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Post by Cym Jim 2014-11-25, 10:30

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Go White!!
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Post by duffy munn 2014-11-25, 10:31

Robert J Sakimano wrote:it's actually much more simple than conservatives, their friends in the mainstream media and the government would like you to believe.

did the black kid act stupidly? Yes, it certain seems so. However, acting stupidly doesn't deserve the death penalty. At least not with me.. obviously some people don't have a problem with it and, in fact, celebrate it.

but, it's the America we live in. As SteveSchneider had intimated more than once in this thread, there really are two different sets of rules.. unarmed black kids can get shot with no repercussion.. white kids who commit mass murders are allowed their day in court.

Hard to dispute the simplicity of that. But I'm certain someone will try.

I'm neither conservative or liberal. All politics are stupid. My only point is that maybe, just maybe this kid was dangerous. Pardon the pun but this case is not simply black and white.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:32

another interesting aspect to conservatives celebrating the death of Michael Brown and the entertainment they gain from the subsequent fallout is how beholden they are to what they seem to believe are the "facts" as presented by the government.

Keep in mind that these are the same people who don't trust the government when a black man is in the White House - yet, when the shooting of an unarmed black kid is at issue, they suddenly refer to the government and their "facts" as justification for their celebration.

they're an odd bunch. Predictable but still odd.

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Post by Blanch32 2014-11-25, 10:32

CORNER BLITZ wrote:I don't think there's anything more annoying than the most granola mfers i know posting about "white privilege"

This. Old male White profs should give tenure if they truly believe what they teach, but they won't
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Post by Toe 2014-11-25, 10:32

tTito wrote:

As George Castanza once said: "It's not a lie if you believe it's true"


protestors: "it's not the truth, if you believe it's a lie."
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:33

duffy munn wrote:

I'm neither conservative or liberal. All politics are stupid. My only point is that maybe, just maybe this kid was dangerous. Pardon the pun but this case is not simply black and white.
that's cool.
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Post by tTito 2014-11-25, 10:33

Toe wrote:

If Mike Brown had complied with Wilson, rather than attack him, he'd be alive today.
Hard to dispute the simplicity of that, but I predict you will.

Sorry, common sense does not fit the agenda.
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Post by Blanch32 2014-11-25, 10:34

...and guarentee a living brown would have straight robbed 99% of the white people defending his death
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:36

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There might be Bob but statistically they will be shot by another black male. But that's only important if you believe FACTS.

"...most homicides involving one victim and one
offender were intraracial. About 93% of black homicide victims
and 85% of white victims in single victim and single
offender homicides were murdered by someone of their
race."

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

oh yeah.. I also forgot that it's only when a white guy murders an unarmed black kid that white folks suddenly become concerned with "black on black" crime..

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:37

Toe wrote:

If Mike Brown had complied with Wilson, rather than attack him, he'd be alive today.
Hard to dispute the simplicity of that, but I predict you will.
you trust the government and their story much more than I do.. stay tuned to the mainstream media. They'll tell you what to believe.

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Post by The_Dude 2014-11-25, 10:38

How disgusting is it that people are defending the actions of a violent thug who tried to kill an honest cop?

Is this really where you are at liberals? And you wonder why your party is an epic mess of failure and corruption with record number of people on welfare?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:39

for all of the white folks that are suddenly concerned with black on black crime.. in an attempt to divert attention away from a white guy who murdered an unarmed black kid:

12 Things White People Can Do Now Because of Ferguson


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Post by Cym Jim 2014-11-25, 10:39

CheesySpartan wrote:

There might be Bob but statistically they will be shot by another black male.  But that's only important if you believe FACTS.

"...most homicides involving one victim and one
offender were intraracial. About 93% of black homicide victims
and 85% of white victims in single victim and single
offender homicides were murdered by someone of their
race."

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

So one would expect punishments to be similar for whites and blacks, no? But for some reason when white people kill black people the chances of them getting away with it are much, much higher. There's even about an 11x chance of getting the death penalty if you kill a white person than a black person!

