Let the Foster Loyer Era begin

by Guest 2018-03-19, 08:07

He has Grit. We need gritty.

Play Winston at SG.

There.

That's my morning after analysis.

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by **Floyd Robertson** 2018-03-19, 08:13

If he's on the team this year, we win the whole damn thing.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 08:14

LooseGoose wrote:He has Grit. We need gritty.

Play Winston at SG.

There.

That's my morning after analysis.

Goose - is that you in the gif?

'cause that's pretty much what I imagine you looking like. Let the Foster Loyer Era begin 502811600

by Senior Dickfist 2018-03-19, 08:44

Bob, with all the time you spend Up North, I figured you and Goose had already met in person...

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 08:50

Senior Dickfist wrote:Bob, with all the time you spend Up North, I figured you and Goose had already met in person...

unfortunately, no.

I did PM him back in the fall to see if he was coming to any football games - I would've swung by to meet the man, the myth, the legend in person. Didn't work out, though.

by Guest 2018-03-19, 08:53

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:He has Grit. We need gritty.

Play Winston at SG.

There.

That's my morning after analysis.

Goose - is that you in the gif?

'cause that's pretty much what I imagine you looking like.

Nah, I don't look much like Stan Lee.

The one my kids tease me about when they see him is Gene Evans. Look up his appearances on MASH or Murder She Wrote.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 08:58

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: Goose - is that you in the gif?

'cause that's pretty much what I imagine you looking like.

Nah, I don't look much like Stan Lee.

The one my kids tease me about when they see him is Gene Evans. Look up his appearances on MASH or Murder She Wrote.

clearly I don't know who Stan Lee is.

cool - I'll check out this "Gene Evans" character.

we should start an off-season thread (though it's always "off season" at tSwill, which is why I dig it) - about our celebrity look-a-likes.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 09:00

Gene Evans.. or Quint?

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by Guest 2018-03-19, 09:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Gene Evans.. or Quint?

The beard coloration is nearly perfect too. I see he was 60 when he filmed that episode so even the age in that picture is pretty correct.

by Clarett's Folly 2018-03-19, 09:03

Now that the Bridges/Jackson era has come to a close I'm going to personally pump the brakes on hyping any one player until I've seen him play ten to twelve games in a Spartan uniform.

by Guest 2018-03-19, 09:05

Clarett's Folly wrote:Now that the Bridges/Jackson era has come to a close I'm going to personally pump the brakes on hyping any one player until I've seen him play ten to twelve games in a Spartan uniform.

Bandwagon tickets will be more expensive around Christmas.

by Clarett's Folly 2018-03-19, 09:11

LooseGoose wrote:
Clarett's Folly wrote:Now that the Bridges/Jackson era has come to a close I'm going to personally pump the brakes on hyping any one player until I've seen him play ten to twelve games in a Spartan uniform.

Bandwagon tickets will be more expensive around Christmas.

I'll start saving now.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-03-19, 09:13

I'm gonna take a break from basketball for a while. Get back to me around November.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 09:25

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Gene Evans.. or Quint?

The beard coloration is nearly perfect too. I see he was 60 when he filmed that episode so even the age in that picture is pretty correct.

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by **steveschneider** 2018-03-19, 09:31

The player to be the most excited about is Xavier Tillman.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 09:36

steveschneider wrote:The player to be the most excited about is Xavier Tillman.

Xavier Tillman = Xcited Till, man, He Let's Us Down.

(sorry - trying to hard to find something to chuckle about).

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-03-19, 09:38

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Gene Evans.. or Quint?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 09:54

hadn't seen that before.. Let the Foster Loyer Era begin 502811600

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 10:04

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
steveschneider wrote:The player to be the most excited about is Xavier Tillman.
Xavier Tillman = Xcited Till, man, He Let's Us Down.

(sorry - trying to hard to find something to chuckle about).

Bob, I thought you didn't care about MSU sports?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 10:07

Da Mayor wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: Xavier Tillman = Xcited Till, man, He Let's Us Down.

(sorry - trying to hard to find something to chuckle about).

Bob, I thought you didn't care about MSU sports?

I changed my mind.

by **NigelUno** 2018-03-19, 10:27

steveschneider wrote:The player to be the most excited about is Xavier Tillman.

Bingham.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 10:37

I've said for the last several years that Izzo just needs to go up to Flint and Saginaw and sign the five toughest mofos he can find. Don't fuck around with Detroit (soft) or Ohio or Indy. Find tough ass bitches who want a street fight.

