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Post by sεяεηιτλ Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:12 pm

Louisana signed into law a directive that every public classroom must display a copy of the ten commandments, from k thru college classrooms. What in the actual fuck is this shit?

https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-ten-commandments-displayed-classrooms-571a2447906f7bbd5a166d53db005a62

https://www.nola.com/news/education/article_fa92d2f6-2da8-11ef-95b4-6fe9249a5daa.html
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:40 pm

sεяεηιτλ wrote:Louisana signed into law a directive that every public classroom must display a copy of the ten commandments, from k thru college classrooms. What in the actual fuck is this shit?

https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-ten-commandments-displayed-classrooms-571a2447906f7bbd5a166d53db005a62

https://www.nola.com/news/education/article_fa92d2f6-2da8-11ef-95b4-6fe9249a5daa.html

Anti-American BS is what it is.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:49 pm

Lemme guess.

The same people who support this want to defund school lunch programs for low income families?
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:22 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Lemme guess.

The same people who support this want to defund school lunch programs for low income families?

The same people that think they are following the constitution by insisting the right to bare arms is virtually unlimited, and yet this is some how ok
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Post by MiamiSpartan Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:11 am

Apart from the obvious issues about church and state, college classrooms seems especially weird. I mean, is there ANYTHING that is required in every public college classroom? Maybe exit signs, that's about it.
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Post by aualum06 Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:41 am

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Post by duffy munn Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:24 am

This is simply wrong.
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Post by kingstonlake Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:29 am

This will be a quick unconstitutional ruling once it gets to the Supreme Court.

Well, it should be….
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Post by Cameron Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:49 am

This is deeply unfair. My neighbor's cattle are so fucking nice you guys, everyone covets them.
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Post by kingstonlake Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:16 am

At least they got rid of subsidies for poor kids school lunches. Priorities.  These people are sick.

https://www.nola.com/news/politics/legislature/louisiana-refusing-federal-cash-to-help-feed-poor-families/article_a62369ec-c7aa-11ee-859d-e3884c014c95.amp.html

Every child deserves a safe home, first and foremost, and families deserve a pathway to self-sufficiency," David Matlock said in a statement. "Staying focused on that mission, without adding piecemeal programs that come with more strings than long-term solutions, is what will deliver the biggest impact for the children and families we serve.
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Post by aualum06 Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:28 am

kingstonlake wrote:At least they got rid of subsidies for poor kids school lunches. Priorities.  These people are sick.

https://www.nola.com/news/politics/legislature/louisiana-refusing-federal-cash-to-help-feed-poor-families/article_a62369ec-c7aa-11ee-859d-e3884c014c95.amp.html

Every child deserves a safe home, first and foremost, and families deserve a pathway to self-sufficiency," David Matlock said in a statement. "Staying focused on that mission, without adding piecemeal programs that come with more strings than long-term solutions, is what will deliver the biggest impact for the children and families we serve.


Yeah unbelievable schools wouldn't provide two free meals a day. I mean the food sometimes leaves things to be desired and an unbelievable amount of food.is thrown out but let's feed kids it's something easy
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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:55 am

I don't know... with climate change accelerating, Louisiana is gonna need to start praying. Maybe a little religion will do them good.

/s just in case anyone is insane enough to miss the sarcasm
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:09 pm

after their unwavering support for the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon, I will never be surprised by anything republicans/libertarians do.

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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:19 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:after their unwavering support for the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon, I will never be surprised by anything republicans/libertarians do.


Please tell me you have a hot key for that and don't actually type it out 30+ times a day.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:20 pm

TravelinMan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:after their unwavering support for the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon, I will never be surprised by anything republicans/libertarians do.


Please tell me you have a hot key for that and don't actually type it out 30+ times a day.
you have no idea how boring my life is, do you?

plus, I enjoy needling at y'all.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:33 pm

Freedom of religion doesn't mean others are free to force their god on you.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:45 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:Freedom of religion doesn't mean others are free to force their god on you.
I'm a big fan of freedom from religion.

and guns.

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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:50 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Please tell me you have a hot key for that and don't actually type it out 30+ times a day.
you have no idea how boring my life is, do you?

plus, I enjoy needling at y'all.

Carpal Tunnel is real. Take care of yourself, Bob.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:03 pm

TravelinMan wrote:
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you have no idea how boring my life is, do you?

plus, I enjoy needling at y'all.

Carpal Tunnel is real.  Take care of yourself, Bob.
thanks, man, but if I can do anything well, it's repetition.

(running, cycling, napping, mocking republican/libertarian christians).

as always, though, your prayers are appreciated.
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Post by GRR Spartan Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:27 pm

Any word on biblical penalties for Louisiana’s elected officials and members of law enforcement who break any of the commandments yet?
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:58 pm

TravelinMan wrote:I don't know... with climate change accelerating, Louisiana is gonna need to start praying. Maybe a little religion will do them good.

