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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-09-06, 08:57

I'm still perplexed by being so fragile, so afraid of my shadow that I need a loaded gun to feel safe.

oh well - just one of the multitude of things that I don't understand about the republican/libertarian patriots.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 09:00

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm still perplexed by being so fragile, so afraid of my shadow that I need a loaded gun to feel safe.

oh well - just one of the multitude of things that I don't understand about life.

FIFY
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm still perplexed by being so fragile, so afraid of my shadow that I need a loaded gun to feel safe.

oh well - just one of the multitude of things that I don't understand about life.

FIFY
enjoy being afraid of your own shadow.. and don't forget to take the Jell-O mold to the church social Sunday.

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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-09-06, 09:05

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm still perplexed by being so fragile, so afraid of my shadow that I need a loaded gun to feel safe.

oh well - just one of the multitude of things that I don't understand about the republican/libertarian patriots.

TM claims he needs a handgun to kill the wild beasts he sees on his daily electric bike rides in Colorado.

Wouldn't it be more sensible to just ride in the other direction, or in places where those wild beasts aren't.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 09:06

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-09-06, 09:06

Trapper Gus wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm still perplexed by being so fragile, so afraid of my shadow that I need a loaded gun to feel safe.

oh well - just one of the multitude of things that I don't understand about the republican/libertarian patriots.

TM claims he needs a handgun to kill the wild beasts he sees on his daily electric bike rides in Colorado.

Wouldn't it be more sensible to just ride in the other direction, or in places where those wild beasts aren't.
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with any luck, he'll get home from riding his e-bike to the news of another school shooting.

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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 09:07

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm still perplexed by being so fragile, so afraid of my shadow that I need a loaded gun to feel safe.

oh well - just one of the multitude of things that I don't understand about the republican/libertarian patriots.

TM claims he needs a handgun to kill the wild beasts he sees on his daily electric bike rides in Colorado.

Wouldn't it be more sensible to just ride in the other direction, or in places where those wild beasts aren't.

Like where, exactly? Miami? Congrats to "Pro Life" Republicans/Libertarians and the NRA.. Back To School Means School Shootings..  - Page 3 502811600

Calm down, city boy. You don't know anything about me.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-09-06, 09:19

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Trapper Gus wrote:

TM claims he needs a handgun to kill the wild beasts he sees on his daily electric bike rides in Colorado.

Wouldn't it be more sensible to just ride in the other direction, or in places where those wild beasts aren't.

Like where, exactly?  Miami?  Congrats to "Pro Life" Republicans/Libertarians and the NRA.. Back To School Means School Shootings..  - Page 3 502811600

Calm down, city boy.  You don't know anything about me.

I've lived in wilder places than Colorado, and wild beasts generally avoid people, however there are nonviolent means which are better if one is encountered.  The best avoidance is riding in places they are not.

Just quoting what you have said on here, so unless you were lying you are flipflopping?
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 09:29

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TravelinMan wrote:

Like where, exactly?  Miami?  Congrats to "Pro Life" Republicans/Libertarians and the NRA.. Back To School Means School Shootings..  - Page 3 502811600

Calm down, city boy.  You don't know anything about me.

I've lived in wilder places than Colorado, and wild beasts generally avoid people, however there are nonviolent means which are better if one is encountered.  The best avoidance is riding in places they are not.

Just quoting what you have said on here, so unless you were lying you are flipflopping?

Well since you clearly know me and where I live and have SO much more experience living in places than me, I'll uh... take that under advisement along with my guilt about killing thousands of kids. Thanks!
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-09-06, 09:42

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Trapper Gus wrote:

I've lived in wilder places than Colorado, and wild beasts generally avoid people, however there are nonviolent means which are better if one is encountered.  The best avoidance is riding in places they are not.

Just quoting what you have said on here, so unless you were lying you are flipflopping?

Well since you clearly know me and where I live and have SO much more experience living in places than me, I'll uh... take that under advisement along with my guilt about killing thousands of kids. Thanks!

I only know what you have told us, so if I know you so well it is because of you.

Your acceptance of the murder of thousands of children so you can "feel" safe riding your e-bike (with broken knees) in wild areas does say you have fucked up priorities, but we all know you hate children.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 09:43

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TravelinMan wrote:

Well since you clearly know me and where I live and have SO much more experience living in places than me, I'll uh... take that under advisement along with my guilt about killing thousands of kids. Thanks!

I only know what you have told us, so if I know you so well it is because of you.

Your acceptance of the murder of thousands of children so you can "feel" safe riding your e-bike (with broken knees) in wild areas does say you have fucked up priorities, but we all know you hate children.

