So Lukusa does want to play football...just not at MSU

Vlad wrote:It's not rock bottom. We're still waiting for the DA's office.

Vlad wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Enough of the high horse. Your group trolls for the sake of trolling. That's why there are those type of reactions. Let's look at the parties involved:

The Dude just parrots Valenti and his UM buddies, this has been proven. He doesn't look for discussion. Yes, he starts topics like this, and some people lash out at him, but when actual facts and thoughtful discussion are given, he disappears.

Blanch, I mean, come on. All Blanch does is troll. "blowar" this, "gee ess emm" that. He's been trying to recreate this DE/SB division since this board started, because it's all he has to cling to, is some self-perceived message board cred from 10-15 years ago. No one here gives a shit about ridiculous labels.

You and Vlad, I think most people will agree, do actually engage in conversation more than those other two, however misguided your opinions tend to be. But you two also get more real discussion back than others. But you have also both admitted that you say stuff just to troll people. If you do that, don't complain about people saying mean things to you.

Most of all, Man the fuck up. This is tSwill. You can't have thin skin around here, it's why many that thought they were big shots on tRCMB haven't made it here. You've stuck around enough here that I don't think you are nearly as much of a pussy as your whining about the big meanies on this board make it sound.

Miami, step back for a minute and read your own post. Who the fuck gives a shit what you think of other posters? I mean really? Seems to me that you spend more time pontificating and passing judgment on others than you do talking about MSU sports. True or false?

Enough with the nonsense, tell me what you think of the football mess, and how you think this is going to play out for the program, for MD and for Hollis. Because that's what we're here to discuss, MSU sports, not what we think of each other.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

I actually tried it for quite a while until the hypocracy and flaming became too much. It isn't that easy when the response is always "you are a shitbird troll" "go fuck yourself" " you are a fucking idiot". "Watch it or you will get bannned" I tried to go to my own board but you and your ilk just stalked and harrassed me there. I put Death Roe on ignore and that seems to help because he responds with flames to every post. I suppose tGreenWay will have to be next as he seems incapable of anything but juvenile insults as well.
I am sorry but I just don't notice "my group" making these kind of attacks, which is representative of the hypocracy of this board in generall.
Oh and I am sorry. But I don't think I am going to change. I am trying to make change

Enough of the high horse. Your group trolls for the sake of trolling. That's why there are those type of reactions. Let's look at the parties involved:

The Dude just parrots Valenti and his UM buddies, this has been proven. He doesn't look for discussion. Yes, he starts topics like this, and some people lash out at him, but when actual facts and thoughtful discussion are given, he disappears.

Blanch, I mean, come on. All Blanch does is troll. "blowar" this, "gee ess emm" that. He's been trying to recreate this DE/SB division since this board started, because it's all he has to cling to, is some self-perceived message board cred from 10-15 years ago. No one here gives a shit about ridiculous labels.

You and Vlad, I think most people will agree, do actually engage in conversation more than those other two, however misguided your opinions tend to be. But you two also get more real discussion back than others. But you have also both admitted that you say stuff just to troll people. If you do that, don't complain about people saying mean things to you.

Most of all, Man the fuck up. This is tSwill. You can't have thin skin around here, it's why many that thought they were big shots on tRCMB haven't made it here. You've stuck around enough here that I don't think you are nearly as much of a pussy as your whining about the big meanies on this board make it sound.

Vlad wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Enough of the high horse. Your group trolls for the sake of trolling. That's why there are those type of reactions. Let's look at the parties involved:

The Dude just parrots Valenti and his UM buddies, this has been proven. He doesn't look for discussion. Yes, he starts topics like this, and some people lash out at him, but when actual facts and thoughtful discussion are given, he disappears.

Blanch, I mean, come on. All Blanch does is troll. "blowar" this, "gee ess emm" that. He's been trying to recreate this DE/SB division since this board started, because it's all he has to cling to, is some self-perceived message board cred from 10-15 years ago. No one here gives a shit about ridiculous labels.

You and Vlad, I think most people will agree, do actually engage in conversation more than those other two, however misguided your opinions tend to be. But you two also get more real discussion back than others. But you have also both admitted that you say stuff just to troll people. If you do that, don't complain about people saying mean things to you.