/s just in case anyone is insane enough to miss the sarcasm

Just wondering if you mean the loss of land due to the sea level rising, which is ongoing there, or the loss of jobs as the oil industry dies?
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:59 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Any word on biblical penalties for Louisiana’s elected officials and members of law enforcement who break any of the commandments yet?

That's at God's pay grade.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:12 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Any word on biblical penalties for Louisiana’s elected officials and members of law enforcement who break any of the commandments yet?

They've been exempted from any and all penalties, as long as they can keep it in the closet
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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:34 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:I don't know... with climate change accelerating, Louisiana is gonna need to start praying. Maybe a little religion will do them good.

/s just in case anyone is insane enough to miss the sarcasm

Just wondering if you mean the loss of land due to the sea level rising, which is ongoing there, or the loss of jobs as the oil industry dies?

I was thinking the former, but you raise many good points.

Was discussing this on my cross-country drive yesterday. I kind of feel for the folks in the oil and transportation industries. Depending upon how many rednecks turn out to vote this fall, they don't know whether to make solar powered micro hatchbacks, or diesel F350s. Tough to do much planning. I see Stellantis is holding off on their 2025 Jeep plans until calendar year. They've extended the 392 for now, but had previously announced revised hybrid and full electric models. Powertrain engineers watching the polls more than Democrats. Louisiana requiring 10 commandments in classrooms  502811600
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:38 pm

It's been pretty obvious the the US & to some extent the Japanese OEMs have been hedging their bets for the US markets.

Thing is they are really screwed if Trump wins, as the rest of the globe is going electric regardless.
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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:42 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:It's been pretty obvious the the US & to some extent the Japanese OEMs have been hedging their bets for the US markets.

Thing is they are really screwed if Trump wins, as the rest of the globe is going electric regardless.

North America is a very different market than the rest of the world. It's very possible it will need very different solutions. While I think Trump winning would be a bad thing, having the government stop trying to cram a favored solution down the public's throats might not be.
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:46 pm

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:It's been pretty obvious the the US & to some extent the Japanese OEMs have been hedging their bets for the US markets.

Thing is they are really screwed if Trump wins, as the rest of the globe is going electric regardless.

North America is a very different market than the rest of the world.  It's very possible it will need very different solutions.  While I think Trump winning would be a bad thing, having the government stop trying to cram a favored solution down the public's throats might not be.

Thing is though that as it matures electric with be both higher performance and less expensive than ICE.  With much of the innovation happening in China the US will be sucking hind tit.

edit - I see articles like the one attached seveal times each day.  Either  companies are way overhyping their development progess or they are getting to parity refill times verses gas tanks faster than anyone expected.

If so the limiting factor for the EV market is becoming charging stations, not vehicle capabilities.

https://insideevs.com/news/723788/byd-catl-lfp-battery-6c-charging-10-minutes/amp/
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:19 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:It's been pretty obvious the the US & to some extent the Japanese OEMs have been hedging their bets for the US markets.

Thing is they are really screwed if Trump wins, as the rest of the globe is going electric regardless.
everyone is screwed if the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon wins.

even the republican/libertarians that support him. They're just too dumb to know it or comprehend it.
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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:27 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

North America is a very different market than the rest of the world.  It's very possible it will need very different solutions.  While I think Trump winning would be a bad thing, having the government stop trying to cram a favored solution down the public's throats might not be.

Thing is though that as it matures electric with be both higher performance and less expensive than ICE.  With much of the innovation happening in China the US will be sucking hind tit.

edit - I see articles like the one attached seveal times each day.  Either  companies are way overhyping their development progess or they are getting to parity refill times verses gas tanks faster than anyone expected.

If so the limiting factor for the EV market is becoming charging stations, not vehicle capabilities.

https://insideevs.com/news/723788/byd-catl-lfp-battery-6c-charging-10-minutes/amp/

I agree. With some exceptions, range has become a non-issue. Charging infrastructure is a shit show, though. And I know you disagree, but I think that's gonna take WAY longer than 2-10 years to fix. Improvements in time to recharge, as well as ubiquity and reliability need to be addressed. Gas pumps have a 100+ year head start, so it's gonna be tough.
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:51 pm

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Thing is though that as it matures electric with be both higher performance and less expensive than ICE.  With much of the innovation happening in China the US will be sucking hind tit.

edit - I see articles like the one attached seveal times each day.  Either  companies are way overhyping their development progess or they are getting to parity refill times verses gas tanks faster than anyone expected.

If so the limiting factor for the EV market is becoming charging stations, not vehicle capabilities.

https://insideevs.com/news/723788/byd-catl-lfp-battery-6c-charging-10-minutes/amp/

I agree.  With some exceptions, range has become a non-issue.  Charging infrastructure is a shit show, though.  And I know you disagree, but I think that's gonna take WAY longer than 2-10 years to fix.  Improvements in time to recharge, as well as ubiquity and reliability need to be addressed.  Gas pumps have a 100+ year head start, so it's gonna be tough.

I post an article about recharge times dropping to 10 minutes this year and your response is recharge times are still going to be a problem?  I'm not understanding your thinking here.

