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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Mon 13 May 2019 - 8:55

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Mon 13 May 2019 - 8:55

Hahahahahhahahahahahaha

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Mon 13 May 2019 - 8:57

RIP to da competition.
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Post by InTenSity Mon 13 May 2019 - 8:59

What? Hmm.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:02

I like my thread better because of the laughing so I’m gonna leave it.
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Post by Nordic Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:05

lol! The fact that it is the Cavs makes it even better.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:14

Best thing Gilbert has done for MSU lately.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:14

Gilbert is going to buy the Tigers in the next 5 years. Wonder if he plans on keeping the Cavs. Interesting move. I'm not sure I see JB's offensive system as great a fit in the NBA.
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Post by DWags Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:22

Man had a heart attack, just lost three main players, nearing the end of his coaching career. Why not?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:23

He left for all the same reasons that Izzo almost did the same damn thing. And he’s probably right. Spending all of your days sucking up to 15 year olds gets old.
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Post by DWags Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:24

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:He left for all the same reasons that Izzo almost did the same damn thing. And he’s probably right. Spending all of your days sucking up to 15 year olds gets old.

Yep, I'd kill myself or somebody. Then, whoring yourself out to the big shots. At least Izzo doesn't pay them money. You need a special personality to do that.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:30

Wow. Izzo broke his spirit with those three wins and he'll always be in the shadow of Jim Harbaugh. Good riddance John Beilein.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:31

steveschneider wrote:Wow. Izzo broke his spirit with those three wins and he'll always be in the shadow of Jim Harbaugh. Good riddance John Beilein.

Belein > > > > Harbaugh
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Post by DWags Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:40

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steveschneider wrote:Wow. Izzo broke his spirit with those three wins and he'll always be in the shadow of Jim Harbaugh. Good riddance John Beilein.

Belein > > > > Harbaugh

So, I was actually wondering if that had something to do with it. I mean, two finals, probably should have beat Louisville. Great Big Ten record, developed players. Did well at finding the talent he needed and used it well. And forever, treated as the step child at Michigan. He was a second class coach there. And frankly, in my lifetime, I think he was the best coach they had in the two major sports. Better than Bo, better than Harbaugh, better than Frieder, Fischer. He was getting paid well, but I think the Harbaugh regime proved to him, he will always be a second thought there.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:45

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Belein > > > > Harbaugh

So, I was actually wondering if that had something to do with it.   I mean, two finals, probably should have beat Louisville.  Great Big Ten record, developed players.  Did well at finding the talent he needed and used it well.  And forever, treated as the step child at Michigan.   He was a second class coach there.   And frankly, in my lifetime, I think he was the best coach they had in the two major sports.  Better than Bo, better than Harbaugh, better than Frieder, Fischer.   He was getting paid well, but I think the Harbaugh regime proved to him, he will always be a second thought there.  

Maybe some of that second-fiddle played into it. As far as coaching and selling his program, Harbaugh could only dream of accomplishing what Belein did.

I bet it had more to do with his age being his last NBA chance, a mass-exodus of players leaving early and an offer he couldn't refuse.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:48

Beilein doesn't strike me as having the type of ego that is really going to care about playing 2nd fiddle to the football program. Izzo embraces being second fiddle, even if it's only sort of true.
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Post by DWags Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:49

Juwan Howard?
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 9:54

DWags wrote:Juwan Howard?

He'll go pro coach at some point. Would be such a short term hire.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:00

Wow!
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Post by MiamiSpartan Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:08

Didn't see that coming at all. Hopefully the next Brian Ellerbe is waiting in the wings.
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Post by tGreenWay Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:15

Well, bye.
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Post by DWags Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:15

steveschneider wrote:
DWags wrote:Juwan Howard?

He'll go pro coach at some point. Would be such a short term hire.


Might work out for both of them. Howard needs head coaching experience. Michigan needs a stop gap guy ASAP. But who knows. Was anyone on staff worth a damn?
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Post by Floyd Robertson Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:17

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

He'll go pro coach at some point. Would be such a short term hire.


Might work out for both of them.  Howard needs head coaching experience.  Michigan needs a stop gap guy ASAP.  But who knows.  Was anyone on staff worth a damn?  

Bacari Alexander is still nearby lol.


EDIT: Oops forgot he was fired in 2018.


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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:18

The rumblings are that the assistant coach they brought in, the defensive guru, Yaklich, could be the best fit.

