The 2020 Presidential campaign.

NigelUno wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
when they lock children in cages, we vote for someone else.

when they rape women, we vote for someone else.

when they denigrate the Constitution, we vote for someone else.

when they mock disabled people, we vote for someone else.

when they call white supremacists 'very fine people', we vote for someone else.

(and by "we", I mean myself.. maybe that makes me a bad christian).

Roc whining about someone calling him sanctimonious is rich.

steveschneider wrote:The good ol purity contest of the left. Can't wait to hear the classic 'lesser of two evils is still evil'.

Cameron wrote:

steveschneider wrote:The good ol purity contest of the left. Can't wait to hear the classic 'lesser of two evils is still evil'.

What level of impurity is acceptable? Is 99% Republican, 1% Democrat a bridge too far, or would that still represent a "purity test" in your mind?

Bloomgberg literally held office as a Republican. Pointing that out is not a purity test. It's a common sense test.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Cameron wrote:

What level of impurity is acceptable? Is 99% Republican, 1% Democrat a bridge too far, or would that still represent a "purity test" in your mind?

Bloomgberg literally held office as a Republican. Pointing that out is not a purity test. It's a common sense test.

in my 50 years on the planet, I've voted for a quite a few republicans.

just nobody in the modern republican party that are racists, hate America and rape women.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: in my 50 years on the planet, I've voted for a quite a few republicans.

just nobody in the modern republican party that are racists, hate America and rape women.

Bad news on all of those fronts if you end up voting for Bloomberg in a general bob

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Bad news on all of those fronts if you end up voting for Bloomberg in a general bob

as I've said, if it's Bloomberg or someone who rapes women, denigrates POW's, besmirches veterans, mocks disabled people, calls white supremacists "very fine people", destroys the Constitution, locks children in cages, pays hush money to porn stars.. #TeamBloomberg.

Cameron wrote:I'd just like to point out how effectively Bloomberg has bought Pete and Klobuchar right out of the race. Their supporters should be as mad as anyone about Bloomberg.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: as I've said, if it's Bloomberg or someone who rapes women, denigrates POW's, besmirches veterans, mocks disabled people, calls white supremacists "very fine people", destroys the Constitution, locks children in cages, pays hush money to porn stars.. #TeamBloomberg.

Fine. But if that happens then you’ll have to cut out the “I’ve never voted for a modern republican blah blah blah” talk.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Fine. But if that happens then you’ll have to cut out the “I’ve never voted for a modern republican blah blah blah” talk.

yes - if I vote for Bloomberg in November, I will fully admit to voting for Bloomberg in November.

The candidate also dismissed reports that some of his supporters had gone after members of the union on social media for their decision not to endorse him: “Obviously, that is not acceptable to me. And I don’t know who these so-called supporters are. You know, we are living in a strange world on the internet….Anybody making personal attacks against anybody else in my name is not part of our movement.”

steveschneider wrote:If it comes down to NY and it's Bloomberg vs Bernie in the primary I will vote for Bernie.

“It makes sense to me the idea that nonvoters or unreliable voters don’t have a strong attachment to either the Republican Party or the Democratic Party but may have an attachment to Donald Trump,” says Meagan Day, a staff writer at the democratic socialist Jacobin magazine. “This population has no love for the two major parties, but it’s possible for a charismatic change-oriented candidate whose campaign has a lot of vigor, to break through and win their affections where the sort of generic partisan affiliation wouldn’t necessarily.”

In a New York Times survey of swing state nonvoters, Sanders was the most popular Democrat, besting Trump by 4 percentage points, while Warren was actually 1 point less popular than Trump among nonvoters. The same survey showed that between Democratic voters and nonvoters who favor Democrats, fewer nonvoters consider themselves “very liberal” or say they want a candidate who “promises to fight for a bold progressive agenda,” but more nonvoters than voting Democrats want a candidate who “will fundamentally change America.” The Times survey also showed that more Democratic-leaning nonvoters than Democratic voters in swing states support single-payer health care.

steveschneider wrote:If it comes down to NY and it's Bloomberg vs Bernie in the primary I will vote for Bernie.