I do hate children, that's true.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-09-06, 09:46

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Trapper Gus wrote:

I've lived in wilder places than Colorado, and wild beasts generally avoid people, however there are nonviolent means which are better if one is encountered.  The best avoidance is riding in places they are not.

Just quoting what you have said on here, so unless you were lying you are flipflopping?

Well since you clearly know me and where I live and have SO much more experience living in places than me, I'll uh... take that under advisement along with my guilt about killing thousands of kids. Thanks!

I probably have the advantage of being a child in a wild area. They didn't let children have guns for wild beast protection, back in the day, but taught us what to do if we and the beasties came together.
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TravelinMan wrote:

Well since you clearly know me and where I live and have SO much more experience living in places than me, I'll uh... take that under advisement along with my guilt about killing thousands of kids. Thanks!

I probably have the advantage of being a child in a wild area. They didn't let children have guns for wild beast protection, back in the day, but taught us what to do if we and the beasties came together.

Your vast knowledge base on a myriad of topics never ceases to amaze.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-09-06, 09:48

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Trapper Gus wrote:

I only know what you have told us, so if I know you so well it is because of you.

Your acceptance of the murder of thousands of children so you can "feel" safe riding your e-bike (with broken knees) in wild areas does say you have fucked up priorities, but we all know you hate children.

I do hate children, that's true.

You position on Ban Guns is consistent with that, though you don't seem to have the courage of your convictions
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Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Well since you clearly know me and where I live and have SO much more experience living in places than me, I'll uh... take that under advisement along with my guilt about killing thousands of kids. Thanks!

I probably have the advantage of being a child in a wild area. They didn't let children have guns for wild beast protection, back in the day, but taught us what to do if we and the beasties came together.
you'd get no sleep 'til Brooklyn?
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Trapper Gus wrote:

I probably have the advantage of being a child in a wild area. They didn't let children have guns for wild beast protection, back in the day, but taught us what to do if we and the beasties came together.

Your vast knowledge base on a myriad of topics never ceases to amaze.

Everyone has vast knowledge, I'm just the sharing sort.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-09-06, 09:50

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I probably have the advantage of being a child in a wild area. They didn't let children have guns for wild beast protection, back in the day, but taught us what to do if we and the beasties came together.
you'd get no sleep 'til Brooklyn?

Knowing Bob that has to be a musical quote...
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Post by Cameron 2024-09-06, 09:50

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TravelinMan wrote:

Your vast knowledge base on a myriad of topics never ceases to amaze.

Everyone has vast knowledge, I'm just the sharing sort.


Everyone most certainly does not have vast knowledge. Have you met everyone?
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Trapper Gus wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
you'd get no sleep 'til Brooklyn?

Knowing Bob that has to be a musical quote...

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Robert J Sakimano wrote: you'd get no sleep 'til Brooklyn?

Knowing Bob that has to be a musical quote...
behold..

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Trapper Gus wrote:

Everyone has vast knowledge, I'm just the sharing sort.


Everyone most certainly does not have vast knowledge. Have you met everyone?

Of course not.

I'm of the mind that I am one of the least informed people in the world, and based on what I do know everyone else must have vast knowledge.
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Cameron wrote:


Everyone most certainly does not have vast knowledge. Have you met everyone?

Of course not.

I'm of the mind that I am one of the least informed people in the world, and based on what I do know everyone else must have vast knowledge.

And yet that doesn't dissuade you from being the sharing type. How curious.
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Everyone most certainly does not have vast knowledge. Have you met everyone?

Of course not.

I'm of the mind that I am one of the least informed people in the world, and based on what I do know everyone else must have vast knowledge.

You don't comport yourself like someone who believes themselves to be one of the least informed.
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Cameron wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Of course not.

I'm of the mind that I am one of the least informed people in the world, and based on what I do know everyone else must have vast knowledge.

You don't comport yourself like someone who believes themselves to be one of the least informed.
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(aside from Springsteen, running, cycling, mountain biking.. ya know, the important stuff).
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Of course not.

I'm of the mind that I am one of the least informed people in the world, and based on what I do know everyone else must have vast knowledge.

And yet that doesn't dissuade you from being the sharing type. How curious.

I am a Pollyanna who keeps hoping for enlightment from others, however I have given up on most of you who apparently wouldn't know a counterfactual if it jumped out of the bushes in front of you.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 11:03

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

And yet that doesn't dissuade you from being the sharing type. How curious.

