Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing

by **kingstonlake** 2021-12-11, 09:44

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/6450751001

It's almost like they want to build batteries close to existing manufacturing facilities.....

by **kingstonlake** 2021-12-11, 09:46

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/triangle-sandhills/ap-top-news/2021/12/10/gm-venture-picks-michigan-for-3rd-us-based-ev-battery-plant

General Motors and a joint-venture partner plan to build an electric vehicle battery factory in Lansing, Michigan, their third such factory in the U.S.

The companies' plans were revealed Friday in documents posted on the city's website. They say the plant would cost up to $2.5 billion and employ as many as 1,700 workers.

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-11, 09:53

Seems like the Governor & the Republicans have found more common ground, which will happen when people work together on harder issues like a state budget they both agree on.

quote from article - The news Friday came as Michigan lawmakers and Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's administration, partially inspired by the prospects of the GM project, are racing to create a major new economic development program. The initiative, which could gain final legislative approval on Tuesday, would allow the state to provide funding for large projects to improve sites, to acquire land and to distribute "economic assistance" to create jobs.

by RQA 2021-12-11, 14:35

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2021/09/27/ford-to-lead-americas-shift-to-electric-vehicles.html

11 billion of Ford money to create 11,000 jobs in Tennesee.

If this were a basketball game Whitmer would be behind 11-1. And not even counting the Toyota money going to NC.

by AvgMSUJoe 2021-12-11, 14:46

RQA wrote:https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2021/09/27/ford-to-lead-americas-shift-to-electric-vehicles.html

11 billion of Ford money to create 11,000 jobs in Tennesee.

If this were a basketball game Whitmer would be behind 11-1. And not even counting the Toyota money going to NC.

you'd think all the republican majority shitheads in house would have passed a bill or something to help get these plants. (Ya know, without funding religious schools or killing democracy or all of the other unconscionable bullshit they pass in their bills)

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-11, 14:57

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
RQA wrote:https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2021/09/27/ford-to-lead-americas-shift-to-electric-vehicles.html

11 billion of Ford money to create 11,000 jobs in Tennesee.

If this were a basketball game Whitmer would be behind 11-1. And not even counting the Toyota money going to NC.
you'd think all the republican majority shitheads in house would have passed a bill or something to help get these plants. (Ya know, without funding religious schools or killing democracy or all of the other unconscionable bullshit they pass in their bills)

It took a big kick in their ass to get them to see that lowering business taxes wasn't working.

by RQA 2021-12-11, 15:10

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
RQA wrote:https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2021/09/27/ford-to-lead-americas-shift-to-electric-vehicles.html

11 billion of Ford money to create 11,000 jobs in Tennesee.

If this were a basketball game Whitmer would be behind 11-1. And not even counting the Toyota money going to NC.
you'd think all the republican majority shitheads in house would have passed a bill or something to help get these plants. (Ya know, without funding religious schools or killing democracy or all of the other unconscionable bullshit they pass in their bills)

Sorry, this is on Whitmer. Lack of leadership in working towards a business environment that is attractive to investment.

But she was likely busy partying maskless at the Hotel Washington bar or flying private to FL while telling her serfs not to leave the state.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-12-11, 17:17

Free federal power for a battery complex that uses 5x the amount of a traditional factory.

Yeah. Whitmers fault.

by Pervis Muldoon 2021-12-11, 17:48

RQA wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:you'd think all the republican majority shitheads in house would have passed a bill or something to help get these plants. (Ya know, without funding religious schools or killing democracy or all of the other unconscionable bullshit they pass in their bills)

Sorry, this is on Whitmer. Lack of leadership in working towards a business environment that is attractive to investment.

But she was likely busy partying maskless at the Hotel Washington bar or flying private to FL while telling her serfs not to leave the state.

You have such a cartoonish view of Whitmer. Meanwhile, the leader of your party is an actual cartoon character - and you voted for him twice.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-12-11, 18:07

Q's endorsement of socialism and big government is noted.

by **Jake from State Farm** 2021-12-11, 18:56

RQA wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:you'd think all the republican majority shitheads in house would have passed a bill or something to help get these plants. (Ya know, without funding religious schools or killing democracy or all of the other unconscionable bullshit they pass in their bills)

Sorry, this is on Whitmer. Lack of leadership in working towards a business environment that is attractive to investment.

