So... What did Bullough DO?

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

His Dad wanted him suspended. Enough said.

That makes it sounds like Dantonio had a choice. I always figured it had to be an NCAA drug test. It can't be some legal issue because it never made the papers. I just can't see him being suspended over some secret thing he otherwise would have got away with (and have everyone speculating, have to explain to NFL, etc).
Somehow I think it must be really bad whatever he did. No need to keep it a big secret otherwise and have people think the worst. But that is the route they chose. Unfortunately, it will always put a black mark on the Rose Bowl, at least until Max has the courage to speak.

This is your first post in this thread. You specifically say "it will always put a black mark on the Rose Bowl".

It doesn't. At all.

Do you get that yet?

Blanch32 wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

We got over it in like 2 posts each. You and blanch can't stop playing who gets the last word.

Can we at least agree the rods on tRCMB and rivals are cringing everyone this thread is bumped here?

I'm starting to cringe every time this thread is bumped on here.

NigelUno wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

That makes it sounds like Dantonio had a choice. I always figured it had to be an NCAA drug test. It can't be some legal issue because it never made the papers. I just can't see him being suspended over some secret thing he otherwise would have got away with (and have everyone speculating, have to explain to NFL, etc).
Somehow I think it must be really bad whatever he did. No need to keep it a big secret otherwise and have people think the worst. But that is the route they chose. Unfortunately, it will always put a black mark on the Rose Bowl, at least until Max has the courage to speak.

This is your first post in this thread. You specifically say "it will always put a black mark on the Rose Bowl".

It doesn't. At all.

Do you get that yet?

Yes. It. Does.

Reread my "size" post

Herbie Green wrote:The black mark may be miniscule but it is still there.

And my very next post. The fact that we are even having this discussion passes the "miniscule" test.

Herbie Green wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:The black mark may be miniscule but it is still there.

And my very next post. The fact that we are even having this discussion passes the "miniscule" test.

How is it a black mark on the Rose Bowl? A game he didn't play in?

We aren't having a discussion about whether it's a black mark on the Rose Bowl.

Virtually everyone (excluding blanch) agrees that it wasn't a black mark on the Rose Bowl.

But, you 2 are right? And one of you is intentionally pretending to be an idiot. So, it's you and a guy pretending to be an idiot. Congrats?

Blanch32 wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

This is your first post in this thread. You specifically say "it will always put a black mark on the Rose Bowl".

It doesn't. At all.

Do you get that yet?

Yes. It. Does.

Reread my "size" post

Note to all:

If you voted that blanch is just pretending to be an idiot, and would like to change your vote to blanch is an idiot (and not pretending)...I enabled the vote changing thing.

You're welcome.

NigelUno wrote:

Blanch32 wrote:

Yes. It. Does.

Reread my "size" post

Note to all:

If you voted that blanch is just pretending to be an idiot, and would like to change your vote to blanch is an idiot (and not pretending)...I enabled the vote changing thing.

You're welcome.

Evidently you can vote for more than one choice

Blanch32 wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

You really struggle to seperate the context of posts. The only point specifically here is that Bullough being suspended has nothing to do with the actual severity of the trangression. Since we don't know we are left to wonder. That was the premise of the thread going back to the first post.

HG,

They just don't get it. These simple tons take things at face value if it helps msu and digs deeper when it doesnt.

Otherwise, these same folks better have been ultra shocked at mandrichs omissions and the uofm ball santions

Meh, everyone knew Tony was juicing. 75% of college football was. Lots of people know what Max did. We won those Rosebowls.

Yep.

Herbie Green wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:The black mark may be miniscule but it is still there.

And my very next post. The fact that we are even having this discussion passes the "miniscule" test.

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

NigelUno wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

And my very next post. The fact that we are even having this discussion passes the "miniscule" test.

How is it a black mark on the Rose Bowl? A game he didn't play in?

We aren't having a discussion about whether it's a black mark on the Rose Bowl.

Virtually everyone (excluding blanch) agrees that it wasn't a black mark on the Rose Bowl.

But, you 2 are right? And one of you is intentionally pretending to be an idiot. So, it's you and a guy pretending to be an idiot. Congrats?

Nigel,

When will you realize you will never speak for "everyone?"

DWags wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

And my very next post. The fact that we are even having this discussion passes the "miniscule" test.

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

Don't kid yourself we are thought leaders.

Granted by default since 99% of Spartan fans post in communism

DWags wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

And my very next post. The fact that we are even having this discussion passes the "miniscule" test.

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans. Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor. Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids? "He wasn't. And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm. Because it's a secret!"

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans. Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor. Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids? "He wasn't. And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm. Because it's a secret!"

"Because he instead violated team rules. Case closed. Face on you. End of discussion. Mission accomplished!"

Nigel,

I want to play in the 2016 rose bowl. Want to join me?

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans. Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor. Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids? "He wasn't. And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm. Because it's a secret!"

Are people bringing this up? I suppose they could bring it up. I'd just say that there is no proof that he was juicing. I guess I just don't understand why it would matter. um fans have been accusing the whole D of juicing, since Coach D's second year. I'd probably laugh at the person and tell them to give me any shred of evidence that points towards steroid use.

