Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
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Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
I guess it is partly because....
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/football/2015-08-08/tate-zooks-quote-raises-concerns.html
...admission limitations are hurtful because rivals like Nebraska and Michigan State readily accept student-athletes that the UI rejects.
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/football/2015-08-08/tate-zooks-quote-raises-concerns.html
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
Zook was supposedly the king of recruiting. What a shit excuse by Zook.
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Jethro Bodeen wrote:Zook was supposedly the king of recruiting. What a shit excuse by Zook.
This is now the go to excuse. There are only a few schools that can invoke admissions standards. IU is not one of them.
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IU isn't that great at football either, but not sure what they have to do with UI.Turtleneck wrote:Jethro Bodeen wrote:Zook was supposedly the king of recruiting. What a shit excuse by Zook.
This is now the go to excuse. There are only a few schools that can invoke admissions standards. IU is not one of them.
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InTenSity wrote:IU isn't that great at football either, but not sure what they have to do with UI.Turtleneck wrote:
This is now the go to excuse. There are only a few schools that can invoke admissions standards. IU is not one of them.
Speaking of IU, I hate them so much.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
They really should be good but they haven't been in 50 years.
44,000 students
$2 billion endowment
Illinois has 12 million people and is the 5th most populous state.
They've only been ranked 6 times in the last 50 years.
1983 (10/10), 1989 (10/10), 1990 (25/24), 1999 (24/25), 2001 (12/12) and 2007 (20/18). (AP/Coaches)
44,000 students
$2 billion endowment
Illinois has 12 million people and is the 5th most populous state.
They've only been ranked 6 times in the last 50 years.
1983 (10/10), 1989 (10/10), 1990 (25/24), 1999 (24/25), 2001 (12/12) and 2007 (20/18). (AP/Coaches)
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Turtleneck wrote:InTenSity wrote:
IU isn't that great at football either, but not sure what they have to do with UI.
Speaking of IU, I hate them so much.
Forks down!
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
They probably have had bad leadership for a long time, at least when it comes to athletics. I guess it's almost similar to MSU in the 70s-early 00's in a way, because I think both schools have similar enough profiles that Illinois could have success similar to ours if they got the right guy.
And speaking of the right guy, they are in trouble for the time being, because that AD is cash-strapped and I believe they're still paying off the Zook contract. They won't have a lot of money for whoever is next, so it's going to have to be the right hire or they're in more trouble.
And speaking of the right guy, they are in trouble for the time being, because that AD is cash-strapped and I believe they're still paying off the Zook contract. They won't have a lot of money for whoever is next, so it's going to have to be the right hire or they're in more trouble.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
It's because OSKEE
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
Fuck ANY college sports program that puts up a lame excuse that their 'high academic' standards keeps them from winning.
If Duke, Berkeley, UCLA, Notre Dame, Michigan and Harvard (basketball) can lower their standards so can they.
Athletes aren't going there to play school, they are going there to play sports.
If Duke, Berkeley, UCLA, Notre Dame, Michigan and Harvard (basketball) can lower their standards so can they.
Athletes aren't going there to play school, they are going there to play sports.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
In the recent past the best team records were followed by NCAA probations.
I think a lot of it is location and recruiting areas. Chicago to Champaigne-Urbana seems like one of the longestdrives in the Big Ten. ND and umaa have recruited Chicago for decades, Northwestern jumped in in the last 20 years and exceptional players get national attention. Mizzou recruits St. Louis and downstate IL pretty well.
I think a lot of it is location and recruiting areas. Chicago to Champaigne-Urbana seems like one of the longestdrives in the Big Ten. ND and umaa have recruited Chicago for decades, Northwestern jumped in in the last 20 years and exceptional players get national attention. Mizzou recruits St. Louis and downstate IL pretty well.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
The Badgers have been using the same excuse the last few years...laughable IMO.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
Bad athletic department.
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Football purgatory for cheating during the Mike White era.
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Floyd Robertson wrote:Football purgatory for cheating during the Mike White era.
