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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:34 pm

My suspicion for tonight:

1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Wisconsin
4. Auburn
5. Alabama
6. Georgia

Ohio State beats Wisky, Auburn beats Georgia (if Kerryon is healthy), Clemson beats Miami.

Final four = Clemson, Auburn, Oklahoma, Alabama.
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Post by Herbie Green Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:50 pm

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No.  I think I would have gladly taken 100-1 if ND beat Miami.  I am sorry if you are incapable of understanding that.

So, you think Wisconsin is a lock if they go undefeated.

Thanks.

At this point in this season yes.  For the next 100 years an undefeated Big Ten team.  No.
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Post by DWags Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:52 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
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So, you think Wisconsin is a lock if they go undefeated.

Thanks.

At this point in this season yes.  For the next 100 years an undefeated Big Ten team.  No.

I’ll bet you 10k Vlad
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Post by Herbie Green Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:28 pm

Lol, undefeated Wisconsin only at #4 behind 3 teams with losses, one with two.
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Post by DWags Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:52 pm

Herbie Green wrote:Lol, undefeated Wisconsin only at #4 behind 3 teams with losses, one with two.

Does that mean if they win they’ll be out?
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Post by Turtleneck Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:54 pm

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:Lol, undefeated Wisconsin only at #4 behind 3 teams with losses, one with two.

Does that mean if they win they’ll be out?

I talked to Schilling about this, but Wisconsin is playing Michigan this week so he did not know.
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Post by Herbie Green Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:29 pm

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:Lol, undefeated Wisconsin only at #4 behind 3 teams with losses, one with two.

Does that mean if they win they’ll be out?  

It means we were just one team like a ND or USC from that being a real possibility.
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Post by DWags Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:49 pm

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Does that mean if they win they’ll be out?  

It means we were just one team like a ND or USC from that being a real possibility.

So, if they’re fourth and then they win, they’re out? Wow!!
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Post by Turtleneck Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:00 pm

This i so pointless. I am rooting for each of those four teams to lose just to see the chaos. If all four lose, who is in?
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Post by DWags Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:04 pm

Turtleneck wrote:This i so pointless. I am rooting for each of those four teams to lose just to see the chaos. If all four lose, who is in?

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Post by Turtleneck Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:08 pm

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:This i so pointless. I am rooting for each of those four teams to lose just to see the chaos. If all four lose, who is in?

CMU

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:23 pm

UCF Knights Verified account @UCFKnights 13h13 hours ago

Amazing what happens when an under “dog” gets a fair shot in an expanded playoff
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:37 pm

LooseGoose wrote:UCF Knights Verified account @UCFKnights 13h13 hours ago

Amazing what happens when an under “dog” gets a fair shot in an expanded playoff

Football is not basketball.
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Post by DWags Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:54 pm

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LooseGoose wrote:UCF Knights Verified account @UCFKnights 13h13 hours ago

Amazing what happens when an under “dog” gets a fair shot in an expanded playoff

Football is not basketball.

It’s not hockey or baseball either OTPT.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:02 pm

DWags wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Football is not basketball.

It’s not hockey or baseball either OTPT.

Nailed it
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:19 pm

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LooseGoose wrote:UCF Knights Verified account @UCFKnights 13h13 hours ago

Amazing what happens when an under “dog” gets a fair shot in an expanded playoff

Football is not basketball.

I'll archive this wisdom for the next time someone questions your intelligence.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:39 am

Can we put to bed the idea of expanding the playoff? I get that it's gonna happen anyway. I'd rather see MSU play Pitt or ND in the peach or fiesta bowl than Georgia (probably in a home game scenerio) and get 65 put on em.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:41 am

kingstonlake wrote:Can we put to bed the idea of expanding the playoff? I get that it's gonna happen anyway. I'd rather see MSU play Pitt or ND in the peach or fiesta bowl than Georgia (probably in a home game scenerio) and get 65 put on em.

The playoffs are to make more money, mostly.

Everyone knew Cinncy and Michigan were overmatched going in.

