Re: Never any media bias - well maybe just a little. All the time.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2022-03-31, 15:48

PennSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: wait a minute.. the "liberal media" isn't...{gulp}... liberal?

I never noticed.
The liberal media loves money just like the RWNJ media. Liberal media LOVED Donald Trump not because they agreed with him, but because they are greedy. All of these networks would be happy to see Trump re-elected.

exactly - which is why they worked so hard to get him elected.

I have been saying that now for, let's see.. 7 years?? 'ol Goose got so mad at me for saying that, he ended up leaving us. Never any media bias - well maybe just a little. All the time. - Page 26 502811600

Never any media bias - well maybe just a little. All the time. - Page 26 502811600

while it sucks to be right (I knew I was right all along, of course), I still miss my friend from Miokov.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2022-03-31, 15:51

I scrolled back to the first page.. May 25th, 2016.. the 13th post in this thread, I asked this question of 'ol Goose:

serious question (if you are willing to entertain a serious question): are you surprised to learn that the mainstream media lies, distorts the truth and flat out makes things up in the name of profit, capitalism and corporate America?

6 years ago. Rolling Eyes

by **NigelUno** 2022-03-31, 15:52

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
The liberal media loves money just like the RWNJ media. Liberal media LOVED Donald Trump not because they agreed with him, but because they are greedy. All of these networks would be happy to see Trump re-elected.
exactly - which is why they worked so hard to get him elected.

I have been saying that now for, let's see.. 7 years?? 'ol Goose got so mad at me for saying that, he ended up leaving us.

while it sucks to be right (I knew I was right all along, of course), I still miss my friend from Miokov.

And TV stations love Trump for another reason...(political) ad sales. In contested markets, they could literally name their price.

I guess that's kind of the same reason.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2022-03-31, 15:54

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
exactly - which is why they worked so hard to get him elected.

I have been saying that now for, let's see.. 7 years?? 'ol Goose got so mad at me for saying that, he ended up leaving us.

while it sucks to be right (I knew I was right all along, of course), I still miss my friend from Miokov.

And TV stations love Trump for another reason...ad sales. In contested markets, they could literally name their price.

I guess that's kind of the same reason.

yep.

getting the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator elected was the best thing the liberal media ever did for themselves.. and they're doing everything they can to do it again.

by **Trapper Gus** 2022-03-31, 20:29

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

And TV stations love Trump for another reason...ad sales. In contested markets, they could literally name their price.

I guess that's kind of the same reason.
yep.

getting the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator elected was the best thing the liberal media ever did for themselves.. and they're doing everything they can to do it again.

While Biden has brought the country back from the Trump train wreck the MSM is hyping every RWNJ lie they can find.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2022-04-01, 06:51

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
exactly - which is why they worked so hard to get him elected.

I have been saying that now for, let's see.. 7 years?? 'ol Goose got so mad at me for saying that, he ended up leaving us.

while it sucks to be right (I knew I was right all along, of course), I still miss my friend from Miokov.

And TV stations love Trump for another reason...(political) ad sales. In contested markets, they could literally name their price.

I guess that's kind of the same reason.

They literally can't. They are required by federal law to charge the lowest unit rate (i.e., the lowest that any advertiser is paying). Granted, they have different classes of time based on pre-emptibility (non-pre-emptible, pre-emptible with 2 days notice, with 2 week notice, etc.). Politicians will almost always buy the non pre-emptible spots, but has been that way forever (especially in contested markets), and it is still based on the lowest rate that any advertiser is paying for non-pre-emptible spots. Also worth noting is that the cable news networks on local cable systems make up a very small piece of the ad dollars that most politicians spend in major races.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2022-04-09, 06:11

lol the most trusted media outlet in the U.S. is The Weather Channel.

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by Rick Saunders 2022-04-11, 13:31

Floyd Robertson wrote:lol the most trusted media outlet in the U.S. is The Weather Channel.

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I'm not a fan of breaking everything down by partisan division. BUT, the first thing that strikes me is that the republicans in the study roughly trust no-one and nothing on the list. I'd say ok, there's nothing wrong with some healthy skepticism (including skepticism of this graphic).