They had a CB named Swope. He was a damn good player. He was acquitted for dealing a suitcase full of cocaine. ( He looked guilty as sin ****but*** he was acquitted ) They were loaded with players under White and they were known as playing dirty. In Georges Perles' 1st year, when they'd just come off a big win over ND, I remember they targeted Dave Yarema and put him out of the game and out for the season. As Yarema was being carted off the field- the entire Illinois sideline both players and coaches were cheering wildly and high-fiving.( I was in the bleachers right behind the Illinois bench ). It made me sick. It ended the season for MSU for all practical purposes. They were then known as the "Biting Illini" back then and earned it.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
because they suck as a staff, record label and as a motherfucking crew
And if you want to be down with them, then you suck too
And if you want to be down with them, then you suck too
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
http://www.scout.com/college/illinois/story/1648740-breaking-whitman-dismisses-cubit
Because of shit like this
Because of shit like this
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
Jethro Bodeen wrote:Floyd Robertson wrote:Football purgatory for cheating during the Mike White era.
They had a CB named Swope. He was a damn good player. He was acquitted for dealing a suitcase full of cocaine. ( He looked guilty as sin ****but*** he was acquitted ) They were loaded with players under White and they were known as playing dirty. In Georges Perles' 1st year, when they'd just come off a big win over ND, I remember they targeted Dave Yarema and put him out of the game and out for the season. As Yarema was being carted off the field- the entire Illinois sideline both players and coaches were cheering wildly and high-fiving.( I was in the bleachers right behind the Illinois bench ). It made me sick. It ended the season for MSU for all practical purposes. They were then known as the "Biting Illini" back then and earned it.
I distinctly remember them putting MSU players out for the season with broken legs in consecutive seasons, back in the Lorenzo White era, or maybe a little before. Dirty as fuck, those bastards.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
SpartanInNH wrote:Jethro Bodeen wrote:
They had a CB named Swope. He was a damn good player. He was acquitted for dealing a suitcase full of cocaine. ( He looked guilty as sin ****but*** he was acquitted ) They were loaded with players under White and they were known as playing dirty. In Georges Perles' 1st year, when they'd just come off a big win over ND, I remember they targeted Dave Yarema and put him out of the game and out for the season. As Yarema was being carted off the field- the entire Illinois sideline both players and coaches were cheering wildly and high-fiving.( I was in the bleachers right behind the Illinois bench ). It made me sick. It ended the season for MSU for all practical purposes. They were then known as the "Biting Illini" back then and earned it.
I distinctly remember them putting MSU players out for the season with broken legs in consecutive seasons, back in the Lorenzo White era, or maybe a little before. Dirty as fuck, those bastards.
That was Mike White - he was old school.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
That ain't right
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
Oh, Illinois, my Illinois......
Report: Lovie Smith to be named Illinois football coach
Report: Lovie Smith to be named Illinois football coach
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
They just extended Lovie 2 more years
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Dr. Strangelove wrote:They just extended Lovie 2 more years
Stability will bring success.
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Can he recruit at Illinois? Can anyone recruit there? Lovie did a good job at Chicago but he’s stuck at a dead end job.
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"Lovie, why should we give you an extension"
"I've been to Indy as often as a guy making 7 million a year, won just as many divisional titles, and for a hell of alot less."
"Sign here"
"I've been to Indy as often as a guy making 7 million a year, won just as many divisional titles, and for a hell of alot less."
"Sign here"
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
Pretty interesting read regarding points one and two.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjW4u75ofDeAhVHhuAKHVFCAt8QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.offtackleempire.com%2F2018%2F4%2F19%2F17256714%2Fmythbusters-illinois-fighting-illini-edition-the-champaign-room-b1g-2018-coach-changes-football&psig=AOvVaw03iaNrGA9FIcWNyWw5irci&ust=1543260083533086
I don’t care enough about Illinois to read the whole thing but the author is clearly fan and covers Zooks to the current Lovie situation. Sounds like they view Lovie as their best option to get out of the mess created by the previous coach.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjW4u75ofDeAhVHhuAKHVFCAt8QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.offtackleempire.com%2F2018%2F4%2F19%2F17256714%2Fmythbusters-illinois-fighting-illini-edition-the-champaign-room-b1g-2018-coach-changes-football&psig=AOvVaw03iaNrGA9FIcWNyWw5irci&ust=1543260083533086
I don’t care enough about Illinois to read the whole thing but the author is clearly fan and covers Zooks to the current Lovie situation. Sounds like they view Lovie as their best option to get out of the mess created by the previous coach.
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Re: Why is Illinois Football so Bad?
kingstonlake wrote:"Lovie, why should we give you an extension"
"I've been to Indy as often as a guy making 7 million a year, won just as many divisional titles, and for a hell of alot less."
"Sign here"
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