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans. Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor. Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids? "He wasn't. And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm. Because it's a secret!"

Is that what this is about? How you want to answer some jackass Walmart fans? Jesus make something up, ignore them, punch them in the face or agree with them. You seriously have people who say that to you so you need to know the truth? If you told it to those who are saying he was juiced you think they'll believe anything you say?

Fuck them. Just say "how'd you like that 4th and 1 play". Till they leave or kick you in tour nuts.

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count.  But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.  

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans.  Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor.  Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids?  "He wasn't.  And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm.  Because it's a secret!"

And there you have it.  

You don't need to explain yourself any more.

Blanch32 wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

How is it a black mark on the Rose Bowl? A game he didn't play in?

We aren't having a discussion about whether it's a black mark on the Rose Bowl.

Virtually everyone (excluding blanch) agrees that it wasn't a black mark on the Rose Bowl.

But, you 2 are right? And one of you is intentionally pretending to be an idiot. So, it's you and a guy pretending to be an idiot. Congrats?

Nigel,

When will you realize you will never speak for "everyone?"

I'm not. What's even better...is that you sure as hell aren't. Unless you're speaking for all the idiots out there? Let me know.

Herbie Green wrote:
What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids?

Say:

"The same ones Lewan was on?"

Or:

"At least he didn't rape some one."

Or:

"How do you know he was on steroids?"

Or:

"Did you even go to UM?"

Or:

"Who gives a fuck what you think?"

(Are you writing these down?  Or am I going too fast?)

NigelUno wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans.  Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor.  Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids?  "He wasn't.  And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm.  Because it's a secret!"

And there you have it.  

You don't need to explain yourself any more.

Yep. And the OP edited his original post.

Whatever.

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

There are about six of us having this discussion. And I'm a homophobic sexist on a board without much traffic. I don't think out of the millions who watched the game we really count. But maybe we have an over arching sense of self worth.

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans. Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor. Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids? "He wasn't. And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm. Because it's a secret!"

Is that what gives it this "black mark"? Because your UM buddies make unfounded accusations? How many UM/Wisconsin/Purdue fans have accused Izzo of cheating? What do you say to them?

Or maybe say to them that Harbaugh killed 20 hookers while at UM, because there is about as much evidence of that.

Jesus, no wonder you're so miserable and are always worrying about some unknown dark cloud coming your way. If you base a part of your happiness and enjoyment of MSU athletics on what some UM idiots will say or think, then you're bound for misery.

I should have known that one single mention of UM would cause the defenders to go full tilt.

Herbie Green wrote:I should have known that one single mention of UM would cause the defenders to go full tilt.

Help me out. What the fuck am I defending?

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Blanch32 wrote:

Can we at least agree the rods on tRCMB and rivals are cringing everyone this thread is bumped here?

I'm starting to cringe every time this thread is bumped on here.

Are you kidding? This is great! I did not see this coming at all.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

Well that would make for 33% of MSU fans. Although I agree this might not be a good representative sample.

I don't know people in real life that go to these great lengths to defend the Spartan honor. Well, they might if they were being attacked from the outside.

What do I say to a UM fan that says Bullough was on steroids? "He wasn't. And I know that for a fact, because....because ummmmm. Because it's a secret!"

Is that what gives it this "black mark"? Because your UM buddies make unfounded accusations? How many UM/Wisconsin/Purdue fans have accused Izzo of cheating? What do you say to them?

Or maybe say to them that Harbaugh killed 20 hookers while at UM, because there is about as much evidence of that.

Jesus, no wonder you're so miserable and are always worrying about some unknown dark cloud coming your way. If you base a part of your happiness and enjoyment of MSU athletics on what some UM idiots will say or think, then you're bound for misery.

This coming from a guy who openly roots against UM to the point where them losing could give MSU a championship.

Herbie Green wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Is that what gives it this "black mark"? Because your UM buddies make unfounded accusations? How many UM/Wisconsin/Purdue fans have accused Izzo of cheating? What do you say to them?

Or maybe say to them that Harbaugh killed 20 hookers while at UM, because there is about as much evidence of that.

Jesus, no wonder you're so miserable and are always worrying about some unknown dark cloud coming your way. If you base a part of your happiness and enjoyment of MSU athletics on what some UM idiots will say or think, then you're bound for misery.

This coming from a guy who openly roots against UM to the point where them losing could give MSU a championship.

You keep track of that? The fuck is wrong with you?

DWags wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:I should have known that one single mention of UM would cause the defenders to go full tilt.

Help me out. What the fuck am I defending?

I am not wven sure any more but people seem to get really upset if the topic is brought up.

The better question might be who we are trying to defend this from? I figured it might be from UM.

DWags wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

This coming from a guy who openly roots against UM to the point where them losing could give MSU a championship.

You keep track of that? The fuck is wrong with you?

Well it was quite an argument and about 10x worse than this on a bang head scale.

Herbie Green wrote:

DWags wrote:

Help me out. What the fuck am I defending?

I am not wven sure any more but people seem to get really upset if the topic is brought up.