Most of all, Man the fuck up. This is tSwill. You can't have thin skin around here, it's why many that thought they were big shots on tRCMB haven't made it here. You've stuck around enough here that I don't think you are nearly as much of a pussy as your whining about the big meanies on this board make it sound.

Miami, step back for a minute and read your own post. Who the fuck gives a shit what you think of other posters? I mean really? Seems to me that you spend more time pontificating and passing judgment on others than you do talking about MSU sports. True or false?

Enough with the nonsense, tell me what you think of the football mess, and how you think this is going to play out for the program, for MD and for Hollis. Because that's what we're here to discuss, MSU sports, not what we think of each other.

GRR Spartan wrote:Why is it that Vlad and two others only show up to talk football when bad things happen?

Vlad's pious post sounds like a shit bird trying to duck birdshot.

NigelUno wrote:Geez. The FCM has highjacked this thread.

Can we get back on topic?

Did Lukusa leave after fall semester, or was he taking classes in January and early February (and then quit)?

Lukusa, one of nine true freshmen to play for the Spartans in 2016, said he is enrolled at Northwestern Michigan College in his hometown and is pursuing an associate degree in criminal justice. His career goals are to go into the CIA or FBI or to become a DNR conservation officer. He’s also working two jobs and volunteering as an assistant coach for Traverse City West’s junior varsity basketball team.

“I’m very grateful for opportunity they gave me at Michigan State and will forever cherish that chance,” Lukusa said. “I’m definitely not passionate enough about football right now to have my life revolve around it. I wasn’t happy. Football was a big portion of my life for a long time. And to give it up was hard to me.

“For me, the hardest part was giving up my friendships and the relationships I built at Michigan State. That was the hardest part for me. Football, at this point in my life, is kind of take-it-or-leave-it.”

NigelUno wrote:Geez. The FCM has highjacked this thread.

Can we get back on topic?

Did Lukusa leave after fall semester, or was he taking classes in January and early February (and then quit)?

LooseGoose wrote:

NigelUno wrote:Geez. The FCM has highjacked this thread.

Can we get back on topic?

Did Lukusa leave after fall semester, or was he taking classes in January and early February (and then quit)?

Maybe you could go back to the original thread and determine that for yourself? I guess it's easier to demand other do the research for you.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Vlad wrote:

Miami, step back for a minute and read your own post. Who the fuck gives a shit what you think of other posters? I mean really? Seems to me that you spend more time pontificating and passing judgment on others than you do talking about MSU sports. True or false?

Enough with the nonsense, tell me what you think of the football mess, and how you think this is going to play out for the program, for MD and for Hollis. Because that's what we're here to discuss, MSU sports, not what we think of each other.

And who the fuck gives a shit what you think of sports?  Or what me or anyone else thinks of sports for that matter?  Or what either of us, or anyone else thinks of sweatpants?  It's a message board (how long have you been on these boards, again?).  It's social media.  Social media is a sounding board, for people to give their opinion, even though most people don't give a shit what they think.  This thread isn't 4 pages long because we care so much about the future of this kid.  It's 4 pages long because people (including you) have been talking about fellow posters.  I offered my two cents, whether you like it or not, but don't get all high and mighty like you've only been talking about sports.

In case you haven't noticed, there isn't a lot of MSU sports to discuss.  What can I say about the mess that hasn't already been said?  It's a mess.  I don't know how it will play out, but in time we will see.  If I knew the future, I'd use that ability for better things that how this mess will play out for MSU football.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

NigelUno wrote:Geez. The FCM has highjacked this thread.

Can we get back on topic?

Did Lukusa leave after fall semester, or was he taking classes in January and early February (and then quit)?

Article dated 2/7

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2017/02/07/michigan-state-football-thiyo-lukusa/97596988/

Lukusa, one of nine true freshmen to play for the Spartans in 2016, said he is enrolled at Northwestern Michigan College in his hometown and is pursuing an associate degree in criminal justice. His career goals are to go into the CIA or FBI or to become a DNR conservation officer. He’s also working two jobs and volunteering as an assistant coach for Traverse City West’s junior varsity basketball team.

