thursday vs UM.

by aualum06 2024-02-11, 15:24

Losing is never good but I'm of the thought that losing is good sometimes for good teams to refocus and realize they aren't that good

by **DWags** 2024-02-11, 16:14

I wonder if she was thinking record at home? She scored 14 in the third and zero in the 4th.? 31 total.

8 away. The game will break television records I’m guessing.

by **NigelUno** 2024-02-11, 16:28

DWags wrote:I wonder if she was thinking record at home? She scored 14 in the third and zero in the 4th.? 31 total.

8 away. The game will break television records I’m guessing.

I think she got out of her game a little in the 4th (wanting to break the record at home).
Next game is on Peacock.

by **DWags** 2024-02-12, 18:28

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by AvgMSUJoe 2024-02-12, 18:56

Wha? Serious?

by **Nordic** 2024-02-12, 19:15

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:I wonder if she was thinking record at home? She scored 14 in the third and zero in the 4th.? 31 total.

8 away. The game will break television records I’m guessing.

I think she got out of her game a little in the 4th (wanting to break the record at home).
Next game is on Peacock.

So this was rigged for Peacock? Got it.

/s

by **tGreenWay** 2024-02-12, 19:29

DWags wrote:[tw]1757177292416008435?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Detroit rags: Fans paying record prices for tickets to see UM women’s basketball team.

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