Re: Coronavirus?? We gone?

by **Jake from State Farm** 2020-03-18, 12:49

Heat Miser wrote:

U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

I've got close to 2 gallons of maple syrup. That should get me past the worst of it.

by **Dendrobates** 2020-03-18, 12:50

Another conference call reiterating your family comes first, then do what you can work wise. Super cool guys. I think that helps keep the morale and makes people want to do well with knowing the company has your back.

by **Heat Miser** 2020-03-18, 12:51

DWags wrote:Jefferson plant stops production with line workers screaming at each other. Many are “freaking out”.

Fiat Chrysler workers pissed off.

Continuing to produce cars seems kinda dumb. Who's going to buy them? If the dealerships are even open, who's going to them?

by **CORNER BLITZ** 2020-03-18, 13:00

F the nytimes and their subscription crap. Lol to Jake though

by **Heat Miser** 2020-03-18, 13:14

We Were Warned

When the inevitable inquiry into the government's response to COVID-19 happens, it will conclude that signs of a coming crisis were everywhere.

by **Heat Miser** 2020-03-18, 13:19

FYI

WHO Now Officially Recommends to Avoid Taking Ibuprofen For COVID-19 Symptoms

by **Nordic** 2020-03-18, 13:39

Heat Miser wrote:

U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

Someone get Steve his paper bag

It is actually a good read.

by **Nordic** 2020-03-18, 13:43

Heat Miser wrote:
DWags wrote:Jefferson plant stops production with line workers screaming at each other. Many are “freaking out”.

Fiat Chrysler workers pissed off.

Continuing to produce cars seems kinda dumb. Who's going to buy them? If the dealerships are even open, who's going to them?

It is asinine. Lots are going to be flooded with Super Duties.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-03-18, 13:49

realizing it's not the most important thing facing us, but now I'm kinda thinking football season might not happen.

by **Heat Miser** 2020-03-18, 13:49

This is one seriously elaborate hoax.

Hospital Ship Headed to New York as Virus Count Spikes: Live Updates

Hospitals are straining under the coronavirus. The big wave coming could break them

by **Nordic** 2020-03-18, 13:50

Turtleneck wrote:[tw]1240131226268323842?s=20[/tw]

Do what you want with this, but one of the reasons we fell so far behind is because a major cable network that reaches over one million people per day refused to accept the danger of this virus. They told its viewers there was nothing to see here. This type of malpractice put the whole country at risk.

Stay off Twitter ~~Steve~~ Turtleneck

by **Nordic** 2020-03-18, 13:51

Robert J Sakimano wrote:realizing it's not the most important thing facing us, but now I'm kinda thinking football season might not happen.

You shut your mouth

by **steveschneider** 2020-03-18, 13:56

Heat Miser wrote:This is one seriously elaborate hoax.

Hospital Ship Headed to New York as Virus Count Spikes: Live Updates

Hospitals are straining under the coronavirus. The big wave coming could break them

New York new cases went up over 1000 since yesterday. They are saying possibly 10,000. Our friend that works in the local hospital says they are predicting that where we are at the wave will crash into them by June. This is going to be really bad folks.

by **Nordic** 2020-03-18, 13:57

Nordic wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Continuing to produce cars seems kinda dumb. Who's going to buy them? If the dealerships are even open, who's going to them?

It is asinine. Lots are going to be flooded with Super Duties.

I don't have a link, but it sounds like the plants are shutting down. More to come.

by **DWags** 2020-03-18, 14:02

Nordic wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:[tw]1240131226268323842?s=20[/tw]

Do what you want with this, but one of the reasons we fell so far behind is because a major cable network that reaches over one million people per day refused to accept the danger of this virus. They told its viewers there was nothing to see here. This type of malpractice put the whole country at risk.

Stay off Twitter ~~Steve~~ Turtleneck

Yeah, but Fox is a cheering group for this administration. They need to add “we were wrong” to that shit.

Fuck them.

by **steveschneider** 2020-03-18, 14:07

DWags wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Stay off Twitter ~~Steve~~ Turtleneck

Yeah, but Fox is a cheering group for this administration. They need to add “we were wrong” to that shit.

Fuck them.