I know the declining populations of those cities have hurt their youth programs and that players don't grow on trees like they used to 20 years ago, but I'd rather roll with those types of players than good guys.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 10:40

Da Mayor wrote:I've said for the last several years that Izzo just needs to go up to Flint and Saginaw and sign the five toughest mofos he can find. Don't fuck around with Detroit (soft) or Ohio or Indy. Find tough ass bitches who want a street fight.

I know the declining populations of those cities have hurt their youth programs and that players don't grow on trees like they used to 20 years ago, but I'd rather roll with those types of players than good guys.

I often thought that Izzo's success in the late 90's early 2000's - mostly with some of the hard-nosed Flint/Saginaw types - opened up the door to some of the softer, travel team, AAU type of recruits.. which, yes, they may have the sort of pedigree some programs look for or need, but I'm not sure those qualities match Izzo's personality and style.

Again, totally anecdotal observations - I can't (and won't) provide facts, data, formulas or equations to back it up. Just a feeling.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 10:46

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:I've said for the last several years that Izzo just needs to go up to Flint and Saginaw and sign the five toughest mofos he can find. Don't fuck around with Detroit (soft) or Ohio or Indy. Find tough ass bitches who want a street fight.

I know the declining populations of those cities have hurt their youth programs and that players don't grow on trees like they used to 20 years ago, but I'd rather roll with those types of players than good guys.
I often thought that Izzo's success in the late 90's early 2000's - mostly with some of the hard-nosed Flint/Saginaw types - opened up the door to some of the softer, travel team, AAU type of recruits.. which, yes, they may have the sort of pedigree some programs look for or need, but I'm not sure those qualities match Izzo's personality and style.

Again, totally anecdotal observations - I can't (and won't) provide facts, data, formulas or equations to back it up. Just a feeling.

Totally agree. I liked it better when we had the type of players who were getting busted for stealing beer from 7-11's. We need some dudes with some street in them. Choir boys are nice and make softies feel good about the character of the team they root for, but that's antithetical to what Izzo built this program on. Time to get back to our roots.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 10:49

P.S. Watching the Flint Town documentary series on Netflix makes me think we need to recruit some of those dudes who have been busted for loitering in front of that liquor store Let the Foster Loyer Era begin 502811600

by Space Lord 2018-03-19, 12:43

Da Mayor wrote:P.S. Watching the Flint Town documentary series on Netflix makes me think we need to recruit some of those dudes who have been busted for loitering in front of that liquor store

Buying someone underage a six pack has to be cheaper than going through an agent.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2018-03-19, 13:02

That's Mr. Basketball Foster Loyer. Put some respeck on his name.

by Clarett's Folly 2018-03-19, 13:03

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:I've said for the last several years that Izzo just needs to go up to Flint and Saginaw and sign the five toughest mofos he can find. Don't fuck around with Detroit (soft) or Ohio or Indy. Find tough ass bitches who want a street fight.

I know the declining populations of those cities have hurt their youth programs and that players don't grow on trees like they used to 20 years ago, but I'd rather roll with those types of players than good guys.
I often thought that Izzo's success in the late 90's early 2000's - mostly with some of the hard-nosed Flint/Saginaw types - opened up the door to some of the softer, travel team, AAU type of recruits.. which, yes, they may have the sort of pedigree some programs look for or need, but I'm not sure those qualities match Izzo's personality and style.

Again, totally anecdotal observations - I can't (and won't) provide facts, data, formulas or equations to back it up. Just a feeling.

+ A zilly

by **DWags** 2018-03-19, 13:15

Yep, he beat John's out for Mr. Basketball

by **steveschneider** 2018-03-19, 13:25

Da Mayor wrote:I've said for the last several years that Izzo just needs to go up to Flint and Saginaw and sign the five toughest mofos he can find. Don't fuck around with Detroit (soft) or Ohio or Indy. Find tough ass bitches who want a street fight.

I know the declining populations of those cities have hurt their youth programs and that players don't grow on trees like they used to 20 years ago, but I'd rather roll with those types of players than good guys.

I loved those days of basketball and loved it more than the freedom of movement style of play. Sadly I think we should move away from the ‘tough bang em up style of play’. The goal is to not foul and Izzo’s been putting teams on the free throw line too much and his players are sitting on the bench too much with foul trouble. These days it’s all about speed to stay in front of the guy with the ball, length to clog lanes and Getting vertical to block shots.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 13:28

DWags wrote:Yep, he beat John's out for Mr. Basketball

by a pretty substantial margin, too.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2018-03-19, 13:29

DWags wrote:Yep, he beat John's out for Mr. Basketball

although I wonder (and I don't feel like doing the research) - but has any school ever won Mr. and Miss Basketball in the same season?

