Re: The Golf Thread

[steveschneider]

Yeah, but at least I'm shooting in the 90's and on a good day in the mid 80's.

No you're not. C'mon Steve.

It was a joke.

But I am seriously a sub 100 golfer at this point. If I warm up on the range and do a little putting I break 100 at this point in my game.

Here's Steve's guide to improve golf scores (without cheating):

1) at range 85% of balls in bucket practice 100 yard, 75 yard and 50 yard shots. Always aim at targets

2) off tee stop giving a shit about distance focus on hitting the fairway. I'll trade up 30-40 yards for accuracy.

3) around the greens give up the Phil Mickelson 60 degree wedge fantasies and do the shot that will put the ball safely on the green. Your goal is to get the putter in your hands.

4) When you go out of bounds take your medicine and punch it back to the fairway.

I won't have those exciting shots but it improves the score big time. I play par/bogey golf with this method.

[DWags]

I keep track of everything with the exception of placing a ball down that I won’t find and have no intention of being a dick and using five minutes to look for it. If we all agree in general area I drop and don’t add a stroke. I lose 3-5 balls per outing. So if you want to turn my 105 into a 110 go ahead. I don’t hold up my partners or the people behind me. And if you’re the guy who searches for 7 minutes in front of me, I might tee off. I suck enough where I probably won’t hit you.

[steveschneider]

I keep track of everything with the exception of placing a ball down that I won’t find and have no intention of being a dick and using five minutes to look for it. If we all agree in general area I drop and don’t add a stroke. I lose 3-5 balls per outing. So if you want to turn my 105 into a 110 go ahead. I don’t hold up my partners or the people behind me. And if you’re the guy who searches for 7 minutes in front of me, I might tee off. I suck enough where I probably won’t hit you.

Good stuff.

[NigelUno]

I never liked scrambles because I couldn't play my own balls.

You must not hit many good shots then.

[kingstonlake]

How many mulligans do you use on the range, Steve?

[steveschneider]

How many mulligans do you use on the range, Steve?

A large bucket of them.

[The Pantry]

I never liked scrambles because I couldn't play my own balls.

You must not hit many good shots then.

How clever, Karen.

[NigelUno]

You must not hit many good shots then.

How clever, Karen.

The truth isn't really clever. It's just the truth.

Hit better shots.

[The Pantry]

Okay, Karen.

[steveschneider]

Okay, Karen.

Broken record.

[steveschneider]

How clever, Karen.

The truth isn't really clever. It's just the truth.

Hit better shots.

He really needs to hit better shots. I would be good from the 100 yard marker in. Short game Steve!

[The Pantry]

Okay, Karen.

Broken record.

Please tell Bob.

[duffy munn]

Ok as a avid, passionate yet average player he my thoughts on this issue. do what you have to do to make the game fun. Please play the proper tees. It kills me to watch 25 handi's play the golf course from over 6500 yards.

Fluffing the ball and gimmies in a league or saturday mornings is fine. So is waiving stroke and distance on OB balls. Drop and take the penalty where the ball went out. It speeds up play. Two off the first tee (breakfast ball) is also fine. Multiple mullies are not

I play with guys all the time that pick up 10 footers when they are out of the hole. Then they brag on the 19th hole about their 82. I always say 82? I don't think you putted more than 10 times. I love this game.

[kingstonlake]

You must not hit many good shots then.

How clever, Karen.

So easy.

[kingstonlake]

Ok as a avid, passionate yet average player he my thoughts on this issue. do what you have to do to make the game fun. Please play the proper tees. It kills me to watch 25 handi's play the golf course from over 6500 yards.

Fluffing the ball and gimmies in a league or saturday mornings is fine. So is waiving stroke and distance on OB balls. Drop and take the penalty where the ball went out. It speeds up play. Two off the first tee (breakfast ball) is also fine. Multiple mullies are not

I play with guys all the time that pick up 10 footers when they are out of the hole. Then they brag on the 19th hole about their 82. I always say 82? I don't think you putted more than 10 times. I love this game.

Pretty much this. I ran my league that way. Only exception was bump your lie until Memorial Day. After that we play em down. OB is stroke and distance. Double par max per hole.

[tGreenWay]

I keep track of everything with the exception of placing a ball down that I won’t find and have no intention of being a dick and using five minutes to look for it. If we all agree in general area I drop and don’t add a stroke. I lose 3-5 balls per outing. So if you want to turn my 105 into a 110 go ahead. I don’t hold up my partners or the people behind me. And if you’re the guy who searches for 7 minutes in front of me, I might tee off. I suck enough where I probably won’t hit you.

At your age, you gotta do whatever you can to avoid strokes.