All of those are op-ed shows, but still....I've said it before they actually have industry leading journalists or they did at one point (I haven't watched in a long time). A lot of them resigned with a conscience over the last couple of years. My take is though why wade through the muck to get to the good news on the channel?

by **The Pantry** 2020-03-18, 14:10

You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

by **CORNER BLITZ** 2020-03-18, 14:11

The freak out and panic of these waves is going to be... Yikes

What can be done about that? Do we need two different releases one from Obama and one from Trump that's like chill, don't panic, if you think you have it call x number to talk through and save going in for y demographic unless you have z symptoms showing already, etc

by **CORNER BLITZ** 2020-03-18, 14:11

The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

But other countries are doing so well....

by **duffy munn** 2020-03-18, 14:11

Robert J Sakimano wrote:with the grotesque absence of leadership at the federal level, when all of this is (hopefully) behind us, we're going to sit back and admire the leadership of the state/local government (speaking of DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer, Inslee in Washington state, Cuomo has been very impressive), school districts (East Lansing Public Schools have been on the forefront of engaging with the community, providing meals to local people - not just students in need), and entities that cancelled events such as basketball tournaments, SXSW, Coachella, etc.

They saved lives.. and were on the forefront of 'flattening the curve'.

I've stayed in since last Wednesday. Haven't hardly ventured out in public (except to run in the mornings, etc) - did some serious yard work, too - so, consider that a good way to beat the monotony of social distancing. Transplanted daylillies, hostas, cut down ornamental grasses that I like to leave up through the winter.. basically a lot of spring clean up.

Nigel is right in that local restaurants are trying to hang in with 'take out' but that is going to be brutal. I've been in touch with some of my restaurant/bar pals (owners) and it's going to be tough for a while.

DWags, I know you take no pride in this thread, but you started what will likely go down as the most important thread in the history of the Swill.

y'all take care. Reach out to folks (text, phone, etc) - means a lot when someone randomly checks in on your sanity.

Great post Bob. On the bar front, I think Joe and Jennifer plus Margie and Mark will be fine if this shutdown only lasts a couple of weeks. If it goes for months all bets are off. I feel the worst for the Jill's and little Skuz's of the world.

by **duffy munn** 2020-03-18, 14:17

The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

If you can say this here but everyone else has to take to the Bin I say fuck it.

I have zero confidence in the President now and going forward with this crisis. But this is what we get we we ( you) elect a real estate conman/ reality TV show host. While it does appear he is finally listening to the experts, he is also consulting with Jared fucking Kushner.

Sorry man but your hero is a complete buffoon.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-03-18, 14:18

duffy munn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:with the grotesque absence of leadership at the federal level, when all of this is (hopefully) behind us, we're going to sit back and admire the leadership of the state/local government (speaking of DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer, Inslee in Washington state, Cuomo has been very impressive), school districts (East Lansing Public Schools have been on the forefront of engaging with the community, providing meals to local people - not just students in need), and entities that cancelled events such as basketball tournaments, SXSW, Coachella, etc.

They saved lives.. and were on the forefront of 'flattening the curve'.

I've stayed in since last Wednesday. Haven't hardly ventured out in public (except to run in the mornings, etc) - did some serious yard work, too - so, consider that a good way to beat the monotony of social distancing. Transplanted daylillies, hostas, cut down ornamental grasses that I like to leave up through the winter.. basically a lot of spring clean up.

Nigel is right in that local restaurants are trying to hang in with 'take out' but that is going to be brutal. I've been in touch with some of my restaurant/bar pals (owners) and it's going to be tough for a while.

DWags, I know you take no pride in this thread, but you started what will likely go down as the most important thread in the history of the Swill.

y'all take care. Reach out to folks (text, phone, etc) - means a lot when someone randomly checks in on your sanity.

Great post Bob. On the bar front, I think Joe and Jennifer plus Margie and Mark will be fine if this shutdown only lasts a couple of weeks. If it goes for months all bets are off. I feel the worst for the Jill's and little Skuz's of the world.

yep - talked with Jennifer some.. pretty tough for her and Joe but they'll be fine. Little Skuz, Jill, Brad, Shea, Deana, Greg, etc - are gonna struggle.

Just sucks in ways we don't even fully realize yet.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-03-18, 14:20

duffy munn wrote:
The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

If you can say this here but everyone else has to take to the Bin I say fuck it.

