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Post by aualum06 Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:25

McQuaid should never see the floor again. Winston only because tum is bad. These two better step up their games.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:26

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DWags wrote:So tell me a tale. This will end up being good for us. It will somehow stick with us and we’ll use this to move us through March.

Or will Duke or North Carolina just beat us again?

They would just beat us again.

Hey, at least Ward and Jackson didn’t foul out ChampionsClassic - The March continues. - Page 7 502811600 fucking Izzo.

Worst big game coach ever.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:27

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gHost Spartan wrote:Our TV suddenly stopped working so I haven't been able to watch the end of the game. Guess that's a good thing. FUCK DUKE

Had them. Two threes in a row were the dagger.

The dagger was the lack of defense at the end.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:28

DWags wrote:
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They would just beat us again.

Hey, at least Ward and Jackson didn’t foul out ChampionsClassic - The March continues. - Page 7 502811600 fucking Izzo.

Worst big game coach ever.

I mean, a lot of our biggest games have been against UNC/Duke. ChampionsClassic - The March continues. - Page 7 2599972566
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:29

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Worst big game coach ever.

I mean, a lot of our biggest games have been against UNC/Duke. ChampionsClassic - The March continues. - Page 7 2599972566

Yep.
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Post by The Pantry Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:29

DWags wrote:So tell me a tale. This will end up being good for us. It will somehow stick with us and we’ll use this to move us through March.

Or will Duke or North Carolina just beat us again?
Izzo just setting up motivation for when we meet Dook in the FF.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:30

Remember when MSU was defense and rebounding?

Sweet.
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Post by Stoops21 Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:33

Play zone against us and shoot some 3's. Ball game.

Really want one more title for izzo but it's just not happening. He flat out got out coached tonight.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:33

Good thing I have a kid to keep me distracted.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:34

For real though can we talk about only getting 5 fouls? That’s a little silly with some of the bullshit they call
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Post by Tim Wakefield Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:34

Stoops21 wrote:Play zone against us and shoot some 3's. Ball game.

Really want one more title for izzo but it's just not happening. He flat out got out coached tonight.

Someone save this post
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Post by NigelUno Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:35

Stoops21 wrote:Play zone against us and shoot some 3's. Ball game.

Really want one more title for izzo but it's just not happening. He flat out got out coached tonight.

Not every team has a Grayson Allen...who gets a career high in points.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:37

Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:40

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Good thing I have a kid to keep me distracted.
ummm Roy Moore? Is that you?
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Post by MattyFresh Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:41

Kansa$ over Tucky$
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Post by Tim Wakefield Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:41

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Good thing I have a kid to keep me distracted.
ummm Roy Moore? Is that you?

too soon Shocked
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Post by Stoops21 Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:41

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:For real though can we talk about only getting 5 fouls? That’s a little silly with some of the bullshit they call

That giant piece of human trash elbowed carter and stayed in the game lol. It's Duke
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:41

NigelUno wrote:
Stoops21 wrote:Play zone against us and shoot some 3's. Ball game.

Really want one more title for izzo but it's just not happening. He flat out got out coached tonight.

Not every team has a Grayson Allen...who gets a career high in points.
people don't have to like him, but that dude can hoop.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:42

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.

Probably to practice it against a zone while we can do that since this game ultimately doesn’t really matter.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:42

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too soon Shocked
couldn't help it. ;-)
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:47

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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Not every team has a Grayson Allen...who gets a career high in points.
people don't have to like him, but that dude can hoop.

No doubt. Like Laimber hate him but he’ll beat your ass.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:48

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.

I liken it to Dantonio insisting on running off tackle with a four point lead in the fourth quarter. Hard to get mother fuckers to change.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:49

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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.

Probably to practice it against a zone while we can do that since this game ultimately doesn’t really matter.

I’m sick of that. If it was Kansas I’d say yeah. But this mattered. Because fuck Duke.
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Post by NigelUno Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:51

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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Not every team has a Grayson Allen...who gets a career high in points.
people don't have to like him, but that dude can hoop.

We lost because Grayson Allen went off.

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Post by aualum06 Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:54

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.

High post and high low action was there all night as well as the back side lob. Have always been surprised they don't see more zone, have historically struggled against it
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 21:58

Stoops21 wrote:Did we game plan to cover the three point shot or not? What a pathetic ending to a game. Fucking embarrassing.

Fuck Duke fuck Allen and fuck the refs

The human losing horn has made an appearance.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:00

Pylon please stop rubbing in what Nigel did to me it still hurts
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:04

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: people don't have to like him, but that dude can hoop.

We lost because Grayson Allen went off.


It had nothing to do with the defense on him either.
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Post by Death Roe Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:07

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Stoops21 wrote:Play zone against us and shoot some 3's. Ball game.

Really want one more title for izzo but it's just not happening. He flat out got out coached tonight.

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Jesus Stoops, chill out.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:07

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We lost because Grayson Allen went off.


It had nothing to do with the defense on him either.

What defense?
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Post by aualum06 Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:07

18 minutes for Ward
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Post by Death Roe Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:08

Allen was challenged quite a bit. Only made 2 open 3s from what I saw.
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:10

aualum06 wrote:18 minutes for Ward

40 for Allen. I get it’s early season but this game is a mental block for MSU. SHORTEN YOUR BENCH AND PLAY YOUR BEST AGAINST DUKE IZZO. THEY OWN US.

McQuaid is afraid to take a shot, let him be afraid on the bench.
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Post by Death Roe Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:11

No one really got in too much foul trouble for MSU. I would've left Ward and JJJ out there unless they absolutely needed some wind. I don't understand how Ward doesn't play at least 30 minutes.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:16

DWags wrote:
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It had nothing to do with the defense on him either.

What defense?

Touché, wags. Being stubborn gets you no nattys in 17 years.
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Post by steveschneider Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:31

DWags wrote:
aualum06 wrote:18 minutes for Ward

40 for Allen. I get it’s early season but this game is a mental block for MSU. SHORTEN YOUR BENCH AND PLAY YOUR BEST AGAINST DUKE IZZO. THEY OWN US.

McQuaid is afraid to take a shot, let him be afraid on the bench.

Couldn’t agree more. Very frustrating game to watch. I don’t think we will ever see Tom Izzo beat UNC or Duke again.
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Post by steveschneider Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:36

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.

Duke is superior to MSU is what it comes down to. It’s really frustrating, this is the best MSU team I’ve seen in a long time and it is still not enough to beat Duke.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:41

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Seriously though can someone riddle me why we kept swinging the ball so much after they proved they couldn’t do it without turning it over? Yeah usually ball movement crushes the zone but we weren’t able to do it. Ball screens and quick penetration. Shit tum got a lay up when they weren’t able to get set up. Izzo was outcoached but we should not be surprised it was duke. That’s what happens.

Duke is superior to MSU is what it comes down to. It’s really frustrating, this is the best MSU team I’ve seen in a long time and it is still not enough to beat Duke.

It’s really soon to say anything like “best MSU team in a long time.”
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Post by steveschneider Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:48

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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Duke is superior to MSU is what it comes down to. It’s really frustrating, this is the best MSU team I’ve seen in a long time and it is still not enough to beat Duke.

It’s really soon to say anything like “best MSU team in a long time.”

How about most talented MSU team?
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Post by DWags Tue 14 Nov 2017 - 22:50

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