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Post by Cym Jim 2014-11-25, 10:42

Robert J Sakimano wrote:another interesting aspect to conservatives celebrating the death of Michael Brown and the entertainment they gain from the subsequent fallout is how beholden they are to what they seem to believe are the "facts" as presented by the government.

Keep in mind that these are the same people who don't trust the government when a black man is in the White House - yet, when the shooting of an unarmed black kid is at issue, they suddenly refer to the government and their "facts" as justification for their celebration.

they're an odd bunch. Predictable but still odd.

I'm enjoying their nuanced understanding of societal structures and pressures that result in looting during events like these. I believe their thesis is called "Black Animals".
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2014-11-25, 10:42

steveschneider wrote:Pretty amazing that a white kid can go to a political rally, shoot a representative in the head, open fire on the crowd and he gets his day in court.

I suppose the cops could have just started shooting at the white kid amongst the crowd of people he was in. That would have been the most rational thing to do, right?
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Post by The_Dude 2014-11-25, 10:44

Seriously? Can one liberal ITT just say that mike brown is dead because he attacked a cop? Why is it so hard? It's a proven fact and liberals still can't say it. Holy delusional, Batman.
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Post by InTenSity 2014-11-25, 10:45

Jake from State Farm wrote:

I suppose the cops could have just started shooting at the white kid amongst the crowd of people he was in. That would have been the most rational thing to do, right?
They got him outside the theatre, not inside.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:45

Cym Jim wrote:
I'm enjoying their nuanced understanding of societal structures and pressures that result in looting during events like these. I believe their thesis is called "Black Animals".
black people have no idea how good their lives would be right now if they simply had voted for McCain and Palin..



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Post by CheesySpartan 2014-11-25, 10:46

Robert J Sakimano wrote:oh yeah.. I also forgot that it's only when a white guy murders an unarmed black kid that white folks suddenly become concerned with "black on black" crime..

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I'm just stating FACTS Bob unlike your broad based opinions.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2014-11-25, 10:47

InTenSity wrote:
They got him outside the theatre, not inside.

You're confusing that shooting with a different shooting.
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Post by The_Dude 2014-11-25, 10:48

How funny is it that liberals who love government and champion it whenever they can are now all of a sudden saying government sucks and can't be trusted because a grand jury made up of 12 civilians didn't agree with their narrative? Lmfao
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Post by Cym Jim 2014-11-25, 10:49

Robert J Sakimano wrote:black people have no idea how good their lives would be right now if they simply had voted for McCain and Palin..

I just hope this blows over quickly so we can get back to then real issues facing America - the persecution of Christians and Christmastime and the lack of mangers in our public gathering places.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:49

CheesySpartan wrote:

I'm just stating FACTS Bob unlike your broad based opinions.
so your fact is that Michael Brown would be alive had complied with the guy that murdered him?

solid fact... I have no idea how you know that, but I'll take it that you believe it to be true.


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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2014-11-25, 10:50

Cym Jim wrote:

I just hope this blows over quickly so we can get back to then real issues facing America - the persecution of Christians and Christmastime and the lack of mangers in our public gathering places.
ya know, I do hope that Fox News is able to cut away from their race-baiting tactics to cover the ongoing War on Christmas..

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Post by InTenSity 2014-11-25, 10:52

Jake from State Farm wrote:

You're confusing that shooting with a different shooting.
I thought you were talking about the Colorado shooting at the beginning of ...Batman, I think. What shooting are you talking about?
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Post by Cym Jim 2014-11-25, 10:55

Robert J Sakimano wrote:ya know, I do hope that Fox News is able to cut away from their race-baiting tactics to cover the ongoing War on Christmas..

This all could have been avoided if Mr. Brown had found a place for Jesus in his cold black heart.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2014-11-25, 10:56

InTenSity wrote:
I thought you were talking about the Colorado shooting at the beginning of ...Batman, I think. What shooting are you talking about?