I don't think they'd bring a Fab 5 guy back.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:24

Pitino still out of work?

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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:24

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

He'll go pro coach at some point. Would be such a short term hire.


Might work out for both of them. Howard needs head coaching experience. Michigan needs a stop gap guy ASAP. But who knows. Was anyone on staff worth a damn?

I heard he was in consideration for the Lakers job. With all his time on the bench as an assistant I think he'll move up to a HC job before too long. He many want to go back to A2 who knows, but I just get vibes from him that he's all about the league.
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Post by NigelUno Mon 13 May 2019 - 10:49

Beilein's buyout was $0.

Not a great job by the AD on that one.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 11:23

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2019/05/13/who-replace-john-beilein-michigan-wolverines-basketballl-coach/1187850001/

This list is hysterical. I'd be stunned if a pro coach left OKC or Boston to coach in Ann Arbor.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Mon 13 May 2019 - 11:27

steveschneider wrote:https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2019/05/13/who-replace-john-beilein-michigan-wolverines-basketballl-coach/1187850001/

This list is hysterical. I'd be stunned if a pro coach left OKC or Boston to coach in Ann Arbor.

Holy shit delusional.

Of the 3 on that list NOT from crazyland... two are current assistants.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 11:35

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
steveschneider wrote:https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2019/05/13/who-replace-john-beilein-michigan-wolverines-basketballl-coach/1187850001/

This list is hysterical. I'd be stunned if a pro coach left OKC or Boston to coach in Ann Arbor.

Holy shit delusional.

Of the 3 on that list NOT from crazyland... two are current assistants.

Yeah, it's funny. I'm shocked they left Popovich and Steve Kerr off the list. Hell Maybe Lebron or Durant would like to retire early so they can take up a first time coaching gig in Ann Arbor.
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Post by Cameron Mon 13 May 2019 - 11:43

I'm surprised he didn't float Izzo to UM if we're going to crazytown.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Mon 13 May 2019 - 12:09

steveschneider wrote:https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2019/05/13/who-replace-john-beilein-michigan-wolverines-basketballl-coach/1187850001/

This list is hysterical. I'd be stunned if a pro coach left OKC or Boston to coach in Ann Arbor.

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Post by DWags Mon 13 May 2019 - 12:44

U of M can pay pretty damn well, so I don't think that's a deal. We all know that a big reason is not having to recruit, so that's a big negative for a college trying to get a professional to come back and coach. But whatever, there's good and bad about every job. I know I'm doine being shocked about any of this. Coaches leaving or getting hired.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 13:08

This is a rare day where I will tune into Valenti to hear what he has to say.
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Post by NigelUno Mon 13 May 2019 - 13:46

steveschneider wrote:https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2019/05/13/who-replace-john-beilein-michigan-wolverines-basketballl-coach/1187850001/

This list is hysterical. I'd be stunned if a pro coach left OKC or Boston to coach in Ann Arbor.

I'd say the bottom 3 on the list (excluding Pitino) are way more likely than the top 3.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 14:15

Pretty lame take. I give Valenti a C-. I've heard him do better with this type of bomb shell.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 14:25

Using this move to just trash the Pistons. He's butt hurt the Pistons didn't tank it.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 14:26

Oh it's Sully's turn to just re-iterate everything Mike said and to suck up to the boss. It's embarrassing.
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Post by steveschneider Mon 13 May 2019 - 15:20

Just some last thoughts and honestly after this I probably won't give a fuck until they make a hire:

1) I buy into that the odds they improve on their current situation are pretty damn slim
2) Michigan fans seem to think that Beilein was holding them back from recruiting (it's all about winning recruiting titles in that town). I don't see this happening unless they are open to hiring a cheater. If they hire a cheater with the improved facilities maybe they would start landing the 5 star croots
3) I think they go for the guy from Butler or an assistant
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Post by NigelUno Mon 13 May 2019 - 15:26

steveschneider wrote:Just some last thoughts and honestly after this I probably won't give a fuck until they make a hire:

1) I buy into that the odds they improve on their current situation are pretty damn slim
2) Michigan fans seem to think that Beilein was holding them back from recruiting (it's all about winning recruiting titles in that town). I don't see this happening unless they are open to hiring a cheater. If they hire a cheater with the improved facilities maybe they would start landing the 5 star croots
3) I think they go for the guy from Butler or an assistant

I bet Pitino tries desperately to get an interview.
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