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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 08:51

Which I agree are biased sources.
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Post by DWags 2018-03-25, 08:57

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DWags wrote:I just went to Facebook. Same thirty something puffy white guys who were angry about the woman’s march are off the rails pissed about these kids. I’m shocked.

You’re just jealous they have penises, Caitlyn.

Hey Bob Saget, the homicide rate falling is a result of more immigrants coming to the United States yearly. I mean if we’re doing random causation shit, let’s pick this.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 09:02

DWags wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

You’re just jealous they have penises, Caitlyn.

Hey Bob Saget, the homicide rate falling is a result of more immigrants coming to the United States yearly. I mean if we’re doing random causation shit, let’s pick this.
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I’m not making the argument that the more guns in circulation caused the fall in homicides. I’m arguing it doesn’t matter.
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Post by DWags 2018-03-25, 09:07

xsanguine wrote:
DWags wrote:

Hey Bob Saget, the homicide rate falling is a result of more immigrants coming to the United States yearly. I mean if we’re doing random causation shit, let’s pick this.
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I’m not making the argument that the more guns in circulation caused the fall in homicides. I’m arguing it doesn’t matter.

Well good, then let’s get rid of some Bobby. The kids were impressive yesterday. Many will be voting in 2018 and 2020. Angry middle age whit guys are going to need to really organize.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 09:15

BobSaget! I was trying to remember my other sign in! Thanks Dwags.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 09:15

DWags wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

I’m not making the argument that the more guns in circulation caused the fall in homicides. I’m arguing it doesn’t matter.

Well good, then let’s get rid of some Bobby. The kids were impressive yesterday. Many will be voting in 2018 and 2020. Angry middle age whit guys are going to need to really organize.

Yeah it’s the gradual decline in freedom. We have it a good run... back to democratic feudalism.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 09:19

Like the failed drug ban laws.... people adapt and change. I wouldn’t worry about availability of firearms. It just goes into the black market where a new line of business will open itself for cartels, the mob, etc.

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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 09:20

Hahahahaha... it even changes the name of the thing to gh0sts new alias.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 09:21

So after whatever new law passes we’ll be back here in 5-10 years talking about further ‘common sense gun laws’, rinse/repeat, till the only thing left to do is ban.

But they’re not coming for your freedoms.
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Post by BobSaget 2018-03-25, 09:23

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-03-25, 10:35

BobSaget wrote:#imwithhim

Hi X.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-03-25, 10:36

xsanguine wrote:
DWags wrote:

Well good, then let’s get rid of some Bobby. The kids were impressive yesterday. Many will be voting in 2018 and 2020. Angry middle age whit guys are going to need to really organize.

Yeah it’s the gradual decline in freedom. We have it a good run... back to democratic feudalism.

White guys have it so rough these days.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 11:07

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Yeah it’s the gradual decline in freedom. We have it a good run... back to democratic feudalism.

White guys have it so rough these days.

White guys these days are bitch made pussies.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-25, 11:07

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
BobSaget wrote:#imwithhim

Hi X.

Sup dawg!
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Post by BobSaget 2018-03-25, 11:08

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
BobSaget wrote:#imwithhim

Hi X.

Oops, I mean. Sup dawg!
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Post by Guest 2018-03-29, 11:27

Tell me again how this is the only country that has these happen....................

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Post by NigelUno 2018-03-29, 11:39

LooseGoose wrote:Tell me again how this is the only country that has these happen....................

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Do you have any data after 2015?

Seems like there would be some...
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-03-29, 11:51

Man that is a realllllly interesting reverse image search on the random excel sheet.

1) lots of conservative sources citing it right now. (This is where goose prolly got it.)
2) it seems to be from a study from 2015 from the Crime Prevention Research Center. That study isn’t doing a great job of easily providing the source data for the random excel sheet but then again I’m at work so I don’t have time to really get into it. But scoping through some of the links and such in the study it’s not exactly jumping out where that came from.
3) now the Crime Prevention Research Center sounds pretty official doesn’t it. Here’s the thing. It was founded by a guy named John Lott. I don’t know him very well but his bio on a few sites on a quick google say “gun rights advocate” and then there’s this link which certainly doesn’t sound good  The political hodge podge thread - Page 10 1f62c   But I won’t say I’ve dug into this either but I feel like maybe it’s something to read before just saying “yup that data is accurate.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/debunking-john-lott-5456e83cf326/amp/
Finally, amongst others on the groups Board of Directors are Ted Nugent and David Clarke. So, I mean take whatever you want from all that but basically I’m skeptical about where those numbers came from.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-03-29, 11:56

Oh it turns out that article I linked to addresses that very table at length. Lol who knew. Anyway I suggest y’all give it a read through
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-03-29, 12:02

LooseGoose wrote:Tell me again how this is the only country that has these happen....................

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Sweet random excel spreadsheet. The political hodge podge thread - Page 10 502811600
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Post by NigelUno 2018-03-29, 12:08

Does Goose just believe every random tweet that comes across his phone?

Does he realize that he (most likely) is just a pawn for the guys at the Russian troll farm?