The gabby Giffords shooting at the political rally in the supermarket parking lot.

steveschneider wrote: Pretty amazing that a white kid can go to a political rally, shoot a representative in the head, open fire on the crowd and he gets his day in court.
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Post by InTenSity 2014-11-25, 10:58

Jake from State Farm wrote:

The gabby Giffords shooting at the political rally in the supermarket parking lot.

steveschneider wrote:  Pretty amazing that a white kid can go to a political rally, shoot a representative in the head, open fire on the crowd and he gets his day in court.
Ahhh, I missed that one, I was referencing this one.


I find it interesting that a white kid can go into a movie theater slaughter a bunch of the audience and he gets taken in live to get his day in court.
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Post by LoneWolfSparty 2014-11-25, 10:59

Leaving for lunch. I'll report back on how many unarmed black kids I see the po po shoot on the way there and back.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2014-11-25, 11:00

LoneWolfSparty wrote:Leaving for lunch. I'll report back on how many unarmed black kids I see the po po  shoot on the way there and back.
You just stole a Bob style joke. Does that make you feel unclean?
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Post by CheesySpartan 2014-11-25, 11:02

Cym Jim wrote:
So one would expect punishments to be similar for whites and blacks, no? But for some reason when white people kill black people the chances of them getting away with it are much, much higher. There's even about an 11x chance of getting the death penalty if you kill a white person than a black person!

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First of all where is that data from? I used the US Dept of Justice for mine.
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Post by steveschneider 2014-11-25, 11:06

Robert J Sakimano wrote:ya know, I do hope that Fox News is able to cut away from their race-baiting tactics to cover the ongoing War on Christmas..

Robert J Sakimano wrote:ya know, I do hope that Fox News is able to cut away from their race-baiting tactics to cover the ongoing War on Christmas..


I have a question about the war on Christmas...is it wrong for me to get upset at the neighbors that keep their decorations up until January or longer? I think it's obnoxious at that point, or is it because I'm a "hippie" that doesn't understand all of the "facts".


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Post by CheesySpartan 2014-11-25, 11:06

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so your fact is that Michael Brown would be alive had complied with the guy that murdered him?

solid fact... I have no idea how you know that, but I'll take it that you believe it to be true.



I never said that and have no idea.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2014-11-25, 11:08

InTenSity wrote:
Ahhh, I missed that one, I was referencing this one.




It helped that the perp was dressed like a cop in a swat uniform and didn't offer any resistance. If he would have tried to grab a cops gun and then charged a cop afterwards he would probably be just as dead as the guy in Ferguson.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2014-11-25, 11:10

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
You just stole a Bob style joke. Does that make you feel unclean?

Bee is used to stealing content. (right wing radio, editorials, tv)
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2014-11-25, 11:11

Jake from State Farm wrote:

It helped that the perp was dressed like a cop in a swat uniform and didn't offer any resistance. If he would have tried to grab a cops gun and then charged a cop afterwards he would probably be just as dead as the guy in Ferguson.

This is the key.
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Post by tig ol bitties 2014-11-25, 11:13

Maybe I'm just a naive white dude, but I trust the prosecutor and grand jury to do their job.

always weird that politics somehow plays into "these" things.
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Post by The_Dude 2014-11-25, 11:14

Jake from State Farm wrote:

The gabby Giffords shooting at the political rally in the supermarket parking lot.

steveschneider wrote: Pretty amazing that a white kid can go to a political rally, shoot a representative in the head, open fire on the crowd and he gets his day in court.

How are people like you still this ignorant on how our legal system works?

Do you seriously not understand cases just don't 'go to trial?' That there must be probable cause?

Do liberals choose to be this ignorant? They have to be. Professional trolls.
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Post by kingstonlake 2014-11-25, 11:17

The_Dude wrote:How funny is it that liberals who love government and champion it whenever they can are now all of a sudden saying government sucks and can't be trusted because a grand jury made up of 12 civilians didn't agree with their narrative? Lmfao

I am generally liberal in most political and social issues. But I happen to think that the police officer in this case was justified in his use of force.

That being said I find your generalizations of liberals and conservatives some of the most ignorant, uninformed, knuckle dragging bullshit I've ever seen on a message board. Revel in your desire to mingle with the lowest common denominator of American society.
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