Re: The Golf Thread

[tGreenWay]

Pointless article and a cheap shot, but Phil should be bigger than this. It’s beyond old news, and that’s all he had to say. He’s become a giant in the game in the 23 years since, and this should’ve been water off a duck’s back. At least Mickelson knows what it feels like to get MSU treatment.

[steveschneider]

Pointless article and a cheap shot, but Phil should be bigger than this. It’s beyond old news, and that’s all he had to say. He’s become a giant in the game in the 23 years since, and this should’ve been water off a duck’s back. At least Mickelson knows what it feels like to get MSU treatment.

Couldn’t agree more.

[DWags]

Pointless article and a cheap shot, but Phil should be bigger than this. It’s beyond old news, and that’s all he had to say. He’s become a giant in the game in the 23 years since, and this should’ve been water off a duck’s back. At least Mickelson knows what it feels like to get MSU treatment.

Journalism is dead. It’s hateful.

[steveschneider]

Pointless article and a cheap shot, but Phil should be bigger than this. It’s beyond old news, and that’s all he had to say. He’s become a giant in the game in the 23 years since, and this should’ve been water off a duck’s back. At least Mickelson knows what it feels like to get MSU treatment.

Journalism is dead. It’s hateful.

Yep, the industry is in a death spiral. I'm just glad Phil wasn't subjected to Rob Parker.

[NigelUno]

Why punish Rocker Mortgage and the city of Detroit over the Det News article?

He's at a point in his career where he can pick and choose events.

DetNews made it easy for him not to pick this one anymore.

[steveschneider]

Why punish Rocker Mortgage and the city of Detroit over the Det News article?

He's at a point in his career where he can pick and choose events.

DetNews made it easy for him not to pick this one anymore.

Yeah, and the editor Chad Livengood on twitter going after Phil as well. Not a good day for the Det News. Looked at Tony Paul's twitter as well dude is out covering the tour and gets like 1 to 2 likes per tweet.

I did see Mike Sullivan tweeting back and forth with Phil. Sullivan was trying to raise money for Phil. Interesting day for golf and the city of Detroit.

[steveschneider]

I have some golf results to report.

Indian Hills shot a 47
Groesbeck 108 (they had us start out on the back 9, it was hot as fuck and I shot terrible, broke 50 on the back 9)
Pine Hills Laingsburg shot a 100 (I'll self report I had a very early tee time and had to do a breakfast ball I was so tight...second shot wasn't that much better I had to punch out)
Groesbeck front 9 shot a 50
IndianHills shot a 48.

Out of all those outtings I took a breakfast ball in Laingsburg and that was it. Played legit golf. On hole 17 I missed a 2 foot put for birdie and the last hole absolutely devoured me. I would have broke 100 otherwise.

I will say this, Indian Hills is a really fun round. It's quick and the course looks great. I love the tree lined holes, the shade and the gardens.

[duffy munn]

I have some golf results to report.

Indian Hills shot a 47
Groesbeck 108 (they had us start out on the back 9, it was hot as fuck and I shot terrible, broke 50 on the back 9)
Pine Hills Laingsburg shot a 100 (I'll self report I had a very early tee time and had to do a breakfast ball I was so tight...second shot wasn't that much better I had to punch out)
Groesbeck front 9 shot a 50
IndianHills shot a 48.

Out of all those outtings I took a breakfast ball in Laingsburg and that was it. Played legit golf. On hole 17 I missed a 2 foot put for birdie and the last hole absolutely devoured me. I would have broke 100 otherwise.

I will say this, Indian Hills is a really fun round. It's quick and the course looks great. I love the tree lined holes, the shade and the gardens.

I thought I already commented on this but will try again.

Well done fucking Steve but bear in mind those are among the easiest course you can play in the area. Can I ask which tees ( or total course distance) you played? Good thing is you now have a more realistic idea of where your game stands.

also remember that same game at Hawk Hollow, Akers West or Timber Ridge is likely in the mid 120's. Or higher. Either way keep grinding. It's the greatest game.

[aualum06]

Played the fortress in Frankenmuth today, probably the nicest taken care of course I've played

[steveschneider]

I have some golf results to report.