“I’m very grateful for opportunity they gave me at Michigan State and will forever cherish that chance,” Lukusa said. “I’m definitely not passionate enough about football right now to have my life revolve around it. I wasn’t happy. Football was a big portion of my life for a long time. And to give it up was hard to me.

“For me, the hardest part was giving up my friendships and the relationships I built at Michigan State. That was the hardest part for me. Football, at this point in my life, is kind of take-it-or-leave-it.”

LooseGoose wrote:

NigelUno wrote:Geez. The FCM has highjacked this thread.

Can we get back on topic?

Did Lukusa leave after fall semester, or was he taking classes in January and early February (and then quit)?

Maybe you could go back to the original thread and determine that for yourself? I guess it's easier to demand other do the research for you.

NigelUno wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Article dated 2/7

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2017/02/07/michigan-state-football-thiyo-lukusa/97596988/

I've seen the article.  I know when the article was written.

Does your link/post answer my question?

I'm not sure it does.  Maybe I'm just missing it.  

Lukusa, one of nine true freshmen to play for the Spartans in 2016, said he is enrolled at Northwestern Michigan College in his hometown and is pursuing an associate degree in criminal justice. His career goals are to go into the CIA or FBI or to become a DNR conservation officer. He’s also working two jobs and volunteering as an assistant coach for Traverse City West’s junior varsity basketball team.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Nigel it says he was enrolled at NWMC taking classes in February. So yes, he left after fall semester.

LooseGoose wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

I've seen the article.  I know when the article was written.

Does your link/post answer my question?

I'm not sure it does.  Maybe I'm just missing it.  

So that confirms what I thought about your reading comprehension and deduction skills.

From the article.

Lukusa, one of nine true freshmen to play for the Spartans in 2016, said he is enrolled at Northwestern Michigan College in his hometown and is pursuing an associate degree in criminal justice. His career goals are to go into the CIA or FBI or to become a DNR conservation officer. He’s also working two jobs and volunteering as an assistant coach for Traverse City West’s junior varsity basketball team.

Wouldn't if be most logical that if he were enrolled at a college in TC, working 2 jobs up there and coaching TC JV BB that he wasn't simultaneously taking classes in EL??

Vlad wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
And who the fuck gives a shit what you think of sports?  Or what me or anyone else thinks of sports for that matter?  Or what either of us, or anyone else thinks of sweatpants?  It's a message board (how long have you been on these boards, again?).  It's social media.  Social media is a sounding board, for people to give their opinion, even though most people don't give a shit what they think.  This thread isn't 4 pages long because we care so much about the future of this kid.  It's 4 pages long because people (including you) have been talking about fellow posters.  I offered my two cents, whether you like it or not, but don't get all high and mighty like you've only been talking about sports.

In case you haven't noticed, there isn't a lot of MSU sports to discuss.  What can I say about the mess that hasn't already been said?  It's a mess.  I don't know how it will play out, but in time we will see.  If I knew the future, I'd use that ability for better things that how this mess will play out for MSU football.

Wait...so we're not here to offer our opinions (and read others' opinions) on MSU sports? LOL! This is an MSU sports message board right?? Why were we invited here again, if not for the purpose of offering our opinions?

Vlad wrote:Ok, I get that you don't have anything to add regarding the mess at MSU right now. Fair enough, some people just don't have much to offer in way of discussion. Personally, I plan to spend the entire off-season discussing the multiple sexual misconduct investigations.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

I actually tried it for quite a while until the hypocracy and flaming became too much. It isn't that easy when the response is always "you are a shitbird troll" "go fuck yourself" " you are a fucking idiot". "Watch it or you will get bannned" I tried to go to my own board but you and your ilk just stalked and harrassed me there. I put Death Roe on ignore and that seems to help because he responds with flames to every post. I suppose tGreenWay will have to be next as he seems incapable of anything but juvenile insults as well.
I am sorry but I just don't notice "my group" making these kind of attacks, which is representative of the hypocracy of this board in generall.
Oh and I am sorry. But I don't think I am going to change. I am trying to make change

Enough of the high horse. Your group trolls for the sake of trolling. That's why there are those type of reactions. Let's look at the parties involved:

The Dude just parrots Valenti and his UM buddies, this has been proven. He doesn't look for discussion. Yes, he starts topics like this, and some people lash out at him, but when actual facts and thoughtful discussion are given, he disappears.