Or is he the Mio branch of the farm?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-03-30, 14:52

That guy that the cops murdered in Sacramento was shot 6 times in the back and twice in the side. So when the murderers showed up, guns drawn, didn’t announce that they were cops, immediately started shooting, then claimed that the person was lifting his cell phone toward them and they thought it was a gun... well that last bit wasn’t true. So now they’re liars on top of murderers.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-03-30, 15:03

Pretty shitty.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-03-30, 15:08

Maybe the guy should have thought about being black and poor first
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-03-31, 22:10

Were you ever going to address the fact that you got fist fucked on your bullshit excel sheet source or no

Prolly no

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Post by Guest 2018-03-31, 23:59

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Were you ever going to address the fact that you got fist fucked on your bullshit excel sheet source or no

Prolly no

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Right after 756 questions of mine are "addressed". Use Pylon's spreadsheet to keep track.


I've been working tonight to keep it simple for you fellas by using lots of pictures. Is it helping??
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-04-01, 00:01

LooseGoose wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Were you ever going to address the fact that you got fist fucked on your bullshit excel sheet source or no

Prolly no

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Right after 756 questions of mine are "addressed". Use Pylon's spreadsheet to keep track.


I've been working tonight to keep it simple for you fellas by using lots of pictures. Is it helping??

In a word, no.
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Post by xsanguine 2018-04-01, 10:13

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Oh it turns out that article I linked to addresses that very table at length. Lol who knew. Anyway I suggest y’all give it a read through

I read it. I read through every source ThinkProgress (the left's Breitbart) provides. A blogger is even used to bolster one of their arguments.

What they're actually saying when it's all said and done, is they don't like how he defines "mass" shooting. It's interesting because TP's detractors typically get annoyed by the concept of defining "mass shooting".
Either words/phrases have meaning or they don't. This is the same problem with the term "terrorist", which if we use it the way many of our posters on here want us to use it.... Lott's numbers would fit their criteria exactly.
What I do agree with, is that if there is a standard for defining "mass shooting" as ThinkProgress suggests there is, then it should be used and Lott didn't use it properly. If your goal is to show randomly selected victims of a public shooting, then Lott's methodology makes sense and in that instance the frequency tables make sense. It's not a table I use simply because of the arbitrary distinctions.

If we remove arbitrary designations of gun violence, and look at it as a whole. It has plummeted in the same time gun ownership has sky rocketed. CNN and ThinkProgress don't focus on that... they need the arbitrary definitions to harp on in order to push the agenda.

And the very council ThinkProgress uses here is the exact council that Obama ordered in 2013 to study the issue and came to the findings that I posted in the other thread. I'm an old ThinkProgress reader from back in the day, I'm very familiar with their journalistic strategy. Later in the article they even source "a BuzzFeed investigation later revealed" The political hodge podge thread - Page 10 502811600
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Post by GRR Spartan 2018-04-01, 10:31

Populations per CIA Fact Book

Macedonia - 2.1M

Albania - 3M

Serbia - 7M

Switzerland - 8.2M

Norway - 5.3M

Slovakia - 5.4M

Finland - 5.5M

Belgium - 11.5M

Austria - 8.7M

Czechia - 10.7M

France - 67.1M

US - 326.6M

Canada - 35.6M

What Goose (or the source he reposted conveniently leaves out) is every country listed doesn't sell assualt style rifles like the AR-15 or Sig Sauer MCX to any goof with cash.  If you notice the US population is more than 3 times the population of France and at least 11 times larger than any of the countries in the top 5 countries on that list.


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Post by GRR Spartan 2018-04-01, 10:35

Got any more made up stories about your parent's deaths you'd like to share with us xsanguine?
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Post by xsanguine 2018-04-01, 10:36

Fuck you, GRR.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2018-04-01, 11:13

Then you're out of the fiction business?
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Post by DWags 2018-04-01, 11:48

GRR Spartan wrote:Populations per CIA Fact Book

Macedonia - 2.1M

Albania - 3M

Serbia - 7M

Switzerland - 8.2M

Norway - 5.3M

Slovakia - 5.4M

Finland - 5.5M

Belgium - 11.5M

Austria - 8.7M

Czechia - 10.7M

France - 67.1M

US - 326.6M

Canada - 35.6M

What Goose (or the source he reposted conveniently leaves out) is every country listed doesn't sell assualt style rifles like the AR-15 or Sig Sauer MCX to any goof with cash.  If you notice the US population is more than 3 times the population of France and at least 11 times larger than any of the countries in the top 5 countries on that list.

Facts. People searching for the “deep state” plug their ears and say “nananana “ when presented with them. If you don’t get how Russian bots convinced these idiots who to vote for , you’re naive as hell. They have no issue lying about anything on the internet. Won’t blink an eye. And they search for articles that help them believe the unbelievable. Scary really. These morons are armed.
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Post by DWags 2018-04-03, 08:46

God, this guy is a pussy.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-04-04, 18:53

Rocinante wrote:The political hodge podge thread - Page 10 Israel10
You know that’s not real right
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Post by Rocinante 2018-04-05, 00:42

Yes Travis. Because I made it.
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