Indian Hills shot a 47
Groesbeck 108 (they had us start out on the back 9, it was hot as fuck and I shot terrible, broke 50 on the back 9)
Pine Hills Laingsburg shot a 100 (I'll self report I had a very early tee time and had to do a breakfast ball I was so tight...second shot wasn't that much better I had to punch out)
Groesbeck front 9  shot a 50
IndianHills shot a 48.

Out of all those outtings I took a breakfast ball in Laingsburg and that was it. Played legit golf. On hole 17 I missed a 2 foot put for birdie and the last hole absolutely devoured me. I would have broke 100 otherwise.

I will say this, Indian Hills is a really fun round. It's quick and the course looks great. I love the tree lined holes, the shade and the gardens.

I thought I already commented on this but will try again.

Well done fucking Steve but bear in mind those are among the easiest course you can play in the area. Can I ask which tees ( or total course distance) you played? Good thing is you now have a more realistic idea of where your game stands.

also remember that same game at Hawk Hollow, Akers West or Timber Ridge is likely in the mid 120's. Or higher. Either way keep grinding. It's the greatest game.

Played the white tees. Didn't think Pine Hills was that easy to be honest. The last two holes were tough and the rough with all the clover in it made it tough to find balls.

Indian Hills is easy but man that's a fun course to play. I though there was one par 3 at Groesbeck that was pretty damn tough, you had to hit uphill over water and I think it was about 195.

I also think if you give me a range to warm up on I take about 2-4 strokes off my score. That day at Groesbeck if the conditions weren't so hot and it wasn't so log jammed and I'm warmed up I think I finish around 100. My best day I break it.

[steveschneider]

Played the fortress in Frankenmuth today, probably the nicest taken care of course I've played

I'll keep that in mind for my next visit. I really enjoy the golf in Michigan.

[steveschneider]

One note about my score at Greosbeck the day I shot a 50. I was well on my way to shooting under 50. They had a crew in the middle of the fairway working on draining some standing water. I know golf is mental but that killed me. I was going to hit right behind them and the guy was telling me to go ahead without moving. Entire shot I was worried I'd hit one and it completely fucked me up. I accept the score I shot but that was a very unusual circumstance I don't face often. Looking back the correct answer imo was to recognize I'm tense and anxious and just use one of my easier clubs like a PW and just settle for a good safe advance of the ball.

[kingstonlake]

Played the fortress in Frankenmuth today, probably the nicest taken care of course I've played

It's pretty good. Played about five times. Kind of a blah layout but I can appreciate that they take care of it.

[aualum06]

Played the fortress in Frankenmuth today, probably the nicest taken care of course I've played

It's pretty good. Played about five times. Kind of a blah layout but I can appreciate that they take care of it.

Yeah it's definitely a tight course and all the holes are kind of the same. I work with a guy that mows the greens so got a deal and that's a step up in course quality for me

[steveschneider]

Increased my yardage on my drive significantly. Turn the hips first folks. Group I golfed with I had three drives that got ‘wows’ from the group. Getting about 280 - 290.

[duffy munn]

Increased my yardage on my drive significantly. Turn the hips first folks. Group I golfed with I had three drives that got ‘wows’ from the group. Getting about 280 - 290.

Turn the hips first? Sorry fucking Steve but this will lead to some wildly inaccurate shots

[steveschneider]

Increased my yardage on my drive significantly. Turn the hips first folks. Group I golfed with I had three drives that got ‘wows’ from the group. Getting about 280 - 290.

Turn the hips first? Sorry fucking Steve but this will lead to some wildly inaccurate shots

Of course there’s always a room for a bad shot. It’s definitely increased my power. I will concede it probably hasn’t lowered my score. I still get down with about the same amount of strokes if my drive was forty yards shorter.

[duffy munn]

Turn the hips first? Sorry fucking Steve but this will lead to some wildly inaccurate shots

Of course there’s always a room for a bad shot. It’s definitely increased my power. I will concede it probably hasn’t lowered my score. I still get down with about the same amount of strokes if my drive was forty yards shorter.

