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Post by AvgMSUJoe 1/6/2020, 8:21 am

The feeling I get watching Cassius play is similar to watching Barry Sanders. You just know you are watching something special. The kid is amazing.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 1/6/2020, 8:38 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:The feeling I get watching Cassius play is similar to watching Barry Sanders. You just know you are watching something special. The kid is amazing.

The thing I laughed at the most yesterday (and I laughed quite a few times at his wizardry) was the step back three from the right wing. The two u of m defenders were like wtf we didn't see that coming, but Winston just calmly backed up three steps and stroked it.
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Post by Nordic 1/6/2020, 10:06 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:The feeling I get watching Cassius play is similar to watching Barry Sanders. You just know you are watching something special. The kid is amazing.

Good call.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 1/6/2020, 2:46 pm

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Post by DWags 1/6/2020, 4:32 pm

I hope some NBA team like the Bucks take him in the first round.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 1/7/2020, 9:42 am

New York Times: How Cassius Winston Greets His Late Brother Before Every Michigan State Game
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Post by steveschneider 1/7/2020, 9:57 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:New York Times: How Cassius Winston Greets His Late Brother Before Every Michigan State Game

That was powerful.
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Post by Nordic 1/7/2020, 10:59 pm

Iowa about to join OSU and PSU as road favorites to lose tonight. Are we the only BiG team to win on the road this season? It seems especially nasty this year.
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Post by NigelUno 1/7/2020, 11:16 pm

Nordic wrote:Iowa about to join OSU and PSU as road favorites to lose tonight. Are we the only BiG team to win on the road this season? It seems especially nasty this year.

Wisconsin won @ OSU and Rutgers won @ Nebraska on Friday.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 1/8/2020, 9:41 am

How Cassius Winston Greets His Late Brother Before Every Game

Time and his teammates have helped him heal. The process requires daily attention. Winston has learned to direct his sadness toward something positive. Some days are easier than others, but the process has allowed him to look at his life, basketball and his relationship with his late brother in a completely new way. And in the moments when he needs reminding that he isn’t alone, Winston, who graduated from Michigan State in three years with a bachelor’s degree in advertising management and is pursuing a master’s degree in sport coaching and leadership, remembers the elements of his new game day routine. In addition to the handshake, he also calls his parents, Wendi and Reg, and his other brother, Khy, before each game to make sure they are in a good space emotionally.
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Post by tGreenWay 1/8/2020, 10:44 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How Cassius Winston Greets His Late Brother Before Every Game

Time and his teammates have helped him heal. The process requires daily attention. Winston has learned to direct his sadness toward something positive. Some days are easier than others, but the process has allowed him to look at his life, basketball and his relationship with his late brother in a completely new way. And in the moments when he needs reminding that he isn’t alone, Winston, who graduated from Michigan State in three years with a bachelor’s degree in advertising management and is pursuing a master’s degree in sport coaching and leadership, remembers the elements of his new game day routine. In addition to the handshake, he also calls his parents, Wendi and Reg, and his other brother, Khy, before each game to make sure they are in a good space emotionally.




Thanks. Maybe there’s more insider info in the link you provided than the same one Floyd posted yesterday. tOfficial 2019-2020 MSU Men's Basketball Thread - Year 4 of the Cassius Winston Experience - Page 8 1494614055
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Post by DWags 1/12/2020, 11:58 am

Huge road test for the young guys. Brutal enemy territory. Henry will be vilified. Cash has never won there. Tillman admits to tendinitis in his knees. Mid January test. Let’s see if Rocket and Brown can take the hostile lights we know they’re good with the bright lights.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 1/12/2020, 12:00 pm

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Post by DWags 1/21/2020, 12:25 pm

So, Izzo says Bingham has lost 10 pounds during the season and his strength and stamina are becoming an issue.

We need to really asses the S&C at MSU. I personally know that they had the fucking dance team bulking up in the weight room. Yep, dancers. they had to meet bench press numbers weekly and had to increase to get "points" to go to events and shit. Dancers, bulking up. One time, during their use of the duffy for wind sprints Dantonio stepped in and stopped the guy making them run back and forth from the 10 back then 20 back and shit like that.

I'm not saying we should get rid of the staff or whatever, but maybe we shoudl have some kind of meeting of the minds and have set fitness and flexibility and strength standards for every team, every sport, every position every week. Maybe we do and I'm talking out my ass. Who knows.
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Post by NigelUno 1/21/2020, 1:15 pm

DWags wrote:So, Izzo says Bingham has lost 10 pounds during the season and his strength and stamina are becoming an issue.

We need to really asses the S&C at MSU. I personally know that they had the fucking dance team bulking up in the weight room. Yep, dancers. they had to meet bench press numbers weekly and had to increase to get "points" to go to events and shit. Dancers, bulking up. One time, during their use of the duffy for wind sprints Dantonio stepped in and stopped the guy making them run back and forth from the 10 back then 20 back and shit like that.