I am a Pollyanna who keeps hoping for enlightment from others, however I have given up on most of you who apparently wouldn't know a counterfactual if it jumped out of the bushes in front of you.

At least I can detect sarcasm.
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just coming back in to remind people that Vance's "fact of life" quote amplifies the fact that republicans/libertarians don't care about Americans, nor do they have a plan to help make the quality of life for Americans any better.

all they have is fear, outrage, paranoia, hate and division.

and it's obvious from our republican/libertarian posters here.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-09-06, 11:06

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:Student to authorities last year...

"I'm going to shoot up my highschool."

Authorities, "That's not enough to provide treatment."

WTF?  Once again we had a warning and it still happened.

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-high-school-shooting-c3c97267a4dfff64a59e1605e515c2f9

Ban Guns

We had warning with the Oxford shooter, too.  But parents either don't care, or want to protect their precious snowflake, and school districts are too scared to act for fear of being sued.  There are a lot of problems in America surrounding the nuclear family and the educational system.  But it's far easier to blame guns.  

The correct answer is all of the above and that's a hard thing to address.  Guns are an easy target but they are not a scape goat as you imply.  They are a big part of the problem too.
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We had warning with the Oxford shooter, too.  But parents either don't care, or want to protect their precious snowflake, and school districts are too scared to act for fear of being sued.  There are a lot of problems in America surrounding the nuclear family and the educational system.  But it's far easier to blame guns.  

The correct answer is all of the above and that's a hard thing to address.  Guns are an easy target but they are not a scape goat as you imply.  They are a big part of the problem too.

If we had a year's warning that this little shit was a monster, and there was warning that morning of an immanent attack, and the authorities and/or his parents STILL couldn't stop him, then yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe getting rid of guns is the only answer. Clearly police work isn't getting it done.
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The correct answer is all of the above and that's a hard thing to address.  Guns are an easy target but they are not a scape goat as you imply.  They are a big part of the problem too.

If we had a year's warning that this little shit was a monster, and there was warning that morning of an immanent attack, and the authorities and/or his parents STILL couldn't stop him, then yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe getting rid of guns is the only answer. Clearly police work isn't getting it done.

This (I think) suburban 14 year old isn't getting a gun to use if his idiot parent didn't have them available. I assume that's where he got it since I read he's being charged. Say what you will about the likelihood of laws being passed that would prevent the dad from getting a gun. But in this case the absence of a gun nearby may have possibly stopped this one.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-09-06, 12:20

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If we had a year's warning that this little shit was a monster, and there was warning that morning of an immanent attack, and the authorities and/or his parents STILL couldn't stop him, then yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe getting rid of guns is the only answer. Clearly police work isn't getting it done.

This (I think) suburban 14 year old isn't getting a gun to use if his idiot parent didn't have them available. I assume that's where he got it since I read he's being charged. Say what you will about the likelihood of laws being passed that would prevent the dad from getting a gun. But in this case the absence of a gun nearby may have possibly stopped this one.
I know it's inconvenient for the 'pro-life' republican/libertarians who celebrate school shootings to hear it, but guns are the common thread in shootings.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 12:26

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This (I think) suburban 14 year old isn't getting a gun to use if his idiot parent didn't have them available. I assume that's where he got it since I read he's being charged. Say what you will about the likelihood of laws being passed that would prevent the dad from getting a gun. But in this case the absence of a gun nearby may have possibly stopped this one.
I know it's inconvenient for the 'pro-life' republican/libertarians who celebrate school shootings to hear it, but guns are the common thread in shootings.

Kids are the common thread in school shootings. Maybe we should outlaw kids?
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Post by GRR Spartan 2024-09-06, 12:30

TravelinMan still trolling and making jokes about killers ages.

So typical.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-09-06, 12:30

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Robert J Sakimano wrote: I know it's inconvenient for the 'pro-life' republican/libertarians who celebrate school shootings to hear it, but guns are the common thread in shootings.

Kids are the common thread in school shootings. Maybe we should outlaw kids?
I know that would be something anti-female republicans/libertarians like yourself would really enjoy - controlling women and their reproductive rights..

but if you're willing to control women and their rights before you are your guns, then that tell us all we need to know about you.

which, of course, we already knew.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-09-06, 12:41

They could potentially vote on restricting access to guns in Georgia if you meet certain red flags or criteria.

But their representative in congress is out there in a campaign ad shooting up voting machines.

Start with him.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-09-06, 12:43

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Robert J Sakimano wrote: I know it's inconvenient for the 'pro-life' republican/libertarians who celebrate school shootings to hear it, but guns are the common thread in shootings.

