tOfficial 2023 Spartan Football Thread

by AvgMSUJoe January 25th 2023, 3:23 pm

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by AvgMSUJoe January 25th 2023, 3:34 pm

Yikes...

lsj wrote:Stanford's defense ranked 127th out of 131 Football Bowl Subdivision teams in rush defense last season, with the 224.4 yards given up per game the seventh-highest average allowed in program history, and 90th at 1.92 sacks per game. The Cardinal also had the 114th-rated overall defense, allowing 434.1 yards per game. Their 2021 run defense allowed 235.7 yards per game, third-most in school history.

by **Heat Miser** January 25th 2023, 4:00 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Yikes...

lsj wrote:Stanford's defense ranked 127th out of 131 Football Bowl Subdivision teams in rush defense last season, with the 224.4 yards given up per game the seventh-highest average allowed in program history, and 90th at 1.92 sacks per game. The Cardinal also had the 114th-rated overall defense, allowing 434.1 yards per game. Their 2021 run defense allowed 235.7 yards per game, third-most in school history.

He'll fit right in!

by AvgMSUJoe February 2nd 2023, 9:59 am

Michigan State football's signing class shows it's weaning itself off the transfer portal

article wrote:For that to happen, there will have to be patience— not just on Dellinger’s part, but MSU’s too. It seems that the Spartans are willing to concede as much, knowing from their own experience that a quick fix is far from guaranteed.

Weeellll that will go over well on the internet...

"FIRE ALL COACHES!!! I DEMAND ACTION!!!" - internet/sports radio guy after the first turnover of next season.

by **Heat Miser** February 2nd 2023, 11:40 am

Not exactly a hot take, and not really correct either. There will always be transfers. That's the new normal. You can't replace a bunch of transferring upper classmen with freshmen recruits. You have to maintain class balance so you don't lose half your roster in a given year to graduation. That means picking up transfers & JUCOs when appropriate.

UGA has 10 transfers out. Alabama has 17. MSU 14. They key is...are the guys you bring in better than the guys leaving. In MSU's case, according to the rankings at least, not really. They're about the same this year. However, the rankings don't take into account position depth or lack thereof. Like a kicker for example. tOfficial 2023 Spartan Football Thread 1896033241

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by **DWags** March 4th 2023, 1:40 pm

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Bummer.

by **Turtleneck** March 4th 2023, 1:50 pm

by **NigelUno** March 4th 2023, 4:41 pm

DWags wrote:[tw]1558870993174667264?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Bummer.

? That's from last fall.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** March 4th 2023, 4:45 pm

This seems bad though

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2023/03/04/michigan-state-football-pass-rush-assistant-brandon-jordan-seattle-seahawks/69971554007/

by **DWags** March 4th 2023, 6:35 pm

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:[tw]1558870993174667264?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Bummer.

? That's from last fall.

Yeah copied wrong url while at the game. Sorry, half paying attention. Just googled hit copied and pasted. It’s our guy that brings in pros.

by **tGreenWay** March 4th 2023, 6:40 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:This seems bad though

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2023/03/04/michigan-state-football-pass-rush-assistant-brandon-jordan-seattle-seahawks/69971554007/

Yeah, I don’t like this at all. There was an Oklahoma #5 who was leaning our way and I doubt that’s the case now. I hope I’m wrong.

by **GRR Spartan** March 4th 2023, 9:13 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:This seems bad though

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2023/03/04/michigan-state-football-pass-rush-assistant-brandon-jordan-seattle-seahawks/69971554007/

If you are Brandon Jordan in year 2 of $225K/yr two year contract and an NFL team offers to double or triple your salary (and maybe more) to just coach with no recruiting He’s foolish not to go to the Seahawks.

However seeing the pass rush specialist leaving 6 weeks after the new DLine coach is named makes you wonder if that didn’t hasten Brandon Jordan’s move f he thought he was ready to be a DLine coach.

It’s ugly but this week Florida DC left to go to the NFL Cardinals . Earlier Georgia’s OC left for the Ravens. Jordan isn’t the trendsetter but he left on his own.

by **Trapper Gus** March 5th 2023, 12:13 pm

Seems like, without knowing the inside story, as to if he talked to Tucker before deciding, it is hard to know if he abused Tuxker's trust in him.