There is an argument OSU is the third best team, we will see how that holds today.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:54 am

kingstonlake wrote:Can we put to bed the idea of expanding the playoff? I get that it's gonna happen anyway. I'd rather see MSU play Pitt or ND in the peach or fiesta bowl than Georgia (probably in a home game scenerio) and get 65 put on em.
No, shitty take.
As um proved this year even a blind squirrel finds a nut... that said, I bet with the playoff structure the recruiting advantages might even out a bit. More kids would consider more teams.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:57 am

Also with 12, the top 2 would have byes and we might have another week of football.
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Post by Motown Spartan Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:01 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Also with 12, the top 2 would have byes and we might have another week of football.

The top 4 teams would get byes.
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Post by PennSpartan Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:25 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Can we put to bed the idea of expanding the playoff? I get that it's gonna happen anyway. I'd rather see MSU play Pitt or ND in the peach or fiesta bowl than Georgia (probably in a home game scenerio) and get 65 put on em.
No, shitty take.
As um proved this year even a blind squirrel finds a nut... that said, I bet with the playoff structure the recruiting advantages might even out a bit. More kids would consider more teams.
No. As the expanded basketball tournament has shown, it just means more teams that have no business getting in playing in half empty arenas.
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Post by NigelUno Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:38 am

Motown Spartan wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:Also with 12, the top 2 would have byes and we might have another week of football.

The top 4 teams would get byes.

People are still drunk in this thread.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:39 am

Expanding the playoffs without accordingly tweaking scholarship levels is just dumb.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:42 am

Motown Spartan wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:Also with 12, the top 2 would have byes and we might have another week of football.

The top 4 teams would get byes.

In a 12 team playoff probably. Maybe I should be a coward and delete my post...... Nah, that's for fragile ego poster types. CFB Playoff rankings - Page 4 2803167989
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:45 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Can we put to bed the idea of expanding the playoff? I get that it's gonna happen anyway. I'd rather see MSU play Pitt or ND in the peach or fiesta bowl than Georgia (probably in a home game scenerio) and get 65 put on em.

The playoffs are to make more money, mostly.

Everyone knew Cinncy and Michigan were overmatched going in.

There is an argument OSU is the third best team, we will see how that holds today.

There really isn’t an argument for that tbh
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Post by PennSpartan Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:47 am

kingstonlake wrote:Expanding the playoffs without accordingly tweaking scholarship levels is just dumb.
It would also just mean more SEC teams would get in. Unless you go with a system like the NFL which is based on records instead of polls, it’s pointless.
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Post by NigelUno Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:52 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

The playoffs are to make more money, mostly.

Everyone knew Cinncy and Michigan were overmatched going in.

There is an argument OSU is the third best team, we will see how that holds today.

There really isn’t an argument for that tbh

You must have missed some of the CFP rankings during the season.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:14 am

PennSpartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Expanding the playoffs without accordingly tweaking scholarship levels is just dumb.
It would also just mean more SEC teams would get in. Unless you go with a system like the NFL which is based on records instead of polls, it’s pointless.

Expanding the playoffs just doesn’t make sense to me unless you go with unlimited scholarships or non at all and pay them.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:29 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

The playoffs are to make more money, mostly.

Everyone knew Cinncy and Michigan were overmatched going in.

There is an argument OSU is the third best team, we will see how that holds today.

There really isn’t an argument for that tbh

The famous "eye test" says there is ...

Playing with half the team down with the flu in a snowstorm is not exactly a fair fight
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Post by MiamiSpartan Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:20 pm

The fact that the other major bowls have been rendered pretty pointless with players opting out, is the argument for expansion in my mind.

Granted, most won't have a shot at going all the way. But on the other hand, you may get a lower ranked team that had some things go against them (injuries, a bounce here or there) and lost a couple. I think of that Bama team we played in the Capital One Bowl that destroyed us. They were a very different team by that bowl than they were during the season that saw them lose 3 games. They could have competed with anyone by late Dec/Jan.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:21 pm

NigelUno wrote:
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There really isn’t an argument for that tbh

You must have missed some of the CFP rankings during the season.

You mean the ones that don’t actually mean anything? I probably did because they don’t mean anything. By the end there was no argument at all for osu to be in over Michigan
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Post by aualum06 Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:38 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:The fact that the other major bowls have been rendered pretty pointless with players opting out, is the argument for expansion in my mind.