Blanch, I mean, come on. All Blanch does is troll. "blowar" this, "gee ess emm" that. He's been trying to recreate this DE/SB division since this board started, because it's all he has to cling to, is some self-perceived message board cred from 10-15 years ago. No one here gives a shit about ridiculous labels.

You and Vlad, I think most people will agree, do actually engage in conversation more than those other two, however misguided your opinions tend to be. But you two also get more real discussion back than others. But you have also both admitted that you say stuff just to troll people. If you do that, don't complain about people saying mean things to you.

Most of all, Man the fuck up. This is tSwill. You can't have thin skin around here, it's why many that thought they were big shots on tRCMB haven't made it here. You've stuck around enough here that I don't think you are nearly as much of a pussy as your whining about the big meanies on this board make it sound.

Herbie Green wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Enough of the high horse.  Your group trolls for the sake of trolling.  That's why there are those type of reactions.  Let's look at the parties involved:

The Dude just parrots Valenti and his UM buddies, this has been proven.  He doesn't look for discussion.  Yes, he starts topics like this, and some people lash out at him, but when actual facts and thoughtful discussion are given, he disappears.

Blanch, I mean, come on.  All Blanch does is troll.  "blowar" this, "gee ess emm" that.  He's been trying to recreate this DE/SB division since this board started, because it's all he has to cling to, is some self-perceived message board cred from 10-15 years ago.  No one here gives a shit about ridiculous labels.

You and Vlad, I think most people will agree, do actually engage in conversation more than those other two, however misguided your opinions tend to be.  But you two also get more real discussion back than others.  But you have also both admitted that you say stuff just to troll people.  If you do that, don't complain about people saying mean things to you.

Most of all, Man the fuck up.  This is tSwill.  You can't have thin skin around here, it's why many that thought they were big shots on tRCMB haven't made it here.  You've stuck around enough here that I don't think you are nearly as much of a pussy as your whining about the big meanies on this board make it sound.  

You want me to give a description of all the blowars that post here?

Where should I start?  Goose? Nigel?  Death Roe?  Greenway?  How about a little GRR Spartan?

If I don't like their usernames can I get my own free license to tell them to fuck themselves after every one of their posts?

It is just amazing to me how you could be this out of touch with reality.  Lol @ "manning up".  I am right fucking here and I aint going no place whether you like it or not  

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Vlad wrote:

Wait...so we're not here to offer our opinions (and read others' opinions) on MSU sports? LOL! This is an MSU sports message board right?? Why were we invited here again, if not for the purpose of offering our opinions?

Are you serious, right now, Vlad?  You're going to say that, making it sound like I said we're not here to give opinions, in response to the very post where I said:

"It's a message board (how long have you been on these boards, again?).  It's social media.  Social media is a sounding board, for people to give their opinion, even though most people don't give a shit what they think."

I literally said that this is for people to give their opinion.  I also said most people don't give a shit about each other's opinions.  I mean, do you?   Do you really put any real value in what me, or Nigel, or Travis, or The Dude says about something?  I certainly hope you don't, that would be kind of sad.  It's conversation for the sake of conversation. And, yes, in case you haven't noticed in all the years that you've been on these boards (how many has it been?), we give opinions about things other than just MSU sports.  That can include other posters....as you yourself have done in this and other threads.

Vlad wrote:Ok, I get that you don't have anything to add regarding the mess at MSU right now. Fair enough, some people just don't have much to offer in way of discussion. Personally, I plan to spend the entire off-season discussing the multiple sexual misconduct investigations.

You don't have anything to add regarding the mess at MSU right now, either.  Neither does anyone else.  We don't know shit until it plays itself out, so all we can do is just talk in circles, rehashing the same stuff until the next tidbit of news leaks out.  Opine away on it, that's fine.  But don't confuse that with adding anything.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:



You want me to give a description of all the blowars that post here?

