Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
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Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
It means they can start stockpiling short range arms on the European border. It’s a win for them. Which is how it was planned.
This guy is bought and paid for.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/21/cold-war-weapons-treaty-inf-russia-us-donald-trump
This guy is bought and paid for.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/21/cold-war-weapons-treaty-inf-russia-us-donald-trump
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
Would you pick a fight with the company that holds your mortgage?
Between the Russian oligarchs, Saudi financiers connected to the Royal Family’s bank accounts and China manufacturing many of the Trump branded goods, President Trump has no room to care about the USA
Between the Russian oligarchs, Saudi financiers connected to the Royal Family’s bank accounts and China manufacturing many of the Trump branded goods, President Trump has no room to care about the USA
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING FUCK.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
Any joy I have at being right is destroyed by the fact that our president is a Kremlin stooge.
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I don't understand people. Abortion. Whatever other issues. Don't understand.
Common sense. It's not that hard. Common fucking sense. Put your guns and abortion scalpels aside. Put your race aside. Common fucking sense.
Common sense. It's not that hard. Common fucking sense. Put your guns and abortion scalpels aside. Put your race aside. Common fucking sense.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
I just wish the "pro life" folks when it comes to abortion were truly pro-life.WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't understand people. Abortion. Whatever other issues. Don't understand.
Common sense. It's not that hard. Common fucking sense. Put your guns and abortion scalpels aside. Put your race aside. Common fucking sense.
turns out, they're typically the most sadistic people in the country.
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I love feigned outrage.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
TheReal_LWS wrote:
I love feigned outrage.
^^^Goose sock puppet. Cute & original.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"...
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"....
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I don't exactly know what's going on, but I know that Putin has confused things enough in our country to be happy about it.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
Heat Miser wrote:TheReal_LWS wrote:
I love feigned outrage.
^^^Goose sock puppet. Cute & original.
Awwww, look at little Heatie..........the tool of tools.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
Um....Obama certified that Russia was violating the treaty back in 14. Why would we continue to abide by the treaty?
Now we can base missiles and radars in Poland ourselves to the determent of Russia and without violation of said treaty.
It's a plus for the USA and a minus for Putin
Now we can base missiles and radars in Poland ourselves to the determent of Russia and without violation of said treaty.
It's a plus for the USA and a minus for Putin
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if you believe the mainstream media it is.Dr. Strangelove wrote:Um....Obama certified that Russia was violating the treaty back in 14. Why would we continue to abide by the treaty?
Now we can base missiles and radars in Poland ourselves to the determent of Russia and without violation of said treaty.
It's a plus for the USA and a minus for Putin
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yeah - basically, it reinforces the notion that China is the sole world power and that the United States, in a shock to nobody, is under Putin's control.DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"....
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I don't exactly know what's going on, but I know that Putin has confused things enough in our country to be happy about it.
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DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"....
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I don't exactly know what's going on, but I know that Putin has confused things enough in our country to be happy about it.
European officials discussing the fallout in the coming months point to a possible increase in Russian cyber activities, including its influence campaigns, Russia is likely to use the US withdrawal as an excuse to deploy systems elsewhere and the certainty of finger-pointing, as Moscow works to assign blame.
"Russia will feel more legitimized to continue what it's doing now, but also increasing some of its efforts on missile technology and deploying them," said a European official.
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So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.
Got it
Got it
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Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.
Got it
I'm more worried about a fucked up Trump deal that uses his fucked up playbook of acting tough, escalating the conflict needlessly, and ultimately killing us all. The dummies voted in the wrong dumbfuck.
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No.Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.
Got it
Russia owns the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator, has videos of him raping little girls and, therefore, he does whatever Putin wants him to do.
Which is exactly what he did.
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.
Got it
How about, we stay in the treaty, and apply our massive economic advantage to beat them down, and force them to renegotiate the treaty to account for modern technologies, while simultaneously writing in provisions that exclude any activities related to China?
No wait. A better idea would be to just trash the whole thing (widely regarded as one of the best treaties of all time at dangerous arms reduction) so that Russia can start amassing short range missiles at the European border.
But hey, I'm sure this administration has a plan for what comes next. I mean they're known for their careful planning and flawless execution, right?
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Rocinante wrote:Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.
Got it
How about, we stay in the treaty, and apply our massive economic advantage to beat them down, and force them to renegotiate the treaty to account for modern technologies, while simultaneously writing in provisions that exclude any activities related to China?
No wait. A better idea would be to just trash the whole thing (widely regarded as one of the best treaties of all time at dangerous arms reduction) so that Russia can start amassing short range missiles at the European border.
But hey, I'm sure this administration has a plan for what comes next. I mean they're known for their careful planning and flawless execution, right?
So when Iran breaks the treaty we hit them with sanctions when Russia does we pullout so they don’t get hurt with any economic sanctions? Is that right?
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I'm sure there's a few European Banks that need to be punished for not loaning a con man money. I'm sorry. I meant Trump's strong bond with our European allies indicates he plans on putting missiles in Poland to protect them and deter Russia.
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There are a lot of big money investors who will welcome a return to stable, guaranteed value stocks of companies contracting to the DoD.
Back to the good old days of arms races
Back to the good old days of arms races
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GRR Spartan wrote:There are a lot of big money investors who will welcome a return to stable, guaranteed value stocks of companies contracting to the DoD.
Back to the good old days of arms races
How will Mexico pay for it?
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
Russia says it will build nuclear weapons previously banned under the disarmament treaty and no longer initiate talks with the United States
good thing we didn't elect the evil grandmother with the email account.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/world/europe/russia-inf-treaty.html#click=https://t.co/UsARb7dC7u
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Re: Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.
What happened to the dealmaker in cheif? Did he even try to talk to Russia about this?
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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:What happened to the dealmaker in cheif? Did he even try to talk to Russia about this?
Yes.
They told him to withdraw.. and he did.
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Lemme guess..
the mainstream media silly Sunday talk shows spent all morning expressing outrage at the racist VA governor and covering the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator's racist wall....
and NOT Russia's nuclear weapons proliferation?
the mainstream media silly Sunday talk shows spent all morning expressing outrage at the racist VA governor and covering the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator's racist wall....
and NOT Russia's nuclear weapons proliferation?
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