Granted, most won't have a shot at going all the way. But on the other hand, you may get a lower ranked team that had some things go against them (injuries, a bounce here or there) and lost a couple. I think of that Bama team we played in the Capital One Bowl that destroyed us. They were a very different team by that bowl than they were during the season that saw them lose 3 games. They could have competed with anyone by late Dec/Jan.

Just go all conference champs and give everyone a shot. Don't like it win your league, not in a league, fuck off
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Post by MiamiSpartan Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:46 pm

aualum06 wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:The fact that the other major bowls have been rendered pretty pointless with players opting out, is the argument for expansion in my mind.

Granted, most won't have a shot at going all the way. But on the other hand, you may get a lower ranked team that had some things go against them (injuries, a bounce here or there) and lost a couple. I think of that Bama team we played in the Capital One Bowl that destroyed us. They were a very different team by that bowl than they were during the season that saw them lose 3 games. They could have competed with anyone by late Dec/Jan.

Just go all conference champs and give everyone a shot. Don't like it win your league, not in a league, fuck off

I have no problem with that either. Drop the Big XII and make it the Power 4, or add in 3 smaller conferences.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:02 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:The fact that the other major bowls have been rendered pretty pointless with players opting out, is the argument for expansion in my mind.

Granted, most won't have a shot at going all the way. But on the other hand, you may get a lower ranked team that had some things go against them (injuries, a bounce here or there) and lost a couple. I think of that Bama team we played in the Capital One Bowl that destroyed us. They were a very different team by that bowl than they were during the season that saw them lose 3 games. They could have competed with anyone by late Dec/Jan.

I hear ya. But just for arguments sake….

What was more entertaining? The cfp semi finals or msu/Pitt and pur/tenn? I don’t see how expanding as a stand alone makes it better. Not without some sort of talent balancing. Right now the ncaa is the nfl without a draft, unrestricted free agency signing, no salary cap, and no schedule balancing. It’s a talent hoard.
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Post by Turtleneck Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:09 pm

Something has to change. This is not enjoyable.

According to tSwill Research Department, in the 16 semi-final games played thus far, only 3 have been decided within 10 points, and in 15-16, 16-17, and 21-22, the semi-final losers combined for less than 20 points

Either the CFP committee routinely gets it wrong, or college football is extremely top heavy. If it's the latter not much can be done, but an expanded playoff would help if it's the former.

It's worth noting what we already know: college football is governed by greed and big brands. Almost every aspect of college football has been corrupted. For example, Hutchinson had no business being a Heisman finalist, but one game against OSU propelled him all the way to the runner-up. No reform will happen that doesn't make the greedy overseers and big brands happy.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:18 pm

I dunno, I mean the playoffs replaced the BCS where this year you would have had alabama destroying Michigan in the championship game. So in that way it’s functional. It’s not like the playoff championship is always 1 vs 2 even if those first two games are blowouts. I think that expanding the playoffs though only gives more games to watch blowouts as there really aren’t very many times where there are more than 2-3 teams that can compete on that elite level
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Post by Rocinante Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:25 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Either the CFP committee routinely gets it wrong, or college football is extremely top heavy. If it's the latter not much can be done, but an expanded playoff would help if it's the former.

It’s the latter.
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Post by NigelUno Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:07 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You must have missed some of the CFP rankings during the season.  

You mean the ones that don’t actually mean anything? I probably did because they don’t mean anything. By the end there was no argument at all for osu to be in over Michigan

OK.  If you missed them, then I guess not really anything to talk about.


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:13 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

You mean the ones that don’t actually mean anything? I probably did because they don’t mean anything. By the end there was no argument at all for osu to be in over Michigan

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

You mean the ones that don’t actually mean anything? I probably did because they don’t mean anything. By the end there was no argument at all for osu to be in over Michigan

OK. If you missed them, then I guess not really anything to talk about.

I didn’t actually miss them you dope.

Did you miss big daddy Ron’s playoff rankings after week 2? They’re just as relevant so we might as well discuss them.
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