Al Franken!!!

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  Newt Gingrich, Representative (R-GA) and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994, resigned from the House after admitting in 1998 to having had an affair with a staffer while he was married to his second wife, and at the same time he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with his intern Monica Lewinsky. 
  

steveschneider wrote:Charlie Rose fired. Good riddance!

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:Moore was a DEM before he stopped this behavior and turned R -

This is what I’ll always remember you as.

You admitting he did it. Now that he’s running with a R by his name, he’s good to go.

You’re not trolling, don’t say you are. You’re morally bankrupt. I’ll read your stuff with that in mind and keep showing you this quote.

You say he did this, so now he must be lying because he’s denying it. But that doesn’t matter to you.

Got it.

DWags wrote:LooseGoose wrote:
Moore was a DEM before he stopped this behavior and turned R

DWags wrote:This is pretty fucking easy and it's the lowest of low hanging fruit that I'm parroting from a man who has zero morals only tribal instinct. Was it rock who said "Whataboutism" Pathetic.

He's not trolling, he's sick. Girls wear clothes too sexy. Girls are adults at 16, but children at 16.

It's not trolling, it's moral bankruptcy.

LooseGoose wrote:You have ALL played "Whatabout" with Trump and every R since he was nominated. Now you don't want that to apply the other way. Typical Dem shit.

In 1989, after these black and Latino teenagers from Harlem were accused of assaulting and raping a white woman in Central Park, Mr. Trump spent $85,000 placing full-page ads in the four daily papers in New York City, calling for the return of the death penalty.

“Muggers and murderers,” he wrote, “should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes.” Though he didn’t refer to the teenagers by name, it was clear to anyone in the city that he was referring to them.

Incredibly, 14 years after their sentences were vacated based on DNA evidence and the detailed and accurate confession of a serial rapist named Matias Reyes, Mr. Trump has doubled down.

“They admitted they were guilty,” he said in a statement to CNN this month. “The police doing the original investigation say they were guilty. The fact that that case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous.”

“We believe Lindsay Menz. We believe Leeann Tweeden,” tweeted Indivisible, the progressive advocacy group that's gained prominence challenging President Donald Trump this year. “Senator @alfranken should be held accountable and he should resign.”

Democratic senators, who quickly coalesced around calls for an ethics probe, stayed mostly silent on Monday. Aides to numerous Senate Democrats in leadership, as well as female Democratic senators, did not respond to requests for comment on CNN's story about Franken’s latest accuser.

One exception was Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), who said through a spokeswoman Monday that an Ethics Committee investigation is the “appropriate step and needs to happen immediately.”

“Time for Al Franken to go,” tweeted liberal commentator Sally Kohn. “Wrong is wrong. And the Democrats need to show they strongly AND CONSISTENTLY stand for women’s rights.”

Dan Muroff, who is running for the Democratic nomination for a House seat in Pennsylvania, said Monday that Franken’s “pattern of behavior toward women has rendered his voice for progressive values meaningless.” And CREDO Mobile, a cellphone company that maintains a liberal activism arm, on Monday similarly called for Franken's resignation.

"CREDO is committed to standing with women who speak out, holding perpetrators accountable and working to change the systemic and institutionalized misogyny that lets these behaviors continue without consequence," the company said in a statement. "We believe that Sen. Franken should immediately resign from the U.S. Senate and that Gov. Mark Dayton should appoint a progressive woman to replace him."

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:LooseGoose wrote:
Moore was a DEM before he stopped this behavior and turned R

All truth.   Refute it if you believe it to be wrong.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:This is pretty fucking easy and it's the lowest of low hanging fruit that I'm parroting from a man who has zero morals only tribal instinct. Was it rock who said "Whataboutism" Pathetic.

He's not trolling, he's sick. Girls wear clothes too sexy. Girls are adults at 16, but children at 16.

It's not trolling, it's moral bankruptcy.

So only you get to play whatabout?

LOL, ok.

And distort and lie about what I said about dressing. IT's beneath you but I understand the need to lie when your arguments are bullshit.

LooseGoose wrote:All truth. Refute it if you believe it to be wrong.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:LooseGoose wrote:
Moore was a DEM before he stopped this behavior and turned R

All truth.   Refute it if you believe it to be wrong.

ABCNews’ Alleged “Proud Independent” Chief Political Analyst [Matthew Dowd]: There’s a Big Difference Between Rapists and Molesters Working for “The Common Good” (i.e., Progressives) and Those Not Working for the “Common Good” (i.e., Conservatives).

MSNBC’s Joy Reid tweets, “The Kennedys occupy a special place in our national consciousness. JFK had a roguish gallantry. Jackie O had the glamour and pathos of a Hollywood star. RFK had the seeds of goodness and greatness. Teddy chased redemption. Americans love those kinds of narratives.”

Becket Adams of the Washington Examiner responds to Reid:

“Teddy chased redemption.” You can straight up drown a woman, sexually assault a waitress, etc., etc. and *still* be eulogized with this fluffy shit. The #MeToo movement sputters.