I have zero confidence in the President now and going forward with this crisis. But this is what we get we we ( you) elect a real estate conman/ reality TV show host. While it does appear he is finally listening to the experts, he is also consulting with Jared fucking Kushner.

Sorry man but your hero is a complete buffoon.

yep - that's why early on when certain folks were whining about making it 'political' - guess what, it is political. It's political because someone who is morally and ethically depraved and can't run a lemonade stand without filing bankruptcy was elected by a bunch of racist, bigots because he made them feel better about their own pathetic station in life.

well, he got away with it for about 3 years.. but now we've been sent the bill.

the deplorables don't have to like it - but it doesn't make it any less true.

by **NigelUno** 2020-03-18, 14:27

The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

I think even Pence would have handled it better. Or McCain. Or Bush.

But, seriously...take your anger to tBin.

by **Dendrobates** 2020-03-18, 14:38

So not to cause panic, but my daughter and I are sick. It started yesterday. It’s more of a cold right now but the difference is the cough (shortness of breath, which always go hand in hand with me being an asthmatic). I usually don’t get a cough until the end of this stuff. A cold is most likely, but we’re keeping an eye if we need to call the doc.

by **Turtleneck** 2020-03-18, 14:38

The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

Of course you would say that. The current president could poison your breakfast burrito right in front of you and you would thank him. A real leader would have taken decisive action much earlier, except Trump was like...

[tw]1240155887962075136?s=20[/tw]

...just making stuff up instead of actually doing his homework and responding.

by **steveschneider** 2020-03-18, 14:38

duffy munn wrote:
The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

If you can say this here but everyone else has to take to the Bin I say fuck it.

I have zero confidence in the President now and going forward with this crisis. But this is what we get we we ( you) elect a real estate conman/ reality TV show host. While it does appear he is finally listening to the experts, he is also consulting with Jared fucking Kushner.

Sorry man but your hero is a complete buffoon.

Coronavirus?? We gone? - Page 8 1486952199

I lived in New York during 9/11. I was grateful for Guilliani and I can tell you right now no one liked Bush in that town but every single New Yorker I know was united and fired up after this speech.

That's how you fuckin do it.

by **Turtleneck** 2020-03-18, 14:41

DWags wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Stay off Twitter ~~Steve~~ Turtleneck

Yeah, but Fox is a cheering group for this administration. They need to add “we were wrong” to that shit.

Fuck them.

I think the more general point is that Fox News is a threat to U.S. national security. They played a role in this, especially knowing they have the president's ear.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-03-18, 14:43

Dendrobates wrote:So not to cause panic, but my daughter and I are sick. It started yesterday. It’s more of a cold right now but the difference is the cough (shortness of breath, which always go hand in hand with me being an asthmatic). I usually don’t get a cough until the end of this stuff. A cold is most likely, but we’re keeping an eye if we need to call the doc.

ugh - keep us posted, Dendro.

by **duffy munn** 2020-03-18, 14:44

Turtleneck wrote:
The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

Of course you would say that. The current president could poison your breakfast burrito right in front of you and you would thank them. A real leader would have taken decisive action much earlier, except Trump was like...

[tw]1240155887962075136?s=20[/tw]

...just making stuff up instead of actually doing is homework and responding.

All you really need to know is Trump referred to the numbers as "my numbers". He doesn't give a fuck about us. Only about himself.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-03-18, 14:49

NigelUno wrote:
The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

I think even Pence would have handled it better. Or McCain. Or Bush.

But, seriously...take your anger to tBin.

yep - my thoughts on this situation has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ignorance and incompetence.

Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, heck, even Ted Cruz.. would've handle this entire situation different starting, likely, back in December.. definitely by January.

And, no, they wouldn't have stopped the virus from entering the US, but they would've mobilized our healthcare system, screening of people coming into the country, consulted with infectious disease experts who believe and trust science and implemented a national response by Super Bowl Sunday in the first weekend of February.

by saying "don't politicize this", what they're actually saying is "don't hold me and my hero accountable for our wilful ignorance that has cost American lives and forever changed our social, cultural and economic well-being".

by **DWags** 2020-03-18, 14:55

Dendrobates wrote:So not to cause panic, but my daughter and I are sick. It started yesterday. It’s more of a cold right now but the difference is the cough (shortness of breath, which always go hand in hand with me being an asthmatic). I usually don’t get a cough until the end of this stuff. A cold is most likely, but we’re keeping an eye if we need to call the doc.

