Let the Foster Loyer Era begin

Much older starters next year. Much younger bench.

Winston PG Loyer
Langford SG Ahrens
McQuaid SF Brown Henry
Tillman PF Bingham
Ward C Goins Kithier

Cameron wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:If he's on the team this year, we win the whole damn thing.

Not with Ben Carter getting more minutes than Jaren Jackson, we don't.

Don’t forget about his other big let down where he kept Deyonta Davis on the bench.

omg steve, stop with the hot takes. They are so bad. Seriously, stop.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:omg steve, stop with the hot takes. They are so bad. Seriously, stop.

Davis averages like 16 minutes a game in the nba but Izzo had him on the bench at crucial points in that game. Not the best use of top talent if you ask me. One player was going to med school the other the nba. The choice was clear.

mental note to ignore all of steve's future hoops takes.

steveschneider wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:omg steve, stop with the hot takes. They are so bad. Seriously, stop.

Davis averages like 16 minutes a game in the nba but Izzo had him on the bench at crucial points in that game. Not the best use of top talent if you ask me. One player was going to med school the other the nba. The choice was clear.

Davis played in 36/82 games his first season. 6 minutes/game.
He's played in 49/69 games this year...under 14 minutes/game...lately it's been in the 16 minute range...sidenote...they are tanking games for draft position.

Steve is just frustrated that we won’t win another natty under izzo. It’s understandable, especially when a lottery pick is on the bench.

Does this kid have a poultry farm and sponsor a bowl game?

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Steve is just frustrated that we won’t win another natty under izzo. It’s understandable, especially when a lottery pick is on the bench.

Steve likes to listen to Soul Asylum.

NigelUno wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

Davis averages like 16 minutes a game in the nba but Izzo had him on the bench at crucial points in that game. Not the best use of top talent if you ask me. One player was going to med school the other the nba. The choice was clear.

Davis played in 36/82 games his first season. 6 minutes/game.
He's played in 49/69 games this year...under 14 minutes/game...lately it's been in the 16 minute range...sidenote...they are tanking games for draft position.

And Wollerman NBA zero minutes. It’s just frustrating that we get to march and Izzo has these loaded rosters and some of his first round nba talent still looks like a deer in the headlights at the end of the season. The fact that wollerman or carter are playing over these guys in crucial games in March is a disturbing trend to me.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Steve is just frustrated that we won’t win another natty under izzo. It’s understandable, especially when a lottery pick is on the bench.

MTSU and Syracuse were huge bummers. We had four nba players on that team vs MTSU. This year we had two lottery picks. I’m in the anger stage of grief.

MSU football fan @Sheehan_Sports Mar 18


At least we...

A) Didn’t blow a 22-point second half lead like Cincy
B) Lose to a 16 seed like Virginia
C) Lose by 4,000 like Auburn
D) Get housed by Buffalo like Zona

(Trying to be positive here)

LooseGoose wrote:MSU football fan @Sheehan_Sports Mar 18


At least we...

A) Didn’t blow a 22-point second half lead like Cincy
B) Lose to a 16 seed like Virginia
C) Lose by 4,000 like Auburn
D) Get housed by Buffalo like Zona

(Trying to be positive here)

All valid points. It was also a great group of kids. Definitely a very likeable team.

7 o’clock tonight. You can stream it.
https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/tournament/michigan-winter-championships/boys-basketball-mi

steveschneider wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Davis played in 36/82 games his first season. 6 minutes/game.
He's played in 49/69 games this year...under 14 minutes/game...lately it's been in the 16 minute range...sidenote...they are tanking games for draft position.

And Wollerman NBA zero minutes. It’s just frustrating that we get to march and Izzo has these loaded rosters and some of his first round nba talent still looks like a deer in the headlights at the end of the season. The fact that wollerman or carter are playing over these guys in crucial games in March is a disturbing trend to me.

JJ has played like shit the last month. He looked lost on Sunday. He can blame himself for the lack of minutes (if he even cares).

