Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim.

by Guest 2018-01-30, 12:03

2 former governors

well connected

Both MSU grads

I think this is a good idea.

by **DWags** 2018-01-30, 12:06

Different parties, one cause. Satisfies a lot of Spartans.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-01-30, 12:08

Read about Engler.. haven't heard/read anything about an Engler/Blanchard team.

by **Rocinante** 2018-01-30, 12:23

When I worked at the Lansing airport I used to interact occasionally with Governor Engler. That guy is a piece of work.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2018-01-30, 12:32

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Read about Engler.. haven't heard/read anything about an Engler/Blanchard team.

Not official, but apparently rumblings are that Blanchard will be a special advisor to Engler.

by **Death Roe** 2018-01-30, 12:56

Rocinante wrote:When I worked at the Lansing airport I used to interact occasionally with Governor Engler. That guy is a piece of work.

Did he pee on the floor right after you mopped it?

by **Rocinante** 2018-01-30, 13:03

Death Roe wrote:
Rocinante wrote:When I worked at the Lansing airport I used to interact occasionally with Governor Engler. That guy is a piece of work.

Did he pee on the floor right after you mopped it?

I did do quite a bit of mopping back then, but no. Nothing like that. He was just an asshole. To pretty much everyone.

by Guest 2018-01-30, 13:05

Tribes.

by **Rocinante** 2018-01-30, 13:05

I never met Blanchard, Goose. Maybe he was an asshole too. I don't know.

by Guest 2018-01-30, 13:13

Rocinante wrote:I never met Blanchard, Goose. Maybe he was an asshole too. I don't know.

The Engler triplets were cute babies.

by **Rocinante** 2018-01-30, 13:22

They still are cute. Or were a few years ago when I saw an article about them.

by Guest 2018-01-30, 13:24

I get a warm feeling all over when we're getting along.

by **I.B. Fine** 2018-01-30, 13:30

LooseGoose wrote:I get a warm feeling all over when we're getting along.

Sure it's not your Depends leaking?
Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim. 502811600

by Guest 2018-01-30, 13:32

I.B. Fine wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:I get a warm feeling all over when we're getting along.
Sure it's not your Depends leaking?

Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim. 1550444538

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 13:49

Weak leadership. Couldn’t get even one of his triplets to attend MSU, and one is a blue.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2018-01-30, 13:57

Rocinante wrote:When I worked at the Lansing airport I used to interact occasionally with Governor Engler. That guy is a piece of work.

Sounds like Roc is on it (if you read between the lines of the Crain's article):

Engler, a Republican, served as Michigan's governor from 1991 to 2003 and was known for imposing a commanding management style in his governance of the state.

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Actually a great move - somebody is actually thinking - two former guvs one dem / one gop riding in to save the day.

by **Rocinante** 2018-01-30, 13:59

Is that what a "blue" is? I never got that joke. I mean I thought that was probably what it was, but I didn't want to ask.

by **I.B. Fine** 2018-01-30, 14:05

Rocinante wrote:Is that what a "blue" is? I never got that joke. I mean I thought that was probably what it was, but I didn't want to ask.

Exactly the sort of ~~response~~ deflection I'd expect from a blue.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 14:05

Rocinante wrote:Is that what a "blue" is? I never got that joke. I mean I thought that was probably what it was, but I didn't want to ask.

Yes. See also: Turtleneck.

by **Cameron** 2018-01-30, 14:48

tGreenWay wrote:
Rocinante wrote:Is that what a "blue" is? I never got that joke. I mean I thought that was probably what it was, but I didn't want to ask.

Yes. See also: Turtleneck.

Wakefield pining for Moritz Wagner was blue as fuck. So was OTPT agreeing with him.

Blues everywhere, I tell ya.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-01-30, 15:18

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Read about Engler.. haven't heard/read anything about an Engler/Blanchard team.

And I read about Blanchard, but not Engler. We're like the Capulets and the Montagues.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 15:33

Cameron wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Yes. See also: Turtleneck.

Wakefield pining for Moritz Wagner was blue as fuck. So was OTPT agreeing with him.

Blues everywhere, I tell ya.

Foxes in the henhouse.

by **Nordic** 2018-01-30, 15:34

Dr. Strangelove wrote:
Rocinante wrote:When I worked at the Lansing airport I used to interact occasionally with Governor Engler. That guy is a piece of work.