As another Twitter user adds, “Teddy chased that redemption right off the road and into the water leaving a woman to drown. But hey, each to their own, right [Joy Ann Reid]?”

UPDATE: “The Democrats are going right back into the same mode they did with Clinton. Don’t worry everyone. In 2036, brave editors will have ask people to write, ‘Franken should have resigned’ pieces,” Jay Caruso of the Dallas Morning News tweets.

New York Times columnist who called on Al Franken to resign has ‘second thoughts.’

CNN’s Dylan Byers Laments ‘Drain of Talent’ With Harassers Leaving Hollywood, Media.

How much worse can movies get? (I know, I know, that’s a perennial question for Hollywood.)

● The Times Is “Torn” About Whether Glenn Thrush Should Lose His Job Over Sexual-Misconduct Allegations.

LooseGoose wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Charlie Rose fired. Good riddance!

But they're circling the wagons on Franken, just like they did for Teddy Kennedy, Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton and others.

IT'll be fun to watch Dems talk about how all women should be believed.....even Lizzie Warren dodged the Franken question.

Related: Ruth Marcus: Are we now at risk of overreacting to sexual harassment? It’s never an overreaction until it starts to hurt Democrats. As Richard Fernandez said, they put these torpedoes in the water to take out Trump, but now they’ve circled back around.

Franken = Bob Packwood

Rocinante wrote:

Franken = Bob Packwood

What the fuck?  Not even close.  Jesus Christ.  Is nuance allowed at all or are we just reactionary fuckwads these days?

Rocinante wrote:This is a purely political strategy post. You all know how I feel about this shit. Franken will not resign unless he knows more will come out. You've got one credible accusation and a three questionable claims of ass grabbing. He also has a small army of women he's worked with saying he's not a perv. If he's smart (and there aren't more skeletons) he will continue to call for an investigation and cooperate with it. In the end, he may actually benefit from all this because of the stark difference between what comes out here and the accusations against, oh, say the president.

Rocinante wrote:This is a purely political strategy post.  You all know how I feel about this shit. Franken will not resign unless he knows more will come out.  You've got one credible accusation and a three questionable claims of ass grabbing.  He also has a small army of women he's worked with saying he's not a perv.  If he's smart (and there aren't more skeletons) he will continue to call for an investigation and cooperate with it.  In the end, he may actually benefit from all this because of the stark difference between what comes out here and the accusations against, oh, say the president.

A gloss on Jazz’s post earlier about Franken’s latest non-apology. Becket Adams is right: The only misbehavior to which Franken has admitted is his pretend grope of a sleeping Leeann Tweeden, and he only admitted that because there was photographic evidence of it. Even then, all he would cop to is that it was a joke he regretted in hindsight. At no point has he confessed to having done anything prurient despite the fact that now no fewer than four women have accused him of groping or an unwanted kiss. He’s not attacking his accusers as liars, as Roy Moore’s campaign is, but rather as sort of … stupid. He’s hugged a lot of people, he says. If sometimes incidental contact was made in those hugs that women interpreted as a grope, well, he feels awful about the misunderstanding. But his intentions were pure. If you thought Al Franken was grabbing your ass during a photo op (“It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek”), maybe you just don’t know what it’s like to have your ass grabbed.

Conyers’s lawyer said on Wednesday that he won’t resign. Franken seems to have no intention of resigning. Bill Clinton not only didn’t resign, the sudden Democratic reckoning with whether he should have resigned conveniently came a year after his wife lost the presidential election and was no longer of use to her party. If you’re a Republican in Alabama who’s disgusted with Moore but reluctant to vote for a Democrat, especially one who supports late-term abortion, you may look at all of that and decide to stick with your party’s nominee. Some may back Moore out of spite, as a middle finger to Democrats who like to lecture about the “war on women” but won’t do anything to purge abusers in their midst. Some may back Moore out of pity, that he’s being held to a standard as a Republican, a Christian, a southerner, and/or a candidate that sitting members of Congress who mouth “progressive” platitudes aren’t held to. And not just by Democrats:

LooseGoose wrote:

Rocinante wrote:This is a purely political strategy post.  You all know how I feel about this shit. Franken will not resign unless he knows more will come out.  You've got one credible accusation and a three questionable claims of ass grabbing.  He also has a small army of women he's worked with saying he's not a perv.  If he's smart (and there aren't more skeletons) he will continue to call for an investigation and cooperate with it.  In the end, he may actually benefit from all this because of the stark difference between what comes out here and the accusations against, oh, say the president.

Yes because it's always beneficial to have credible accusations made that you've sexually assaulted a woman.

This is the perfect example.   Franken grabs ass = beneficial to him.   Trump brags he could grab ass = Worst monster living.
Moore tried to date 16 year olds 30 years ago when he was a Dem, the didn't report it then but now that he's a Rep he should be hung, then drawn and quartered.

Now someone read this post of Roc's and scold me again for "tribalism".