Don't tell that to hot take steve, Nordy. He went to a game and saw offensive genius Beilein run revolutionary sets that got his players open 3 pointers that they made, whereas the Ben Carter offense got our players open 3 pointers that they missed. Izzo needs to change. I hope he steps down soon, I'm sick of his act.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Don't tell that to hot take steve, Nordy. He went to a game and saw offensive genius Beilein run revolutionary sets that got his players open 3 pointers that they made, whereas the Ben Carter offense got our players open 3 pointers that they missed. Izzo needs to change. I hope he steps down soon, I'm sick of his act.

I never asked for Izzo to retire or be fired. Just think he should adapt his game. We can disagree on Jackson but I think you put a player that talented on the floor in a game like that. Graham Couch says he would have stuck with him too. You can disagree with that but it’s a valid opinion.

Also, as disappointing as Sunday was I’m over it. It really is a great group of kids and I’m still proud of the coach and the team he assembled. 2018 B10 Champs is a great accomplishment. Go Green!

Izzo deserves the lion's share of the blame. His game plan. But one thing I will not blast him for is JJ's minutes. He's looked awful and disinterested for a while. Similar to Ward back in January when people were bitching about his minutes, he didn't earn more PT.

I believe that Izzo is partly(not totally) to blame for JJJ looking lost, disinterested and playing like crap down the stretch. Coaching a one and done is different animal and I think Izzo may struggle with it.

MSU commit Foster Loyer lights up Breslin Center again with 42-point performance

He's now down to one game left in what's been a standout high school career before he enrolls at Michigan State this summer. Clarkston will play Holland West Ottawa at 12:15 p.m. on Saturday for its second straight Class A state title. The game will be televised on Fox Sports Detroit.

Loyer goes for a State title - Noon today on FSD.

Be there.

1st shot by Loyer is a 3pter nothing but cotton.

Loyer's defense is... Less than impressive.

27 points with 1:22 to go in the st half.

And doesn't even seem to be forcing the issue.

LooseGoose wrote:27 points with 1:22 to go in the st half.

And doesn't even seem to be forcing the issue.

I’m sure you already posted Couch’s column about the class, but his write up about this kid has me really fired up. He sounds like he could have a Respert type of shot.

29 points/ 3 assists at the half.

Doesn't look strong or quick but sure can shoot.

N e updates on this?

Da Mayor wrote:N e updates on this?

Starters are out.
Clarkston up 40.
Running clock in the 4th.

Give me 3 Loyers and 2 Tillmans and I kill Syracuse.

Are we going to be slow and a liability on defense at PG the next 4 years, Goose?

Final score Clarkston wins 81-38

Foster with 40

Da Mayor wrote:Are we going to be slow and a liability on defense at PG the next 4 years, Goose?

WGAF when he's scoring 32ppg?

He's Scott Skiles on the court and Kirk Cousins off the court.

He will leave MSU an icon.

His legacy will be what Draymond, Denzel and Miles  wanted.

All these years I thought DeWeaver was the next chosen one and it was Loyer all along.

LooseGoose wrote:

Da Mayor wrote:Are we going to be slow and a liability on defense at PG the next 4 years, Goose?

WGAF when he's scoring 32ppg?

I GAF when the opposing PG is scoring 34ppg.

Da Mayor wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

WGAF when he's scoring 32ppg?

I GAF when the opposing PG is scoring 34ppg.

So twice a season you'll be upset. I'll take 32-2.

LooseGoose wrote:He's Scott Skiles on the court and Kirk Cousins off the court.

He will leave MSU an icon.

His legacy will be what Draymond, Denzel and Miles  wanted.

All these years I thought DeWeaver was the next chosen one and it was Loyer all along.

nail in the coffin #rip

CORNER BLITZ wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:He's Scott Skiles on the court and Kirk Cousins off the court.

He will leave MSU an icon.

His legacy will be what Draymond, Denzel and Miles  wanted.

All these years I thought DeWeaver was the next chosen one and it was Loyer all along.

nail in the coffin #rip

I’m coming back in three days to check this out.