The better question might be who we are trying to defend this from? I figured it might be from UM.

The guy who started this doesn't know, has edited his original post, and can't explain why he needs to know. As a homophobic sexist who thinks he's a pussy I can't even tell you why I'm in here. I do know that if I find out max raped jerry Sandusky as dantonios daughters watched and injected him with steroids I could give a fuck if a wolverine friend brought it up. I enjoyed the Rosebowls. Fuck em. Now watch that pussy say I'm racist or something.

I don't even understand this thread.

Herbie Green wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Is that what gives it this "black mark"? Because your UM buddies make unfounded accusations? How many UM/Wisconsin/Purdue fans have accused Izzo of cheating? What do you say to them?

Or maybe say to them that Harbaugh killed 20 hookers while at UM, because there is about as much evidence of that.

Jesus, no wonder you're so miserable and are always worrying about some unknown dark cloud coming your way. If you base a part of your happiness and enjoyment of MSU athletics on what some UM idiots will say or think, then you're bound for misery.

This coming from a guy who openly roots against UM to the point where them losing could give MSU a championship.

Wait. Was that a hypothetical argument? What would his rooting against UM mean in that scenario? Would it help UM win or lose? And WTF does that have to do with you not having a clever retort for some dumb ass Michigan fan that apparently has tormented you so much that you brought your angst to this thread?

Or are you just deflecting? Again.

Herbie Green wrote:I should have known that one single mention of UM would cause the defenders to go full tilt.

Ummm...chooch?

You're on tilt because a UM fan can upset you with some black mark nonsense about the Rose Bowl.

But, I'm sure you don't see that.

DWags wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

I am not wven sure any more but people seem to get really upset if the topic is brought up.

The better question might be who we are trying to defend this from? I figured it might be from UM.

The guy who started this doesn't know, has edited his original post, and can't explain why he needs to know. As a homophobic sexist who thinks he's a pussy I can't even tell you why I'm in here. I do know that if I find out max raped jerry Sandusky as dantonios daughters watched and injected him with steroids I could give a fuck if a wolverine friend brought it up. I enjoyed the Rosebowls. Fuck em. Now watch that pussy say I'm racist or something.

You are so mad at me right now. How does that feel? Like really I want to know how it feels to give a shit about what randos say about you on the internet.

Also why did everyone discount Duffy's post in this thread? Too outlandish? I didn't think so.

Rocinante wrote:

DWags wrote:

The guy who started this doesn't know, has edited his original post, and can't explain why he needs to know. As a homophobic sexist who thinks he's a pussy I can't even tell you why I'm in here. I do know that if I find out max raped jerry Sandusky as dantonios daughters watched and injected him with steroids I could give a fuck if a wolverine friend brought it up. I enjoyed the Rosebowls. Fuck em. Now watch that pussy say I'm racist or something.

You are so mad at me right now. How does that feel? Like really I want to know how it feels to give a shit about what randos say about you on the internet.

Did you just say "randos"?

Good lord you're a pussy.

NigelUno wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:I should have known that one single mention of UM would cause the defenders to go full tilt.

Ummm...chooch?

You're on tilt because a UM fan can upset you with some black mark nonsense about the Rose Bowl.

But, I'm sure you don't see that.

I wouldn't waste your time with this "obsessed little Sparty hiding in his parent's basement afraid of UM" angle. It doesn't even register. That is my #1 problem with what the RCMB became. It is just day after day after day of scum this scum that. Say anything against the party line and you are downvoted, called a scum fan and possibly banned. And now that camp is about all that is left.

Don't get me wrong, I do find a lot of what they do amusimg. And I really do hate them - to the point I don’t even bother engaging them. I would just ignore it. Although I guess I do have one UM "friend" that I have an ongoing flaming email war with and this could come up. But I think I will be able to handle this one little black mark.

This thread is warm, seedy and mushy.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't even understand this thread.

I keep scrolling past paragraph-long posts. Can't even bring myself to care. Who's right? Who's wrong? Who gives a flying fuck? Not. Me.

I got a fuckin' Rose Bowl mug, a fuckin' Rose Bowl travel mug, and a fuckin' Rose Bowl T-shirt. Fuck the haters, the scUMmers, the doubters, everyone who isn't as happy as I am that MSU WON THE FUCKIN' ROSE BOWL.

Jesus, you people seriously need an attitude check.

Herbie Green wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Ummm...chooch?

You're on tilt because a UM fan can upset you with some black mark nonsense about the Rose Bowl.

But, I'm sure you don't see that.

I wouldn't waste your time with this "obsessed little Sparty hiding in his parent's basement afraid of UM" angle. It doesn't even register. That is my #1 problem with what the RCMB became. It is just day after day after day of scum this scum that. Say anything against the party line and you are downvoted, called a scum fan and possibly banned. And now that camp is about all that is left.

Don't get me wrong, I do find a lot of what they do amusimg. And I really do hate them - to the point I don’t even bother engaging them. I would just ignore it. Although I guess I do have one UM "friend" that I have an ongoing flaming email war with and this could come up. But I think I will be able to handle this one little black mark.

Jesus.