I'm not saying we should get rid of the staff or whatever, but maybe we shoudl have some kind of meeting of the minds and have set fitness and flexibility and strength standards for every team, every sport, every position every week. Maybe we do and I'm talking out my ass. Who knows.

Get him some PBJ sandwiches.
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Post by Banks2Mason 1/21/2020, 1:17 pm

DWags wrote:So, Izzo says Bingham has lost 10 pounds during the season and his strength and stamina are becoming an issue.

We need to really asses the S&C at MSU. I personally know that they had the fucking dance team bulking up in the weight room. Yep, dancers. they had to meet bench press numbers weekly and had to increase to get "points" to go to events and shit. Dancers, bulking up. One time, during their use of the duffy for wind sprints Dantonio stepped in and stopped the guy making them run back and forth from the 10 back then 20 back and shit like that.

I'm not saying we should get rid of the staff or whatever, but maybe we shoudl have some kind of meeting of the minds and have set fitness and flexibility and strength standards for every team, every sport, every position every week. Maybe we do and I'm talking out my ass. Who knows.

unless your name is derrick nix, it's tough to put on/keep weight on when your running all over a basketball court with high level D1 guys like 6 days a week
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Post by DWags 1/21/2020, 1:28 pm

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DWags wrote:So, Izzo says Bingham has lost 10 pounds during the season and his strength and stamina are becoming an issue.

We need to really asses the S&C at MSU. I personally know that they had the fucking dance team bulking up in the weight room. Yep, dancers. they had to meet bench press numbers weekly and had to increase to get "points" to go to events and shit. Dancers, bulking up. One time, during their use of the duffy for wind sprints Dantonio stepped in and stopped the guy making them run back and forth from the 10 back then 20 back and shit like that.

I'm not saying we should get rid of the staff or whatever, but maybe we shoudl have some kind of meeting of the minds and have set fitness and flexibility and strength standards for every team, every sport, every position every week. Maybe we do and I'm talking out my ass. Who knows.

unless your name is derrick nix, it's tough to put on/keep weight on when your running all over a basketball court with high level D1 guys like 6 days a week

I can only imagine. Are you saying most players lose 10 pounds like that? I have nothing to judge it on.
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Post by Banks2Mason 1/21/2020, 1:32 pm

DWags wrote:
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unless your name is derrick nix, it's tough to put on/keep weight on when your running all over a basketball court with high level D1 guys like 6 days a week

I can only imagine. Are you saying most players lose 10 pounds like that? I have nothing to judge it on.

i'm saying these kids probably burn more calories in a week than most people do in a year. and bingham obviously has a freakish build/metabolism. it just might not be possible for him to pack on 50 lbs or whatever
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Post by DWags 1/21/2020, 1:36 pm

Banks2Mason wrote:
DWags wrote:

I can only imagine. Are you saying most players lose 10 pounds like that? I have nothing to judge it on.

i'm saying these kids probably burn more calories in a week than most people do in a year. and bingham obviously has a freakish build/metabolism. it just might not be possible for him to pack on 50 lbs or whatever

Oh, I'm not disagreeing. My point was, maybe we should invest some money into all of that for our athletes. Nutrition, S&C for each team. Research on best practices. We probably do and I'm full of shit, but with the injuries we have in football and with my daughter and her teammates bulking up as dancers and now reading this, I just was thinking out loud, maybe MSU isn't on the elite level of S&C and Nurtition. Maybe we are, and I'm not saying we aren't state of the art, but it was just my thought.
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Post by Banks2Mason 1/21/2020, 1:39 pm

DWags wrote:
Banks2Mason wrote:

i'm saying these kids probably burn more calories in a week than most people do in a year. and bingham obviously has a freakish build/metabolism. it just might not be possible for him to pack on 50 lbs or whatever

Oh, I'm not disagreeing. My point was, maybe we should invest some money into all of that for our athletes. Nutrition, S&C for each team. Research on best practices. We probably do and I'm full of shit, but with the injuries we have in football and with my daughter and her teammates bulking up as dancers and now reading this, I just was thinking out loud, maybe MSU isn't on the elite level of S&C and Nurtition. Maybe we are, and I'm not saying we aren't state of the art, but it was just my thought.

given MSU's track record in virtually every area of athletics in the last few decades outside of Tom Izzo and a few years of Mark Dantonion I would agree that, yes, we are probably not on a elite level of S&C
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Post by NigelUno 1/21/2020, 1:44 pm

The muscle milk is there!

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 1/21/2020, 1:47 pm



We need fight milk.
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Post by NigelUno 1/21/2020, 1:54 pm

Maybe he had the gastro bug that was going around and/or isn't eating what they recommend.

He's battling out there. Going against bigger, stronger guys takes a lot out of you.