The second thing that strikes me is that the republicans in the study trust OAN more than the WSJ and worse, more than Reuters and AP which are straight news. Democrats in the study, incidentally also trust CNN and MSNBC more than Reuters and CNN more than AP.

The fourth thing that strikes me is that republicans claim to know things. If (as according to this graphic) they don't trust any of these sources then how can they know things? If we collectively trust Meta, Twitter, and email attachments more than CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, and BBC then I hope anti-intellectualism has reached its peak.

Get a subscription to your local newspaper lady and gentlemen. The paper kind. Read it cover to cover. Add the NYT and WSJ if you can. Slow news is good news.

I'm no luddite but Jebus man have a little self respect, America.

Sorry everyone, that was a lot just to paraphrase Bob.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2022-04-11, 13:35

Rick Saunders wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:lol the most trusted media outlet in the U.S. is The Weather Channel.

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Sorry everyone, that was a lot just to paraphrase Bob.

Never any media bias - well maybe just a little. All the time. - Page 26 1486952199

good post.

by **NigelUno** 2022-04-11, 13:48

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

And TV stations love Trump for another reason...(political) ad sales. In contested markets, they could literally name their price.

I guess that's kind of the same reason.

They literally can't. They are required by federal law to charge the lowest unit rate (i.e., the lowest that any advertiser is paying). Granted, they have different classes of time based on pre-emptibility (non-pre-emptible, pre-emptible with 2 days notice, with 2 week notice, etc.). Politicians will almost always buy the non pre-emptible spots, but has been that way forever (especially in contested markets), and it is still based on the lowest rate that any advertiser is paying for non-pre-emptible spots. Also worth noting is that the cable news networks on local cable systems make up a very small piece of the ad dollars that most politicians spend in major races.

Seems like the lowest unit rate would change in an election year.

Supply and demand.

by **Trapper Gus** 2022-09-23, 08:40

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by **Trapper Gus** 2023-01-26, 16:11

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by **DWags** 2023-03-01, 09:17

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Why did we all know those motherfuckers were lying and our resident conservatives hardly made a peep?

And I’m talking all the way back to Goose and his nonsense. Were they willfully lying about not knowing Fox News was so phony, or was it just stupidity?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-03-01, 09:26

the irony of Guest - a committed patron to the mainstream media - starting a thread wherein he sees his mainstream media heroes collapse under oath.

It's a little bit different when the mainstream media just peddles their likes to the folks at home because they know how gullible they are, then how they change their tune when facing jail time under penalty of perjury.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-03-01, 09:27

DWags wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:[tw]1630335172632559616[/tw]

Why did we all know those motherfuckers were lying and our resident conservatives hardly made a peep?

And I’m talking all the way back to Goose and his nonsense. Were they willfully lying about not knowing Fox News was so phony, or was it just stupidity?

Based on the polling of what Republican voters believe it is about 50 / 50 as about 50% believe the election was stolen which would be the "stupidity" group.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-03-01, 09:30

Robert J Sakimano wrote:the irony of Guest - a committed patron to the mainstream media - starting a thread wherein he sees his mainstream media heroes collapse under oath.

It's a little bit different when the mainstream media just peddles their likes to the folks at home because they know how gullible they are, then how they change their tune when facing jail time under penalty of perjury.

Sort of odd, Bob, that you are being so nice to Fox News and the Murdock Media Empire which has a long history of knowing lying to the public.

You comment is more in line with tNYT which is a lemming organization chasing after "clicks"

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-03-25, 13:47

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-04-03, 18:54

In print coverage, from March 27 through March 30, 12 of the 21 total articles about the Covenant School shooting in the top five newspapers by circulation mentioned Biden’s call for an assault weapons ban. USA Today was the worst offender, only mentioning the call for a ban in one of its five articles on the shooting. In articles that mentioned Biden’s call for legislative action, only half also mentioned the GOP’s current and historical opposition to gun control efforts.