Rocinante wrote:Or... bear with me here......


Everything gets done.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Rocinante wrote:Or... bear with me here......


Everything gets done.

Depends 100% on flipping the senate.

steveschneider wrote:The debate tonight should be fun to watch.

Cameron wrote:

steveschneider wrote:The debate tonight should be fun to watch.

I don't plan on watching, but I bet the knives will be out for Bloomberg. Especially if he doesn't handle the first attack well.

DWags wrote:Wow, the came out wit the left and rights to bloomberg's head like it was Hearns Haggler first round.

Then my wife says, "I just wish Buttigige wasn't gay". Daughter and I look at her.... emmm... I'm uncomfortable with what you just said. Here's the deal, I know she meant that he will lose votes because of that and that sucks. But I really think in November that will not be a leading cause of the undecideds who vote.

steveschneider wrote:The debate tonight should be fun to watch.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:saw that the mainstream media was whining about Elizabeth Warren being "mean".. and "angry"..

steveschneider wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:saw that the mainstream media was whining about Elizabeth Warren being "mean".. and "angry"..

If any did they were the outliers. I think it’s pretty unanimous she absolutely Curb stomped Bloomberg in the first minute or so. It was pretty epic.

Jennifer Rubin @JRubinBlogger

Mean and angry Warren is not a good look

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

If any did they were the outliers. I think it’s pretty unanimous she absolutely Curb stomped Bloomberg in the first minute or so. It was pretty epic.

some MSNBC person..

Jennifer Rubin @JRubinBlogger

Mean and angry Warren is not a good look

the same folks that went out of their way to normalize the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator are upset when a woman {sniffle} appears "mean" and "angry"....

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

If any did they were the outliers. I think it’s pretty unanimous she absolutely Curb stomped Bloomberg in the first minute or so. It was pretty epic.

some MSNBC person..

Jennifer Rubin @JRubinBlogger

Mean and angry Warren is not a good look

the same folks that went out of their way to normalize the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator are upset when a woman {sniffle} appears "mean" and "angry"....

Cameron wrote:I didn't watch the debate, but what I'm gleaning from the articles about it, Warren won the debate, Bloomberg got his ass handed to him, and Amy and Pete don't like each other. Relatively neutral performances from Biden and Sanders, it seems.

steveschneider wrote:

Cameron wrote:I didn't watch the debate, but what I'm gleaning from the articles about it, Warren won the debate, Bloomberg got his ass handed to him, and Amy and Pete don't like each other. Relatively neutral performances from Biden and Sanders, it seems.

I thought Bernie was solid. He avoided attacks and got some solid digs at Bloomberg. Also, great night for him the centrist shredded eachother and Bloomberg has a disastrous night.

Cameron wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

I thought Bernie was solid. He avoided attacks and got some solid digs at Bloomberg. Also, great night for him the centrist shredded eachother and Bloomberg has a disastrous night.

Yeah, "neutral" is a win for the front runner. I'm sure he was delighted to see everyone going after Bloomberg, and Amy and Pete going after each other. Normally, you'd think the front runner would take the most heat, but Bloomberg is a lightning rod.

steveschneider wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: some MSNBC person..



the same folks that went out of their way to normalize the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator are upset when a woman {sniffle} appears "mean" and "angry".....

Jennifer Rubin definitely an outlier. She got called out for that take by a lot of other msm journalists. She’s very conservative and probably didn’t like it that Warren shredded Mike Bloomberg.

Jake from State Farm wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: some MSNBC person..



the same folks that went out of their way to normalize the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator are upset when a woman {sniffle} appears "mean" and "angry".....

Gonna be a great election if we have to choose between a racist, bigoted christian sexual predator, former democrat and a racist, sexist, misogynist, former republican.