[tGreenWay]

Ok as a avid, passionate yet average player he my thoughts on this issue. do what you have to do to make the game fun. Please play the proper tees. It kills me to watch 25 handi's play the golf course from over 6500 yards.

Fluffing the ball and gimmies in a league or saturday mornings is fine. So is waiving stroke and distance on OB balls. Drop and take the penalty where the ball went out. It speeds up play. Two off the first tee (breakfast ball) is also fine. Multiple mullies are not

I play with guys all the time that pick up 10 footers when they are out of the hole. Then they brag on the 19th hole about their 82. I always say 82? I don't think you putted more than 10 times. I love this game.

Pretty much this. I ran my league that way. Only exception was bump your lie until Memorial Day. After that we play em down. OB is stroke and distance. Double par max per hole.

Ooh, fancy boy has his own league. Tell us more, commissioner.

[NigelUno]

Okay, Karen.

[kingstonlake]

Pretty much this. I ran my league that way. Only exception was bump your lie until Memorial Day. After that we play em down. OB is stroke and distance. Double par max per hole.

Ooh, fancy boy has his own league. Tell us more, commissioner.

I’ve told enough. And call me Consigliere

[tGreenWay]

Ooh, fancy boy has his own league. Tell us more, commissioner.

I’ve told enough. And call me Consigliere

Con for short.

[DWags]

Ok as a avid, passionate yet average player he my thoughts on this issue. do what you have to do to make the game fun. Please play the proper tees. It kills me to watch 25 handi's play the golf course from over 6500 yards.

Fluffing the ball and gimmies in a league or saturday mornings is fine. So is waiving stroke and distance on OB balls. Drop and take the penalty where the ball went out. It speeds up play. Two off the first tee (breakfast ball) is also fine. Multiple mullies are not

I play with guys all the time that pick up 10 footers when they are out of the hole. Then they brag on the 19th hole about their 82. I always say 82? I don't think you putted more than 10 times. I love this game.

No matter how drunk I am, I am always conscious of my partners and those behind us. I would rather help a playing partner with a good round find his ball then search for mine for the same amount of time. four eyes looking for a ball of a prtner doing well is better than two eyes looking for my shit when I turned at 50 plus.

If I ever turn under 45, fuck everyone of my partners or those behind me, I'm playing every stroke and adding time looking for any lost ball. I might use ten minutes.

[steveschneider]

Ok as a avid, passionate yet average player he my thoughts on this issue. do what you have to do to make the game fun. Please play the proper tees. It kills me to watch 25 handi's play the golf course from over 6500 yards.

Fluffing the ball and gimmies in a league or saturday mornings is fine. So is waiving stroke and distance on OB balls. Drop and take the penalty where the ball went out. It speeds up play. Two off the first tee (breakfast ball) is also fine. Multiple mullies are not

I play with guys all the time that pick up 10 footers when they are out of the hole. Then they brag on the 19th hole about their 82. I always say 82? I don't think you putted more than 10 times. I love this game.

Solid post and good to hear your insight. My take is I've done a lot of golfing at this point at various level of courses (executive/par 3 to exclusive club) and with various level of golfers (beginner to scratch).

I've seen it all at this point with regards to scoring. I think the best thing to do is just find a group and what everyone is comfortable with. I'm fortunate I have a group that is fun to golf with and I guess one critique is this group is pretty generous with the mulligans but the conversation and how enjoyable the time is on the course out weighs that gripe.

Here's my legit SOP for a round:

Breakfast ball absolutely. Will hit until I put one in play if I'm showing up cold.

Will allow one mulligan if there's something like a mower or unavoidable distraction. For example I golfed by West Point once and literally during my back swing I heard loud machine guns go off that screwed up my shot.

Gimme puts, I'll take them only if there's a group behind to speed shit up but I love to actually hear the ball drop.

Fluffing, I actually don't do this that often. I will be generous if there's course damage poor greens condition and move over to grass. I do hit out of divots.

[duffy munn]

Ok as a avid, passionate yet average player he my thoughts on this issue. do what you have to do to make the game fun. Please play the proper tees. It kills me to watch 25 handi's play the golf course from over 6500 yards.

Fluffing the ball and gimmies in a league or saturday mornings is fine. So is waiving stroke and distance on OB balls. Drop and take the penalty where the ball went out. It speeds up play. Two off the first tee (breakfast ball) is also fine. Multiple mullies are not

I play with guys all the time that pick up 10 footers when they are out of the hole. Then they brag on the 19th hole about their 82. I always say 82? I don't think you putted more than 10 times. I love this game.

Solid post and good to hear your insight. My take is I've done a lot of golfing at this point at various level of courses (executive/par 3 to exclusive club) and with various level of golfers (beginner to scratch).