Cheerleaders should bring him pizza during the games.
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Post by Cameron 1/21/2020, 2:02 pm

If I were in charge of nutrition, I could get some weight on him. Not muscle, necessarily, but weight. Guinness and deep fried twinkies for every meal.
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Post by tGreenWay 1/21/2020, 4:34 pm

Seems like an usually large gap between games. What’s up with that?
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Post by InTenSity 1/21/2020, 7:04 pm

tGreenWay wrote:Seems like an usually large gap between games. What’s up with that?
1 week bye. It is actually falling in the middle of the season instead of the beginning or second to last week.
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Post by Nordic 1/21/2020, 8:09 pm

DWags wrote:So, Izzo says Bingham has lost 10 pounds during the season and his strength and stamina are becoming an issue.

We need to really asses the S&C at MSU. I personally know that they had the fucking dance team bulking up in the weight room. Yep, dancers. they had to meet bench press numbers weekly and had to increase to get "points" to go to events and shit. Dancers, bulking up. One time, during their use of the duffy for wind sprints Dantonio stepped in and stopped the guy making them run back and forth from the 10 back then 20 back and shit like that.

I'm not saying we should get rid of the staff or whatever, but maybe we shoudl have some kind of meeting of the minds and have set fitness and flexibility and strength standards for every team, every sport, every position every week. Maybe we do and I'm talking out my ass. Who knows.

No offense Dwags. But I'm going with the last one.
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Post by DWags 1/21/2020, 9:32 pm

Nordic wrote:
DWags wrote:So, Izzo says Bingham has lost 10 pounds during the season and his strength and stamina are becoming an issue.

We need to really asses the S&C at MSU. I personally know that they had the fucking dance team bulking up in the weight room. Yep, dancers. they had to meet bench press numbers weekly and had to increase to get "points" to go to events and shit. Dancers, bulking up. One time, during their use of the duffy for wind sprints Dantonio stepped in and stopped the guy making them run back and forth from the 10 back then 20 back and shit like that.

I'm not saying we should get rid of the staff or whatever, but maybe we shoudl have some kind of meeting of the minds and have set fitness and flexibility and strength standards for every team, every sport, every position every week. Maybe we do and I'm talking out my ass. Who knows.

No offense Dwags. But I'm going with the last one.

Yeah, I'm sure we probably do. I have experienced some stuff as a parent that I kind of scratched my head about, but I have no doubt they have good people in positions that know what they're doing.
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Post by tGreenWay 1/21/2020, 9:38 pm

InTenSity wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Seems like an usually large gap between games. What’s up with that?
1 week bye. It is actually falling in the middle of the season instead of the beginning or second to last week.



Thanks. Yeah, we save the super early or late bye weeks for football. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Nordic 2/9/2020, 3:02 pm

Good Vcast with Rico and PK

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9zcGFydGFubWFnLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL2ZlZWQueG1s&episode=c3BhcnRhbm1hZy5wb2RiZWFuLmNvbS84YTgzZmRiMi1jOTBiLTVhYWEtOTdjMi01NDNlYjkwZTI0Y2Q
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Post by Nordic 3/3/2020, 10:49 pm

The football team's problem is they didn't embrace the Neon

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Post by Nordic 3/3/2020, 11:06 pm

Looks like we win every tiebreaker scenario for the #1 tournie seed except if it a 3-way tie between MSU-Maryland-Wisky. In this case Wisky gets #1 and we get the #2. Root for MSU to win (obv), plus Ill to win out or Wisky to lose
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Post by DWags 3/3/2020, 11:31 pm

Wisconsin is home vs Northwestern and at Indiana. Forks down.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 3/5/2020, 9:09 pm

Illini go down @ OSU

One less team to potentially share with
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Post by DWags 3/5/2020, 9:37 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Illini go down @ OSU

One less team to potentially share with


Dont' look now, but our next opponent is pretty damn good.
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Post by Nordic 3/5/2020, 10:11 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Illini go down @ OSU

One less team to potentially share with

Illini winning out would of been good for our BTT tiebreaker scenarios, but whatever, my GAF level on the BTT is pretty low.

Need IU to beat Wisky.
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Post by Nordic 3/5/2020, 10:13 pm


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Dont' look now, but our next opponent is pretty damn good.  

Fuck the buckeyes. Ahrens ain't losing on senior night.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 3/5/2020, 10:33 pm

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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Illini go down @ OSU

One less team to potentially share with

Illini winning out would of been good for our BTT tiebreaker scenarios, but whatever, my GAF level on the BTT is pretty low.

Need IU to beat Wisky.

I always enjoy a good run in the BTT, tourney style is great basketball to watch over the course of a few days - but yeah, I'm more interested in sharing with less teams than seeding in the BTT. I have a feeling the BTT will be random as fuck anyway
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Post by kingstonlake 3/7/2020, 1:34 pm

Indiana doing their part for the good of the big ten.....
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