Sounds like Roc is on it (if you read between the lines of the Crain's article):

Engler, a Republican, served as Michigan's governor from 1991 to 2003 and was known for imposing a commanding management style in his governance of the state.

---
Actually a great move - somebody is actually thinking - two former guvs one dem / one gop riding in to save the day.

I'm one of the least political person on the is board. I couldn't tell ya if Engler or Blanchard are democrats or republicans. During Engler's reign I was either trying to sneak into Rick's or trying to drowned my miseries from graduating.

Political viewpoints aside Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim. 3742235224

Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim. 3742235224

Can these dudes speak intelligently? Good under crises? Because that has been severely lacking from MSU so far (except from Dantonio).

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2018-01-30, 16:24

Nordic wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Sounds like Roc is on it (if you read between the lines of the Crain's article):

Engler, a Republican, served as Michigan's governor from 1991 to 2003 and was known for imposing a commanding management style in his governance of the state.

---
Actually a great move - somebody is actually thinking - two former guvs one dem / one gop riding in to save the day.

I'm one of the least political person on the is board. I couldn't tell ya if Engler or Blanchard are democrats or republicans. During Engler's reign I was either trying to sneak into Rick's or trying to drowned my miseries from graduating.

Political viewpoints aside

Can these dudes speak intelligently? Good under crises? Because that has been severely lacking from MSU so far (except from Dantonio).

They are both multi-term governors and lifetime politicians. They speak well and project a strong image. They have been called in to spin this into "we know msu fucked up but we're gonna fix it. Now kindly step aside and stop pissing on our leg and calling it rain. In fact why don't you just stfu and leave us alone. We'll get back you with a full report after next year's bowl season"

by **Floyd Robertson** 2018-01-30, 17:08

I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

"Engler is a deep political insider at MSU," "At a time the university desperately needs, and survivors pleaded for, outside accountability and leadership, the board chooses one of the most entrenched insiders-Rachel Denhollander

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?

by Guest 2018-01-30, 17:36

Floyd Robertson wrote:I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

"Engler is a deep political insider at MSU," "At a time the university desperately needs, and survivors pleaded for, outside accountability and leadership, the board chooses one of the most entrenched insiders-Rachel Denhollander

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?

She's getting that from someone being tribal.

MSU needs someone they can trust to be honest and not screw them. So yes if there are more lumps to take we must take them but not to create lumps where none are existent.

I see Engler and Blanchard as MSU loyalists but also protective enough of their own reputations that they won't risk them to cover anything up.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-01-30, 18:00

Engler tried to dismantle public education and his pal Betsy DeVos, when not hiding from grizzly bears, is running the Dept. Of Ed.

What could possibly go wrong?

by **The Pantry** 2018-01-30, 18:14

Why not bring Granholm in? In 5 years we would be blown away, just like last time.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 18:15

LooseGoose wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?

She's getting that from someone being tribal.

MSU needs someone they can trust to be honest and not screw them. So yes if there are more lumps to take we must take them but not to create lumps where none are existent.

I see Engler and Blanchard as MSU loyalists but also protective enough of their own reputations that they won't risk them to cover anything up.

Don’t you wish ~~public figures~~ Swillers had to back up their phrases with evidence?

by **MiamiSpartan** 2018-01-30, 18:30

Floyd Robertson wrote:I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

"Engler is a deep political insider at MSU," "At a time the university desperately needs, and survivors pleaded for, outside accountability and leadership, the board chooses one of the most entrenched insiders-Rachel Denhollander

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?

Other than being a politician and being a graduate from MSU, can anyone tell me how he is a "deep political insider at MSU"?

Preferably a response that's not coming from a Dem/Rep political angle (that means you, Goose...and maybe Bob....no offense, guys, just looking for more objectivity).

I'm not saying she's wrong, it's a genuine question. I don't have a clue what Engler has been up to since he left the guvnership, but I don't recall reading his name mentioned much in connection with MSU, despite my heavy message boarding during the last 18 years. So I am curious what his role has been with regards to MSU lately.

by Guest 2018-01-30, 18:31

tGreenWay wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

She's getting that from someone being tribal.

MSU needs someone they can trust to be honest and not screw them. So yes if there are more lumps to take we must take them but not to create lumps where none are existent.

I see Engler and Blanchard as MSU loyalists but also protective enough of their own reputations that they won't risk them to cover anything up.