I've seen it all at this point with regards to scoring. I think the best thing to do is just find a group and what everyone is comfortable with. I'm fortunate I have a group that is fun to golf with and I guess one critique is this group is pretty generous with the mulligans but the conversation and how enjoyable the time is on the course out weighs that gripe.

Here's my legit SOP for a round:

Breakfast ball absolutely. Will hit until I put one in play if I'm showing up cold.

Will allow one mulligan if there's something like a mower or unavoidable distraction. For example I golfed by West Point once and literally during my back swing I heard loud machine guns go off that screwed up my shot.

Gimme puts, I'll take them only if there's a group behind to speed shit up but I love to actually hear the ball drop.

Fluffing, I actually don't do this that often. I will be generous if there's course damage poor greens condition and move over to grass. I do hit out of divots.

How many off the first tee until the ball is in play?

[aualum06]

Solid post and good to hear your insight. My take is I've done a lot of golfing at this point at various level of courses (executive/par 3 to exclusive club) and with various level of golfers (beginner to scratch).

I've seen it all at this point with regards to scoring. I think the best thing to do is just find a group and what everyone is comfortable with. I'm fortunate I have a group that is fun to golf with and I guess one critique is this group is pretty generous with the mulligans but the conversation and how enjoyable the time is on the course out weighs that gripe.

Here's my legit SOP for a round:

Breakfast ball absolutely. Will hit until I put one in play if I'm showing up cold.

Will allow one mulligan if there's something like a mower or unavoidable distraction. For example I golfed by West Point once and literally during my back swing I heard loud machine guns go off that screwed up my shot.

Gimme puts, I'll take them only if there's a group behind to speed shit up but I love to actually hear the ball drop.

Fluffing, I actually don't do this that often. I will be generous if there's course damage poor greens condition and move over to grass. I do hit out of divots.

How many off the first tee until the ball is in play?

As many as it takes

[steveschneider]

How many off the first tee until the ball is in play?

As many as it takes

Good one.

I think my record was 4-5 breakfast balls. Most of the time one does it and sometimes 2-3.

[duffy munn]

As many as it takes

Good one.

I think my record was 4-5 breakfast balls. Most of the time one does it and sometimes 2-3.

So here's the thing Steve. If you hit 4 breaky balls technically you would be lying 9 in the fairway when you got the a ball in play. Assuming you could get in the hole in 3 from there you make a 12. More likely you make a 14 or 15. But you played your 4th tee shot with no penalty and made a bogey. So on your very first hole you shaved a minimun of 7 shots. Now let's assume you take a couple more mullies through the 18 hole round. Can you see why you really aren't a mid 90's player?

Again, I'm all for making the game more enjoyable but if you played by USGA rules I highly doubt you would even break 110.

[The Pantry]

Steve should play two scorecards. The real one, and the bogus one. Then he'd know the difference.

[duffy munn]

Steve should play two scorecards. The real one, and the bogus one. Then he'd know the difference.

You can't even keep a real card in this scenario. Because you would never know your real score after hitting balls OB and then hitting mullies.

I will repeat that I really have no problem with fucking Steve's version of golf. Make it fun. Just don't say you shot 95 when it was really 125.

[steveschneider]

Good one.

I think my record was 4-5 breakfast balls. Most of the time one does it and sometimes 2-3.

So here's the thing Steve. If you hit 4 breaky balls technically you would be lying 9 in the fairway when you got the a ball in play. Assuming you could get in the hole in 3 from there you make a 12. More likely you make a 14 or 15. But you played your 4th tee shot with no penalty and made a bogey. So on your very first hole you shaved a minimun of 7 shots. Now let's assume you take a couple more mullies through the 18 hole round. Can you see why you really aren't a mid 90's player?

Again, I'm all for making the game more enjoyable but if you played by USGA rules I highly doubt you would even break 110.

If I were to play by USGA rules or for money and was forced to count every stroke and take all the penalties I'd go to the range first and warm up prior to the round so that I wouldn't need the breakfast ball. I played in Maine last summer and the group split a bucket prior to our tee time. Hit probably 20 or so balls, got loose and then started the round with no breakfast balls. I came out of the gates ready to golf.

BTW, went to the range tonight. I can't express how much I love my cobra hybrid clubs. One is a 3-4 and the other is a 4-5. I hit them so good right off the turf.

[steveschneider]

Steve should play two scorecards. The real one, and the bogus one. Then he'd know the difference.

Maybe the best practices is to go to the tee box let the group know you are going to hit 3 practice balls and the fourth one is the one you are going to play?