As the country navigates the aftermath of yet another mass shooting, the need for an assault weapons ban has become even clearer. As Everytown for Gun Safety’s Nick Suplina noted, “Assault weapons, especially when equipped with high-capacity magazines, make them [mass shootings] more deadly. … If something is legally and commonly available, you’re only increasing the likelihood that it will be misused and or fall into the hands of somebody who is prohibited from possessing them.” According to Everytown, we would see 70% fewer mass shooting deaths if Congress was to pass a federal assault weapons ban.

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/how-media-covered-bidens-renewed-call-assault-weapons-ban

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-04-29, 09:25

House Republicans are refusing to let the government keep paying its bills unless the Biden administration rolls back some of its signature achievements.

It’s a demand that neither the Senate nor Biden will ever agree to.

Raising the debt limit is a procedural move that allows the Treasury to make good on existing commitments. It’s not a budget bill.

But House Republicans appear to be ready to default on the debt if they don’t get their way. Such a default would be catastrophic for the U.S and world economies, and could permanently damage the dollar’s status as the de facto global currency.

Explaining it that way is simply good journalism.

But as usual, extremist Republicans have been enabled by media coverage that tries to split the difference, and treats what is essentially a hostage crisis created exclusively by one side as a normal, two-sided partisan squabble.

Indeed, our top political reporters now insist that the onus is on Biden to solve the problem.

Under the headline “Biden Faces His First Big Choice on Debt Limit,” New York Times reporter Jim Tankersley writes today that the issue “has put President Biden on the defensive, forcing him to confront a series of potentially painful choices at a perilous economic moment.”

https://presswatchers.org/2023/04/republicans-threaten-to-tank-economy-media-blames-biden/

When the public thinks up is down, it’s time to rethink coverage

https://presswatchers.org/2022/03/when-the-public-thinks-up-is-down-its-time-to-rethink-coverage/

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-05-09, 08:24

Were the allegations surrounding Clinton of the same order of magnitude as those surrounding Trump? It’s a question that journalists made no serious effort to answer during the 2016 campaign…

False equivalencies abound in today’s reporting. When journalists can’t, or won’t, distinguish between allegations directed at the Trump Foundation and those directed at the Clinton Foundation, there’s something seriously amiss….

The press historically has helped citizens recognize the difference between the earnest politician and the pretender. Today’s news coverage blurs the distinction.

https://presswatchers.org/2019/10/false-equivalence-fuels-political-journalisms-race-to-the-bottom/

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-05-09, 08:28

the more mainstream media you consume, the less informed you are.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-05-09, 08:48

Robert J Sakimano wrote:the more mainstream media you consume, the less informed you are.

The first rule of being informed is knowing that you want to be informed and knowing it takes more than watching the TeeVee.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-07-10, 09:15

https://america.substack.com/p/journalists-need-to-sound-the-alarm

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-07-14, 07:16

In Reliable Sources, CNN journalist Oliver Darcy reported today that three men associated with Rupert Murdoch in the early days of creating the Fox Corporation expressed their “deep disappointment for helping to give birth to Fox Broadcasting Company.” Preston Padden, Ken Solomon, and Bill Reyner wrote that they “never envisioned, and would not knowingly have enabled, the disinformation machine that, in our opinion, Fox has become.”

In emails, Murdoch made it “very clear” to Padden “that he understood that the 2020 election had not been stolen,” but “Fox continued to perpetuate the ‘Big Lie’ and promote the Jan 6 ‘Stop the Steal’ rally in D.C.” The men claimed that others who worked with them to establish Fox “share our resentment that the reputation of the Fox brand we helped to build has been ruined by false news.”

Padden told Darcy that he sees an “obvious connection between January 6 and Fox News.”

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-13-2023

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-07-14, 07:57

by **kingstonlake** 2023-08-04, 18:15

Hearing a lot of media pushing the narrative that Putin waiting out the 24 election in hopes of trump defunding Ukraine aid.