Taking a job for more money and at a better position is not something to fault someone for.

by **Turtleneck** March 6th 2023, 6:21 pm

Oklahoma Sooners legend tells 5-star recruit his decision 'should be easy now' following Michigan State coaching change

After one season in East Lansing, pass-rush specialist Brandon Jordan is leaving the program to work for the Seattle Seahawks.

“I wish him nothing but the best moving forward," Stone told On3. "I am shocked but I am happy for him and the love I have for MSU remains the same. Go Green!”

Still, Jordan was one of Stone's primary Michigan State recruiters and has worked with some of the NFL's best.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/oklahoma-sooners-legend-tells-5-star-recruit-his-decision-should-be-easy-now-following-michigan-state-coaching-change/ar-AA18hz21?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1b5495334b83456cb3056e45aa9d9833&ei=33

by **DWags** March 7th 2023, 6:11 pm

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by **Nordic** March 7th 2023, 6:43 pm

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I wanna see how many reps Ben VanSumeren puts up on the bench.

by **DWags** March 8th 2023, 6:20 pm

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by **Nordic** March 8th 2023, 8:12 pm

DWags wrote:[tw]1633569820527542272?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Damn. What are they doing?

by **Floyd Robertson** March 8th 2023, 8:17 pm

Nordic wrote:
DWags wrote:[tw]1633569820527542272?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Damn. What are they doing?

by **DWags** March 8th 2023, 8:33 pm

Nordic wrote:
DWags wrote:[tw]1633569820527542272?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Damn. What are they doing?

Making room for all the trophies!

by **Nordic** March 8th 2023, 8:47 pm

DWags wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Damn. What are they doing?

Making room for all the trophies!

Smart thinking

by **Trapper Gus** March 16th 2023, 10:59 am

Not seeing this elsewhere in the thread so here is the 2023 schedule, and below that a way to some prediction as to wins & losses.

09/02 - CMU (H)
09/09 - Richmond (H)
09/16 - Washington (H)
09/23 - Maryland (H)
09/30 - Iowa (A)
10/07 - Bye (H)
10/14 - Rutgers (A)
10/21 - Michigan (H)
10/28 - Minnesota (A)
11/04 - Nebraska (H)
11/11 - Ohio State (A)
11/18 - Indiana (A)
11/25 - Penn State (H)

thinking 7 - 5 might be a good guess?

by AvgMSUJoe March 16th 2023, 12:28 pm

I got 12-0, but that osu one is tricky.

by **Trapper Gus** March 16th 2023, 12:45 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:I got 12-0, but that osu one is tricky.

I was trying to be realistic, agree that MSU will go 15 - 0 for the season.

by **DWags** March 25th 2023, 1:19 pm

Anti e know if this is a big deal or nah?

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by **Nordic** March 25th 2023, 3:10 pm

DWags wrote:Anti e know if this is a big deal or nah?

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Probably not great. He was hyped up a crootin' guru. But he is being let go, so he was obviously not meeting Tuck's expectations.

by **tGreenWay** March 25th 2023, 5:03 pm

Would love to know the behind the scenes story of this. Which Swill reporter is on the spring football beat?

by **DWags** March 25th 2023, 5:13 pm

tGreenWay wrote:Would love to know the behind the scenes story of this. Which Swill reporter is on the spring football beat?

We prefer wild speculation as opposed to facts. You should know that by now. I think we assigned Bob this story, but he’s currently looking for facts on the Springsteen tour. If he doesn’t find any he’ll just throw some crazy shit up, we’ll read it and move on.

by **tGreenWay** March 25th 2023, 5:31 pm

DWags wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Would love to know the behind the scenes story of this. Which Swill reporter is on the spring football beat?

We prefer wild speculation as opposed to facts. You should know that by now. I think we assigned Bob this story, but he’s currently looking for facts on the Springsteen tour. If he doesn’t find any he’ll just throw some crazy shit up, we’ll read it and move on.

I’m good with that.

by **GRR Spartan** March 25th 2023, 8:01 pm

DWags wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Would love to know the behind the scenes story of this. Which Swill reporter is on the spring football beat?

We prefer wild speculation as opposed to facts. You should know that by now. I think we assigned Bob this story, but he’s currently looking for facts on the Springsteen tour. If he doesn’t find any he’ll just throw some crazy shit up, we’ll read it and move on.