If you have a better way to warm up at the tee box let me know. For me the only way I know how is to just swing at some balls.

[The Pantry]

Steve should play two scorecards. The real one, and the bogus one. Then he'd know the difference.

Maybe the best practices is to go to the tee box let the group know you are going to hit 3 practice balls and the fourth one is the one you are going to play?

If you have a better way to warm up at the tee box let me know. For me the only way I know how is to just swing at some balls.

Played cold on an after work league for years just taking a few practice swings at the imaginary golf ball on the grass. Some rounds were awful and others surprised me. That's the fun of golf to me.

Shot 42 for nine on a course with water in play on 6 of them. Best score ever. Terrible tee shots but stayed outta the drink. The recovery shots saved me. Holed out from 90 yards on the 9th. That round kept me playing a few more years until I realized I suck at golf.

Next trip to the course, write down your actual score. No mullies, no foot wedges. You'll soon learn you suck at golf too.

[duffy munn]

So here's the thing Steve. If you hit 4 breaky balls technically you would be lying 9 in the fairway when you got the a ball in play. Assuming you could get in the hole in 3 from there you make a 12. More likely you make a 14 or 15. But you played your 4th tee shot with no penalty and made a bogey. So on your very first hole you shaved a minimun of 7 shots. Now let's assume you take a couple more mullies through the 18 hole round. Can you see why you really aren't a mid 90's player?

Again, I'm all for making the game more enjoyable but if you played by USGA rules I highly doubt you would even break 110.

If I were to play by USGA rules or for money and was forced to count every stroke and take all the penalties I'd go to the range first and warm up prior to the round so that I wouldn't need the breakfast ball. I played in Maine last summer and the group split a bucket prior to our tee time. Hit probably 20 or so balls, got loose and then started the round with no breakfast balls. I came out of the gates ready to golf.

BTW, went to the range tonight. I can't express how much I love my cobra hybrid clubs. One is a 3-4 and the other is a 4-5. I hit them so good right off the turf.

Here's a challenge for you Steve. Next time you play 18 holes go by strict USGA rules. Stroke AND distance on OB balls. And by this I mean on every OB ball. Putt everything out. Just try it once.

I will stress, again, that I have zero problem with the way you approach the game. It's supposed to be fun. But damn Steve, if you did what I laid out above you aren't breaking 100. Maybe ever.

[Tim Wakefield]

I played Whistling Straits today. Incredible experience but holy fuck was that tough. A fluffy, non-USGA 104 from the whites

[kingstonlake]

Steve. Go out by yourself one night. Hit three balls on every shot. Use the best ball. Log your score. That is your true potential with consistent practice.

[steveschneider]

If I were to play by USGA rules or for money and was forced to count every stroke and take all the penalties I'd go to the range first and warm up prior to the round so that I wouldn't need the breakfast ball. I played in Maine last summer and the group split a bucket prior to our tee time. Hit probably 20 or so balls, got loose and then started the round with no breakfast balls. I came out of the gates ready to golf.

BTW, went to the range tonight. I can't express how much I love my cobra hybrid clubs. One is a 3-4 and the other is a 4-5. I hit them so good right off the turf.

Here's a challenge for you Steve. Next time you play 18 holes go by strict USGA rules. Stroke AND distance on OB balls. And by this I mean on every OB ball. Putt everything out. Just try it once.

I will stress, again, that I have zero problem with the way you approach the game. It's supposed to be fun. But damn Steve, if you did what I laid out above you aren't breaking 100. Maybe ever.

I accept the challenge. I just hope I'm on that day.

A client of mine that plays golf taught me all about course management he told me most people have the skill to be good golfers they just don't understand course management. I'm just going to grind through the course with my lofted irons and my trusty hybrids.

[steveschneider]

Maybe the best practices is to go to the tee box let the group know you are going to hit 3 practice balls and the fourth one is the one you are going to play?

If you have a better way to warm up at the tee box let me know. For me the only way I know how is to just swing at some balls.

Played cold on an after work league for years just taking a few practice swings at the imaginary golf ball on the grass. Some rounds were awful and others surprised me. That's the fun of golf to me.

Shot 42 for nine on a course with water in play on 6 of them. Best score ever. Terrible tee shots but stayed outta the drink. The recovery shots saved me. Holed out from 90 yards on the 9th. That round kept me playing a few more years until I realized I suck at golf.

Next trip to the course, write down your actual score. No mullies, no foot wedges. You'll soon learn you suck at golf too.

You got me fired up to golf.

[CORNER BLITZ]

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[CORNER BLITZ]

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[aualum06]

Yep go media. Way to be pros

[steveschneider]

Why punish Rocker Mortgage and the city of Detroit over the Det News article?

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