Kids are the common thread in school shootings. Maybe we should outlaw kids?

As I said, the issues in this country are all of the above. We need to make it harder to get guns to reduce their number. There needs to be a LOT more training where safety is drilled into the individual over a long period of time and paid at the expense of the individual. In addition to red flag/psychological screenings. Not impossible to pass if you really want or need a gun, also sufficient time and expense to deter the people buying a gun on a whim, and gives the best shot the person will actually follow safety measures instead of being lazy.
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TravelinMan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: I know it's inconvenient for the 'pro-life' republican/libertarians who celebrate school shootings to hear it, but guns are the common thread in shootings.

Kids are the common thread in school shootings. Maybe we should outlaw kids?

As I said, the issues in this country are all of the above. We need to make it harder to get guns to reduce their number. There needs to be a LOT more training where safety is drilled into the individual over a long period of time and paid at the expense of the individual. In addition to red flag/psychological screenings. Not impossible to pass if you really want or need a gun, also sufficient time and expense to deter the people buying a gun on a whim, and gives the best shot the person will actually follow safety measures instead of being lazy.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2024-09-06, 13:03

Father of the GA shooter is a product of 3 decades of NRA pushing gun rights emphasis of gun ownership while the NRA's original mission of gun safety.  

But he's also an indifferent twit incapable of 2nd stage thought who refused to acknowledge any connect of his son excessive interest in the Parkland HS shootings in Feb 2018 where 17 died and 17 were wounded.  The "Not my son" attitude would be the only explanation of buying his son a hunting rifle based on the A-15 design.

We have to register our vehicles including motorcycles, off road ATV's, boats and the trailers that carry them.

There is no reason we can't require the same type of registration upon new purchases from retailers and sales of pre-owned from dealers or private individuals like we do when if we buy a pre-owned motor vehicle or trailer.

Mastercard/Visa and Discover already track the purchase of guns and quantities of ammunition in other countries.  The amount of ammunition varies according to a country's laws.  

Had the US had that in place the 17 year old in Uvalde TX wouldn't have been to buy his guns and ammunition using a credit card.  The shooter at Mandalay Bay had purchased 24 weapons and 1000's of rounds of ammunition with zero records of his purchases. Same with Sandy Hook where the killer's mother bought guns and ammunition.

My solution is require gun registration.  If already you own a gun and choose to sell it, the gun gets registered.  Any new gun purchases get national registration.  

BUT THE GUBMENT WILL TAKE MY GUNS.  No because there are too damned many unregistered guns floating around.

The other part of the solution is you are responsible for your guns.  If it's stolen and used in the commission of a crime, better hire a lawyer because you could be going to jail for at least a year on a felony charge and 5 years probation after that.  That does away with the "They weren't taking their meds and took my gun" excuse etc..  You are truly responsible for your weapons.


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Post by TravelinMan 2024-09-06, 13:35

GRR Spartan wrote:Father of the GA shooter is a product of 3 decades of NRA pushing gun rights emphasis of gun ownership while the NRA's original mission of gun safety.

But he's also an indifferent twit incapable of 2nd stage thought who refused to acknowledge any connect of his son excessive interest in the Parkland HS shootings in Feb 2018 where 17 died and 17 were wounded. The "Not my son" attitude would be the only explanation of buying his son a hunting rifle based on the A-15 design.

We have to register our vehicles including motorcycles, off road ATV's, boats and the trailers that carry them.

There is no reason we can't require the same type of registration upon new purchases from retailers and sales of pre-owned from dealers or private individuals like we do when if we buy a pre-owned motor vehicle or trailer.

Mastercard/Visa and Discover already track the purchase of guns and quantities of ammunition in other countries. The amount of ammunition varies according to a country's laws.

Had the US had that in place the 17 year old in Uvalde TX wouldn't have been to buy his guns and ammunition using a credit card. The shooter at Mandalay Bay had purchased 24 weapons and 1000's of rounds of ammunition with zero records of his purchases. Same with Sandy Hook where the killer's mother bought guns and ammunition.

My solution is require gun registration. If already you own a gun and choose to sell it, the gun gets registered. Any new gun purchases get national registration.

BUT THE GUBMENT WILL TAKE MY GUNS. No because there are too damned many unregistered guns floating around.

The other you are responsible for your guns. If it's stolen and used in the commission of a crime, better hire a lawyer because you could be going to jail for at least a year on a felony charge and 5 years probation after that. That does away with the "They weren't taking their meds and took my gun" excuse etc.. You are truly responsible for your weapons.

It's a shame we can't require registration/training/permits to breed.
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