Thoughts are with you. If the kiddo is sick it’s probably a good sign actually. Not that it’s the virus but that it’s just the shitty flu. Thinking of you guys.

by **NigelUno** 2020-03-18, 14:55

The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

Are you happy or satisfied with The President's response to this crisis?

by **Tim Wakefield** 2020-03-18, 14:58

The Pantry wrote:You guys are kidding yourselves if you think things would be so much better now had someone else been in office.

Are you willing to change your mind about this administration based on its actions? If yes, what else could it possibly take for that to happen? If not, why not?

by **NigelUno** 2020-03-18, 14:58

Dendrobates wrote:So not to cause panic, but my daughter and I are sick. It started yesterday. It’s more of a cold right now but the difference is the cough (shortness of breath, which always go hand in hand with me being an asthmatic). I usually don’t get a cough until the end of this stuff. A cold is most likely, but we’re keeping an eye if we need to call the doc.

There is drive thru testing in Jackson (not sure where you live).

by **DWags** 2020-03-18, 14:59

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think even Pence would have handled it better. Or McCain. Or Bush.

But, seriously...take your anger to tBin.
yep - my thoughts on this situation has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ignorance and incompetence.

Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, heck, even Ted Cruz.. would've handle this entire situation different starting, likely, back in December.. definitely by January.

And, no, they wouldn't have stopped the virus from entering the US, but they would've mobilized our healthcare system, screening of people coming into the country, consulted with infectious disease experts who believe and trust science and implemented a national response by Super Bowl Sunday in the first weekend of February.

by saying "don't politicize this", what they're actually saying is "don't hold me and my hero accountable for our wilful ignorance that has cost American lives and forever changed our social, cultural and economic well-being".

I mean even an idiot like me thought maybe this was bad when I started this thread in mid January. That’s a week before Trump said it was under control and no problem.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-03-18, 15:00

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: yep - my thoughts on this situation has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ignorance and incompetence.

Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, heck, even Ted Cruz.. would've handle this entire situation different starting, likely, back in December.. definitely by January.

And, no, they wouldn't have stopped the virus from entering the US, but they would've mobilized our healthcare system, screening of people coming into the country, consulted with infectious disease experts who believe and trust science and implemented a national response by Super Bowl Sunday in the first weekend of February.

by saying "don't politicize this", what they're actually saying is "don't hold me and my hero accountable for our wilful ignorance that has cost American lives and forever changed our social, cultural and economic well-being".

I mean even an idiot like me thought maybe this was bad when I started this thread in mid January. That’s a week before Trump said it was under control and no problem.

yep.

by **NigelUno** 2020-03-18, 15:03

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: yep - my thoughts on this situation has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ignorance and incompetence.

Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, heck, even Ted Cruz.. would've handle this entire situation different starting, likely, back in December.. definitely by January.

And, no, they wouldn't have stopped the virus from entering the US, but they would've mobilized our healthcare system, screening of people coming into the country, consulted with infectious disease experts who believe and trust science and implemented a national response by Super Bowl Sunday in the first weekend of February.

by saying "don't politicize this", what they're actually saying is "don't hold me and my hero accountable for our wilful ignorance that has cost American lives and forever changed our social, cultural and economic well-being".

I mean even an idiot like me thought maybe this was bad when I started this thread in mid January. That’s a week before Trump said it was under control and no problem.

DWags for President.

Sorry if that offends The Pantry.

by **Turtleneck** 2020-03-18, 15:05

NigelUno wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:So not to cause panic, but my daughter and I are sick. It started yesterday. It’s more of a cold right now but the difference is the cough (shortness of breath, which always go hand in hand with me being an asthmatic). I usually don’t get a cough until the end of this stuff. A cold is most likely, but we’re keeping an eye if we need to call the doc.

There is drive thru testing in Jackson (not sure where you live).

But doesn't that mean you have to go to Jackson?

by **NigelUno** 2020-03-18, 15:08

Turtleneck wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

There is drive thru testing in Jackson (not sure where you live).

But doesn't that mean you have to go to Jackson?

No. You just drive through...

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