So if you’re a “moderate” gettin into your feels on the cost of aide to Ukraine…..

by **Cameron** 2024-09-24, 16:08

Multiple personalities at CNN showing their anti-Palestinian bias. Also some rather heinous dishonesty from our AG. Kinda disappointed in Big Gretch right now, too.

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by sεяεηιτλ 2024-09-25, 09:42

Cameron wrote:Multiple personalities at CNN showing their anti-Palestinian bias. Also some rather heinous dishonesty from our AG. Kinda disappointed in Big Gretch right now, too.

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You better be getting paid for all that OT work you've been doing for our enemies.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2024-09-25, 09:47

Can you indulge me and define “our enemies”

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-09-25, 21:59

Cameron wrote:Multiple personalities at CNN showing their anti-Palestinian bias. Also some rather heinous dishonesty from our AG. Kinda disappointed in Big Gretch right now, too.

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To.me this is typical protest politics. It is the responsibility of the "authorities" to maintain public order, which is what the UofM officials and the Michigan AG are doing.

It is the role of all protesters to claim they are being treated unfairly, basic standard protest handbook 101.

Unless they can point to protesters doing what they were doing but being treated differently they haven't got a case.

by **Cameron** 2024-09-25, 22:37

Trapper Gus wrote:
Cameron wrote:Multiple personalities at CNN showing their anti-Palestinian bias. Also some rather heinous dishonesty from our AG. Kinda disappointed in Big Gretch right now, too.

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To.me this is typical protest politics. It is the responsibility of the "authorities" to maintain public order, which is what the UofM officials and the Michigan AG are doing.

It is the role of all protesters to claim they are being treated unfairly, basic standard protest handbook 101.

Unless they can point to protesters doing what they were doing but being treated differently they haven't got a case.

Regardless, Tlaib did not say anything about Nessel's religion. Nessel also chose to use the occasion of Tlaib being the subject of a racist political cartoon to baselessly accuse Tlaib of being antisemitic. Rather disgusting behavior.

by **kingstonlake** 2024-09-26, 07:05

“We’ve had the right to dissent, the right to protest, We’ve done it for climate, the immigrant rights movement, for Black lives, and even around issues of injustice among water shutoffs. But it seems that the attorney general decided if the issue was Palestine, she was going to treat it differently, and that alone speaks volumes about possible biases within the agency she runs.”

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-09-26, 07:23

kingstonlake wrote:
“We’ve had the right to dissent, the right to protest, We’ve done it for climate, the immigrant rights movement, for Black lives, and even around issues of injustice among water shutoffs. But it seems that the attorney general decided if the issue was Palestine, she was going to treat it differently, and that alone speaks volumes about possible biases within the agency she runs.”

These protesters are not being treated differently than any other protesters, which is the point.

If protesters break the law and continue to break the same laws for extended periods of time, they are arrested and prosecuted.

As an example, the people who protested the overturning of Roe v Wade at the Supreme Court were arrested, including US Congresspeople.

Peaceful Assembly is certainly allowed, but there are rules, and when they are broken there are arrests.

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-11-19, 07:34

https://apnews.com/article/influencers-election-trump-harris-news-eacd42bce73d6e11cbc760caf28c993a

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2024/11/18/americas-news-influencers/

A unique Pew Research Center study provides a deeper understanding of both the makeup of the news influencer universe and its audience. The project includes an in-depth examination of a sample of 500 popular news influencers and the content they produce, derived from a review of more than 28,000 social media accounts. We also conducted a nationally representative survey of Americans to better understand who regularly gets news from news influencers.

Key findings about news influencers
About one-in-five Americans – including a much higher share of adults under 30 (37%) – say they regularly get news from influencers on social media.
News influencers are most likely to be found on the social media site X, where 85% have a presence. But many also are on other social media sites, such as Instagram (where 50% have an account) and YouTube (44%).
Slightly more news influencers explicitly identify as Republican, conservative or pro-Donald Trump (27% of news influencers) than Democratic, liberal or pro-Kamala Harris (21%).
A clear majority of news influencers are men (63%).
Most (77%) have no affiliation or background with a news organization.

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