Don’t you wish ~~public figures~~ Swillers had to back up their phrases with evidence?

Sorry, I'm not stalking her to see who she's talking to.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2018-01-30, 18:34

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?
Other than being a politician and being a graduate from MSU, can anyone tell me how he is a "deep political insider at MSU"?

Preferably a response that's not coming from a Dem/Rep political angle (that means you, Goose...and maybe Bob....no offense, guys, just looking for more objectivity).

I'm not saying she's wrong, it's a genuine question. I don't have a clue what Engler has been up to since he left the guvnership, but I don't recall reading his name mentioned much in connection with MSU, despite my heavy message boarding during the last 18 years. So I am curious what his role has been with regards to MSU lately.

That's what I was getting at, just not so eloquently.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-01-30, 19:14

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?
Other than being a politician and being a graduate from MSU, can anyone tell me how he is a "deep political insider at MSU"?

Preferably a response that's not coming from a Dem/Rep political angle (that means you, Goose...and maybe Bob....no offense, guys, just looking for more objectivity).

I'm not saying she's wrong, it's a genuine question. I don't have a clue what Engler has been up to since he left the guvnership, but I don't recall reading his name mentioned much in connection with MSU, despite my heavy message boarding during the last 18 years. So I am curious what his role has been with regards to MSU lately.

I know you don't wanna hear from me.. but, my trepidation isn't the "political insider" angle as much as it is my concern about his efforts to dismantle public education in Michigan.

With being "interim" maybe he knows crippling education isn't his responsibility. Maybe he's just being brought in to make the trains run on time for a short while. I hope so.

by SawGreen 2018-01-30, 19:17

I think, don't know, that Engler went private with some IT firm for awhile. I do not disrespect the guy because I've been in the (small) room with him, and he projects an air and has a good handle on things... and I can say the same for Blanchard.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 19:24

LooseGoose wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Don’t you wish ~~public figures~~ Swillers had to back up their phrases with evidence?

Sorry, I'm not stalking her to see who she's talking to.

So you admit your declarative statement was something you pulled out of your ass? You are what you accuse others of being.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 19:30

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I'm not sure if this is the entire/exact quote or paraphrased but the gist is the same as what I just saw on TV attributed to her about Engler being entrenched.

Don't you wish public figures had to back up their phrases with evidence?
Other than being a politician and being a graduate from MSU, can anyone tell me how he is a "deep political insider at MSU"?

Preferably a response that's not coming from a Dem/Rep political angle (that means you, Goose...and maybe Bob....no offense, guys, just looking for more objectivity).

I'm not saying she's wrong, it's a genuine question. I don't have a clue what Engler has been up to since he left the guvnership, but I don't recall reading his name mentioned much in connection with MSU, despite my heavy message boarding during the last 18 years. So I am curious what his role has been with regards to MSU lately.

My guess is she would be opposed to anyone affiliated with MSU.
Or maybe she really believes John Engler is a part of the Deep (Michigan) State.

by Guest 2018-01-30, 19:31

tGreenWay wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Sorry, I'm not stalking her to see who she's talking to.

So you admit your declarative statement was something you pulled out of your ass? You are what you accuse others of being.

My statement was based on her response. She didn't pull that out of her ass, someone fed it to her. Good lord man she has no knowledge of Engler.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-01-30, 19:37

LooseGoose wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

So you admit your declarative statement was something you pulled out of your ass? You are what you accuse others of being.

My statement was based on her response. She didn't pull that out of her ass, someone fed it to her. Good lord man she has no knowledge of Engler.

Jeez, Goose, quit while you’re behind. I still love you like an internet brother. An infuriatingly stubborn internet brother. Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim. 685334576

Sounds like it's some sort of team - Engler & Blanchard for the interim. 685334576

by Guest 2018-01-30, 19:38

MiamiSpartan wrote:Preferably a response that's not coming from a Dem/Rep political angle (that means you, Goose...and maybe Bob....no offense, guys, just looking for more objectivity).

Add about 10 more names to Bob or show me where they're anywhere near "objective".

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2018-01-30, 19:39

How the hell would Rachael Denhollander know who is and isn't a deep political insider at msu?

I know because of what Nasser did no one will ever ask her that question but it still grinds.

ESPN is running Engler and her comment on their fucking scroll too.

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