As for building out a charging network that isn't a technical issue at all.  Just a matter of investment and time.  For a similar technical revolution how long did it take to build out cell phone towers, which have to be line of sight to cell phone users to have coverage?  I'm just trying to say a charger system build out is similar to other build outs which have happened so if the money gets off its ass it can happen in my time frame.
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Post by TravelinMan Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:21 pm

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TravelinMan wrote:

I agree.  With some exceptions, range has become a non-issue.  Charging infrastructure is a shit show, though.  And I know you disagree, but I think that's gonna take WAY longer than 2-10 years to fix.  Improvements in time to recharge, as well as ubiquity and reliability need to be addressed.  Gas pumps have a 100+ year head start, so it's gonna be tough.

I post an article about recharge times dropping to 10 minutes this year and your response is recharge times are still going to be a problem?  I'm not understanding your thinking here.

As for building out a charging network that isn't a technical issue at all.  Just a matter of investment and time.  For a similar technical revolution how long did it take to build out cell phone towers, which have to be line of sight to cell phone users to have coverage?  I'm just trying to say a charger system build out is similar to other build outs which have happened so if the money gets off its ass it can happen in my time frame.

It won’t.
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:50 pm

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I post an article about recharge times dropping to 10 minutes this year and your response is recharge times are still going to be a problem?  I'm not understanding your thinking here.

As for building out a charging network that isn't a technical issue at all.  Just a matter of investment and time.  For a similar technical revolution how long did it take to build out cell phone towers, which have to be line of sight to cell phone users to have coverage?  I'm just trying to say a charger system build out is similar to other build outs which have happened so if the money gets off its ass it can happen in my time frame.

It won’t.

Maybe not you, but there were posters who were saying we wouldn't be seeing electric cars on the roads in our lifetimes a few years ago, when I was saying "wait until 2025 to 2026", or if we were they wouldn't have the range to be practical.

Building out the charging systems are just the next obvious step in the technical revolution to electric transportation and there are too many stakeholders in the process for it not to happen. That part of the infrastructure is going through typical growing pains right now, forsure.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:37 pm

aualum06 wrote:[tw]1803488600920825969?t=E9dhOqyW0EV-g6lH_rLm5g&s=19[/tw]

What the fuck, there's already a thread for this. I humbly request a merge

https://spartanswill.forumotion.com/t26052-the-christofascists-strike-again
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:38 am

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
aualum06 wrote:[tw]1803488600920825969?t=E9dhOqyW0EV-g6lH_rLm5g&s=19[/tw]

What the fuck, there's already a thread for this. I humbly request a merge

https://spartanswill.forumotion.com/t26052-the-christofascists-strike-again
agree.

the mods need to merge the two threads the way republicans/libertarians somehow merge their guns and bible fetishes.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:21 am

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Post by Jake from State Farm Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:21 am

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Thing is though that as it matures electric with be both higher performance and less expensive than ICE.  With much of the innovation happening in China the US will be sucking hind tit.

edit - I see articles like the one attached seveal times each day.  Either  companies are way overhyping their development progess or they are getting to parity refill times verses gas tanks faster than anyone expected.

If so the limiting factor for the EV market is becoming charging stations, not vehicle capabilities.

https://insideevs.com/news/723788/byd-catl-lfp-battery-6c-charging-10-minutes/amp/

I agree. With some exceptions, range has become a non-issue. Charging infrastructure is a shit show, though. And I know you disagree, but I think that's gonna take WAY longer than 2-10 years to fix. Improvements in time to recharge, as well as ubiquity and reliability need to be addressed. Gas pumps have a 100+ year head start, so it's gonna be tough.

Horses had a several thousand year head start and we all know how that worked out.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:35 am

Jake from State Farm wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

I agree.  With some exceptions, range has become a non-issue.  Charging infrastructure is a shit show, though.  And I know you disagree, but I think that's gonna take WAY longer than 2-10 years to fix.  Improvements in time to recharge, as well as ubiquity and reliability need to be addressed.  Gas pumps have a 100+ year head start, so it's gonna be tough.

Horses had a several thousand year head start and we all know how that worked out.
though it does explain why we always hear republicans/libertarians saying things like "back when life was simple" in the good 'ol US of A.

we all know what "back when life was simple" is a euphemism for.. just as we know what "Make America Great Again" really means to them.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:42 am

Is the Supreme Court going to tie themselves in knots by overturning their previous ruling on this or are they just gonna say fuch it, the First Amendment doesn't really mean what it says it means?
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:46 am

Jake from State Farm wrote:Is the Supreme Court going to tie themselves in knots by overturning their previous ruling on this or are they just gonna say fuch it, the First Amendment doesn't really mean what it says it means?

The Republicans voted this in as a test case for that.  One would expect they wouldn't have bothered if they didn't know if they had the votes on the court to make this stick.

This could be an attack on the interpretation of the 14th, which now is interpreted to mean that all the US Laws apply to the states. If the court decides that isn't the case, then nellie bar the door.
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