I've played with a ton of guys who can bomb it but have zero idea where it's going. It's fun to watch when they nut one 300 yards in the fairway 3 out of 20 times but the other 17 usually lead to double, triple or worse. In other words fucking Steve, stop turning the hips first and work on getting the ball in play and then in the hole.

[steveschneider]

Of course there’s always a room for a bad shot. It’s definitely increased my power. I will concede it probably hasn’t lowered my score. I still get down with about the same amount of strokes if my drive was forty yards shorter.

I've played with a ton of guys who can bomb it but have zero idea where it's going. It's fun to watch when they nut one 300 yards in the fairway 3 out of 20 times but the other 17 usually lead to double, triple or worse. In other words fucking Steve, stop turning the hips first and work on getting the ball in play and then in the hole.

I'm far from a mistake free golfer but these drives were good and I had a decent shot from the ball positions off the drive. It was one of those days where I was on with that club. My big problem Saturday was without a doubt the chipping and one hole ate me alive. A par five up a steep hill, undulated green and a narrow tree lined fairway. Shot a 12 on it but my drive was good.

If you have any instruction you'd recommend for wedge shots about 20 yards out I'm all ears. I could definitely use it.

[InTenSity]

I've played with a ton of guys who can bomb it but have zero idea where it's going. It's fun to watch when they nut one 300 yards in the fairway 3 out of 20 times but the other 17 usually lead to double, triple or worse. In other words fucking Steve, stop turning the hips first and work on getting the ball in play and then in the hole.

I'm far from a mistake free golfer but these drives were good and I had a decent shot from the ball positions off the drive. It was one of those days where I was on with that club. My big problem Saturday was without a doubt the chipping and one hole ate me alive. A par five up a steep hill, undulated green and a narrow tree lined fairway. Shot a 12 on it but my drive was good.

If you have any instruction you'd recommend for wedge shots about 20 yards out I'm all ears. I could definitely use it.

I use an 8 iron from 20 yards out depending on the lie. If its in the fairway without any obstruction to the green, definitely a bump and run. In the rough to get over sand traps, I've had some success, if the ball isn't a tight light on the ground, of getting a flop shot over. Putting is another option, if the fairway is nice and not uphill the whole way.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

I have a 64 degree that’s glorious from about 20 yards out. If you hit it right, it’s going to be basically impossible to hit it longer than like, I dunno, 35 ish yards. Pretty much just stops where it lands also. The only issue I have with it is when I’m like 10 yards out, in the rough and there’s a hill or a trap between me and the green, so I need that club, but it’s easy to pull back too much on the throttle and end up hitting it 3 feet

[DWags]

I have a 64 degree that’s glorious from about 20 yards out. If you hit it right, it’s going to be basically impossible to hit it longer than like, I dunno, 35 ish yards. Pretty much just stops where it lands also. The only issue I have with it is when I’m like 10 yards out, in the rough and there’s a hill or a trap between me and the green, so I need that club, but it’s easy to pull back too much on the throttle and end up hitting it 3 feet

I’d hit it and it would go directly to the right and miraculously role forty mor yards.

[steveschneider]

I'm far from a mistake free golfer but these drives were good and I had a decent shot from the ball positions off the drive. It was one of those days where I was on with that club. My big problem Saturday was without a doubt the chipping and one hole ate me alive. A par five up a steep hill, undulated green and a narrow tree lined fairway. Shot a 12 on it but my drive was good.

If you have any instruction you'd recommend for wedge shots about 20 yards out I'm all ears. I could definitely use it.

I use an 8 iron from 20 yards out depending on the lie. If its in the fairway without any obstruction to the green, definitely a bump and run. In the rough to get over sand traps, I've had some success, if the ball isn't a tight light on the ground, of getting a flop shot over. Putting is another option, if the fairway is nice and not uphill the whole way.

I definitely try to keep loft out of the equation whenever I can. I think I got that off a Rick Shiels video. I definitely use my 8 iron a lot for shots like that.

@Travis the 64 sounds crazy. I do a similar shot with my 60 from about 40 yards out. When it works the ball goes really high and just bombs straight down to the green.