'cause Jaida Hampton from EL was awarded Miss Basketball about 10 days ago. That would've been pretty cool for EL.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 13:47

steveschneider wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:I've said for the last several years that Izzo just needs to go up to Flint and Saginaw and sign the five toughest mofos he can find. Don't fuck around with Detroit (soft) or Ohio or Indy. Find tough ass bitches who want a street fight.

I know the declining populations of those cities have hurt their youth programs and that players don't grow on trees like they used to 20 years ago, but I'd rather roll with those types of players than good guys.

I loved those days of basketball and loved it more than the freedom of movement style of play. Sadly I think we should move away from the ‘tough bang em up style of play’. The goal is to not foul and Izzo’s been putting teams on the free throw line too much and his players are sitting on the bench too much with foul trouble. These days it’s all about speed to stay in front of the guy with the ball, length to clog lanes and Getting vertical to block shots.

I don't totally disagree, but having tough dudes doesn't necessarily mean fouling a lot. It means playing like it's life or death, being relentless, and when fouling, making sure they know it. Tone would have knocked some of these fools out if they tried coming down the lane like they do. That's what I'm talking about. If you're going to foul, bloody them up and make them think twice about doing it again.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 13:49

Da Mayor wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I loved those days of basketball and loved it more than the freedom of movement style of play. Sadly I think we should move away from the ‘tough bang em up style of play’. The goal is to not foul and Izzo’s been putting teams on the free throw line too much and his players are sitting on the bench too much with foul trouble. These days it’s all about speed to stay in front of the guy with the ball, length to clog lanes and Getting vertical to block shots.

I don't totally disagree, but having tough dudes doesn't necessarily mean fouling a lot. It means playing like it's life or death, being relentless, and when fouling, making sure they know it. Tone would have knocked some of these fools out if they tried coming down the lane like they do. That's what I'm talking about. If you're going to foul, bloody them up and make them think twice about doing it again.

Oh, and fuck Roy Williams for being on the rules committee years ago and giving us this shitty brand of basketball.

by **steveschneider** 2018-03-19, 13:57

Da Mayor wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:

I don't totally disagree, but having tough dudes doesn't necessarily mean fouling a lot. It means playing like it's life or death, being relentless, and when fouling, making sure they know it. Tone would have knocked some of these fools out if they tried coming down the lane like they do. That's what I'm talking about. If you're going to foul, bloody them up and make them think twice about doing it again.

Oh, and fuck Roy Williams for being on the rules committee years ago and giving us this shitty brand of basketball.

Yeah, hard to argue with that and what you said above. Yesterday Syracuse went to the line 31 times and we went 16. Our goal should be to bring one of those numbers down and the other one up. Get a tough street baller out of Saginaw that wants the ball in clutch minutes and is going to drive the lane to the basket. Mateen used to do it.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 14:16

steveschneider wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:

Oh, and fuck Roy Williams for being on the rules committee years ago and giving us this shitty brand of basketball.

Yeah, hard to argue with that and what you said above. Yesterday Syracuse went to the line 31 times and we went 16. Our goal should be to bring one of those numbers down and the other one up. Get a tough street baller out of Saginaw that wants the ball in clutch minutes and is going to drive the lane to the basket. Mateen used to do it.

Exactly. We need more gangsta and less choir on our team.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 14:18

Da Mayor wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Yeah, hard to argue with that and what you said above. Yesterday Syracuse went to the line 31 times and we went 16. Our goal should be to bring one of those numbers down and the other one up. Get a tough street baller out of Saginaw that wants the ball in clutch minutes and is going to drive the lane to the basket. Mateen used to do it.

Exactly. We need more gangsta and less choir on our team.

I also would like to see us get into a fight at some point, even if it leads to a suspension for a game or two.

by **steveschneider** 2018-03-19, 14:21

Da Mayor wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:

Exactly. We need more gangsta and less choir on our team.

I also would like to see us get into a fight at some point, even if it leads to a suspension for a game or two.

Yeah, when I was at msg I was hoping Ward would pop that wolverine in the face. Probably would have inspired me to punch the wolverine in the seat behind me.

by Da Mayor 2018-03-19, 14:26

steveschneider wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:

I also would like to see us get into a fight at some point, even if it leads to a suspension for a game or two.

Yeah, when I was at msg I was hoping Ward would pop that wolverine in the face. Probably would have inspired me to punch the wolverine in the seat behind me.

The amount of mugging for the camera that fool did, especially at Breslin, would have gotten his ass beat during the Flintstone or Draymond era. We've gotten soft since then.

by Guest 2018-03-19, 17:43

Future Spartan Foster Loyer of Clarkston is named 2018 Mr. Basketball

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