Where should I start?  Goose? Nigel?  Death Roe?  Greenway?  How about a little GRR Spartan?

If I don't like their usernames can I get my own free license to tell them to fuck themselves after every one of their posts?

It is just amazing to me how you could be this out of touch with reality.  Lol @ "manning up".  I am right fucking here and I aint going no place whether you like it or not  

Just like Vlad, you attempt to argue against me by saying the same thing as I said.  Notice where I said that you've stuck around her long enough that I don't think you're as big of a pussy as your whining makes it sound.  I mean come on, dude, crying about people saying mean things?  Really?  You're better than that.  But you want to play with the internet martyr crew.  Just comes off pretty weak.

And yes, you can tell anyone you want to fuck themselves, for all I care.  And you can give descriptions of all the "blowars" if you want to.  Do I need to give permission?  You're asking like that would offend me or something.  Why would I care?  Wah, someone said something mean about me and my friends, who they don't even know on the internet!  Please.

Blanch32 wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Just like Vlad, you attempt to argue against me by saying the same thing as I said.  Notice where I said that you've stuck around her long enough that I don't think you're as big of a pussy as your whining makes it sound.  I mean come on, dude, crying about people saying mean things?  Really?  You're better than that.  But you want to play with the internet martyr crew.  Just comes off pretty weak.

And yes, you can tell anyone you want to fuck themselves, for all I care.  And you can give descriptions of all the "blowars" if you want to.  Do I need to give permission?  You're asking like that would offend me or something.  Why would I care?  Wah, someone said something mean about me and my friends, who they don't even know on the internet!  Please.

.....and yet moose and SD265 were permabanned and I've been banned multiple times along with Dude and Herbie. yet, Nigel and death Roe haven't ever even been given a token time out....

Vlad wrote:

Nordic wrote:Well, if it is rock bottom, we are in pretty good shape.

It's not rock bottom. We're still waiting for the DA's office.

Nordic wrote:

Vlad wrote:

It's not rock bottom. We're still waiting for the DA's office.

I've already factored that in as a given.  0, 1,...4... 5 it is already a stain on the program.  Unless something new and riveting comes out it won't move my needle much from where it is already at.

But I assume you, Dude, Solari, etc. will double down with the on

NigelUno wrote:https://www.landof10.com/michigan-state/michigan-state-depth-chart-spring-game-2017

Depth Chart...for real sports discussion:

Offense

Player No. 1 Player No. 2
QB Brian Lewerke Damion Terry
RB Gerald Holmes Madre London
WR Darrell Stewart Jr. Cam Chambers
WR Trishton Jackson Justin Layne
TE Noah Davis Jack Camper
TE Matt Sokol Matt Seybert
LT Cole Chewins Dennis Finley
LG Tyler Higby Chase Gianacakos
C Brian Allen Matt Allen
RG David Beedle Casey Schreiner
RT Luke Campbell AJ Arcuri

NigelUno wrote:https://www.landof10.com/michigan-state/michigan-state-depth-chart-spring-game-2017

Depth Chart...for real sports discussion:

Offense

Player No. 1 Player No. 2
QB Brian Lewerke Damion Terry
RB Gerald Holmes Madre London
WR Darrell Stewart Jr. Cam Chambers
WR Trishton Jackson Justin Layne
TE Noah Davis Jack Camper
TE Matt Sokol Matt Seybert
LT Cole Chewins Dennis Finley
LG Tyler Higby Chase Gianacakos
C Brian Allen Matt Allen
RG David Beedle Casey Schreiner
RT Luke Campbell AJ Arcuri

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I think most of us have accepted that the 3 players will not be back most likely and the coach in question will be let go. Whether the players are found guilty in a court of law or via the Title IX investigation or otherwise, I have personally reconciled that they won't be back.

Obviously we can hope for the best. The best being that the young woman was not harmed and the players are not guilty, no charges are pressed, Title IX comes up empty and they are welcomed back on the team and campus housing with open arms. I do not think that is likely personally.