From about 20 yards out I still have moments where I get down 4 strokes. Three putting and screwing up chips is a problem.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

64 pretty much is always going to come straight down at the green, unless you skull it like wags in which case it will not. It’s very helpful to not have to say to yourself things like “I need to hit this at about 50% power wait no 45% we’ll let’s make it 47.5%” then actually hit it at 65%. For the most part with that thing I just use my normal swing

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

anyone got any course suggestions around metro detroit?

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Metro Detroit is a big place bro. Lot of good courses but the first one that popped in my mind was links of novi

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Metro Detroit is a big place bro. Lot of good courses but the first one that popped in my mind was links of novi

yeah, i've played that. pretty tight fairways and nice. just looking to play tomorrow mid-day and was browsing tee times so hoping to find one

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Tanglewood down the street from there is good too.

I think. I’ve only been there once. At a certain point they blend together a bit

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

i've settled on Shepherd's Hollow travis

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Never been, let me know

[Travis of the Cosmos]

I went golfing up north (depending on your definition) at shanty creek this weekend. All 3 courses were really nice and had some unique and fun challenges that you don’t get around here. Mostly having to do with the various elevation changes they can bring into play there.

One that sticks out was a fairway shot to a thin green that was well below you, with a large bunker in the front and a huge downslope behind the green that ushers your ball straight into the woods. That one sticks out mostly because I nailed it.

That said, 54 holes of golf, but I chipped in from about 25 yards on 1, which I knew was always going to be the best thing I did all weekend, and I was right.

[tGreenWay]

Travis did you get your pga card?

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Travis did you get your pga card?

No, we played in a group of 5 so to not be the tremendous assholes that slowed everything up (and also so we didn’t get forced to separate like they did after the first 6 holes the first day) we mostly played 3 on 2 scrambles

That first hole was an all me birdie though, so that’s nice.

[InTenSity]

I went golfing up north (depending on your definition) at shanty creek this weekend. All 3 courses were really nice and had some unique and fun challenges that you don’t get around here. Mostly having to do with the various elevation changes they can bring into play there.

One that sticks out was a fairway shot to a thin green that was well below you, with a large bunker in the front and a huge downslope behind the green that ushers your ball straight into the woods. That one sticks out mostly because I nailed it.

That said, 54 holes of golf, but I chipped in from about 25 yards on 1, which I knew was always going to be the best thing I did all weekend, and I was right.

Shanty and Schuss have 5 courses now. Shanty, Legend, Cedar River, Shuss Mnt and Hawks Eye. Which 3 did you play? I like all of them and actually played Shanty for the first time in probably 20 years. My daughter was able to play 9 holes on that course. I didn't get to play Cedar River this year though, just didn't work out.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Hawks eye, cedar river, and schuss mountain. Listed in my my ranking order.

Schuss was fine, and if you plop it in metro Detroit it’s a really well maintained course, so don’t get me wrong. It just didn’t feel quite as nice as the other two

[InTenSity]

I'm trying to think what course you are talking about with the green that is protected by the bunker and slopes down after. I didn't get to play the back 9 at Schuss, but don't recall a green like that. It's probably Hawkseye, but that course in general is tough. If you remember, jog my memory for me.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

It was hawkseye and I want to say it was like 12 or so

[tGreenWay]

Travis did you get your pga card?

No, we played in a group of 5 so to not be the tremendous assholes that slowed everything up (and also so we didn’t get forced to separate like they did after the first 6 holes the first day) we mostly played 3 on 2 scrambles

That first hole was an all me birdie though, so that’s nice.

That’s awesome. Congratulations on getting your pga card.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Looking at the map I’m pretty confident it was 6. The pin was right between those two bunkers, and that rough area in front of the green is just a downslope all the way to it

[tGreenWay]

Hawks eye, cedar river, and schuss mountain. Listed in my my ranking order.

Schuss was fine, and if you plop it in metro Detroit it’s a really well maintained course, so don’t get me wrong. It just didn’t feel quite as nice as the other two

This is silly. Golf courses aren’t like houses, Travis; you can’t just pick one up and move it somewhere else. Man, the pga will let anybody in.

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