Once it’s known where Khalif lands and what title he gets will probably explain if he was asked to leave or was approached by another school.

Like to be a fly on the wall in the football building for the last month. Several significant departures and so far just one hiring.

CMT’s been around long enough he knows the next two season is time to show progress. Nobody is feeling more pressure. I hope the coaching personnel moves result in his team winning 3 or 4 more games than the 5 in ‘22.

by **tGreenWay** March 26th 2023, 3:08 am

9-3.

by **tGreenWay** March 26th 2023, 4:00 am

Friend of mine who is kind of plugged in says a replacement hire for Saeed Khalif could come pretty quickly. Oh, and apparently, Javon Ringer is now on staff. If that was posted here I either missed it or forgot in my old age.

by **Turtleneck** April 5th 2023, 11:15 am

The off-season is when championships are won. We have had a couple of weeks to vacation, and now it's time to focus.

Michigan State football's offensive line, much healthier than a year ago, should help run game

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2023/04/05/michigan-state-football-spring-offensive-line-depth/70082178007/

by AvgMSUJoe April 5th 2023, 12:22 pm

Encouraging.
10-2

by **Trapper Gus** April 6th 2023, 7:43 am

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2023/04/michigan-state-dl-transfer-plans-to-take-over-games-while-embracing-new-underdog-mentality.html

EAST LANSING – Tunmise Adeleye has been at Michigan State for only three months.

The defensive lineman transfer from Texas A&M is still getting acclimated with his new surroundings but didn’t hesitate when asked about his impression of the program.

“Underdog mentality,” Adeleye said on Tuesday.

This is a new situation for Adeleye, a former four-star, top-40 overall recruit from Texas who had offers from the best programs in the nation. He was committed to Ohio State before signing with Texas A&M and spending two seasons with the Aggies. Now he’s a Spartan.

Adeleye joins a defensive line that should be solid up the middle with tackles Simeon Barrow, Derrick Harmon, Maverick Hansen and Alex VanSumeren all returning while the Spartans added a pair of transfers at the position in Florida State’s Jarrett Jackson and Liberty’s Dre Butler. At defensive end, Khris Bogle, Zion Young, Brandon Wright and Avery Dunn are the top returners and the Spartans signed a trio of four-star prospects at the position in Bai Jobe, Andrew Depaepe and Jalen Thompson. Adeleye has been able to size up how he fits at Michigan State, which began spring practice on March 14.

by AvgMSUJoe April 6th 2023, 10:58 am

NATTY!
Zilly - 0

by **NigelUno** April 6th 2023, 6:11 pm

College football recruiting expenses by conference: SEC stands out as Georgia spends big for success in 2022

We're 9th in the Big Ten. What in the what.

Big Ten
SCHOOL 2022 SPENDING 2017-22 AVERAGE SPENDING

Michigan
$2,240,064 $1,353,431

Rutgers
$1,609,032 $879,494

Penn State
$1,486,521 $1,240,848

Maryland
$1,380,974 $683,200

Ohio State
$1,292,799 $845,113

Illinois
$1,157,460 $749,850

Minnesota
$1,127,389 $904,139

Nebraska
$1,020,050 $937,279

Michigan State
$955,303 $721,879

Purdue $878,651 $602,360
Wisconsin $857,490 $392,724
Indiana $826,713 $606,147
Iowa $577,589 $459,128

by AvgMSUJoe April 6th 2023, 7:10 pm

Oof
6-6

by **Nordic** April 6th 2023, 10:39 pm

Additionally, schools compile these numbers differently, which impacts comparison. Still, the bottom-line number gives us a baseline comparison.

Hopefully the above is playing a factor, along with year-to-year variance (tOSU at 5?). We should be in the top 5 more times than not if we want to compete.

by **Trapper Gus** April 7th 2023, 8:11 am

Nordic wrote:
Additionally, schools compile these numbers differently, which impacts comparison. Still, the bottom-line number gives us a baseline comparison.

Hopefully the above is playing a factor, along with year-to-year variance (tOSU at 5?). We should be in the top 5 more times than not if we want to compete.

Is seems like recruiting success & money spent are only loosely related though, aka OSU for high recruiting and others on that list who are spending without success.

On a related note here is another article about MSU football this year.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2023/04/michigan-states-maliq-carr-looking-to-live-up-to-own-expectations.html

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