But she was likely busy partying maskless at the Hotel Washington bar or flying private to FL while telling her serfs not to leave the state.

Well I suppose she could've been off golfing while half a million people died.

by AvgMSUJoe 2021-12-11, 19:12

It has been established (see covid response) any strict executive action would be immediately shut down in the legislature... this is all on those with the power, the Rs in the majority. They failed you're quest for battery plants RQA, you shouldn't vote for them anymore.

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-11, 22:45

AvgMSUJoe wrote:It has been established (see covid response) any strict executive action would be immediately shut down in the legislature... this is all on those with the power, the Rs in the majority. They failed you're quest for battery plants RQA, you shouldn't vote for them anymore.

The good out of all this is that the Republicans, following Governor Whitmer, have come around to understand that this is a state-by-state competition, and that lower business taxes are not the answer, in general.

by **GRR Spartan** 2021-12-12, 08:06

Why the hell isn’t the “conservative” troll RQA moving to that job paradise Kentucky? He might get a helluva deal on some land that need to be cleared.

Maybe move to job heaven Texas or employer friendly Florida?

You know it’s a schtick because no one so motivated to post like he does would stay in a state like MI that’s done so many things he opposes for at least a dozen years.

by RQA 2021-12-12, 11:02

GRR Spartan wrote:Why the hell isn’t the “conservative” troll RQA moving to that job paradise Kentucky? He might get a helluva deal on some land that need to be cleared.

Maybe move to job heaven Texas or employer friendly Florida?

You know it’s a schtick because no one so motivated to post like he does would stay in a state like MI that’s done so many things he opposes for at least a dozen years.

I like living in Michigan. I like the climate. I enjoy being around my favorite sports teams. My family is here. My business is here.

I see no reason to move just because our governor is an idiot. My response to that is to help elect someone better.

by RQA 2021-12-12, 11:04

Jake from State Farm wrote:
RQA wrote:

Sorry, this is on Whitmer. Lack of leadership in working towards a business environment that is attractive to investment.

But she was likely busy partying maskless at the Hotel Washington bar or flying private to FL while telling her serfs not to leave the state.

Well I suppose she could've been off golfing while half a million people died.

She isn't a golfer as far as I know but she was spotted partying maskless in DC while thousands of people in MI are dying.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-12-12, 11:30

RQA wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Why the hell isn’t the “conservative” troll RQA moving to that job paradise Kentucky? He might get a helluva deal on some land that need to be cleared.

Maybe move to job heaven Texas or employer friendly Florida?

You know it’s a schtick because no one so motivated to post like he does would stay in a state like MI that’s done so many things he opposes for at least a dozen years.

I like living in Michigan. I like the climate. I enjoy being around my favorite sports teams. My family is here. My business is here.

I see no reason to move just because our governor is an idiot. My response to that is to help elect someone better.

Does your business get free big government socialism power from the down river valley authority?

by **GRR Spartan** 2021-12-12, 12:17

Bitch Bitch Bitch about how poorly a Democrat in the governor’s chair is responsible for KY giving away the farm to subsidize battery and auto assembly plants but never wants to move to KY or other places that routinely pick winners and losers.

11 years ago the poster calling themselves RQA was very critical of then Gov. Granholm, Senators Levin and Stabenow for choosing winners and losers when LG announced construction of its lithium battery assembly plant in Holland MI.

https://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/2010/03/lg_chem_to_build_1st_north_ame.html

Trump cheerleader RQA remained silent on LG’s Nov 30 2021 announcement that they are going to expand production the Holland MI plant adding on using the 40 acres they own next to their existing facility.

But that isn’t bad news for Trump’s Pom Pom boy

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2021/11/30/lg-says-expand-electric-vehicle-battery-production-michigan/8809184002/

by AvgMSUJoe 2021-12-12, 12:48

GRR Spartan wrote:Bitch Bitch Bitch about how poorly a Democrat in the governor’s chair is responsible for KY giving away the farm to subsidize battery and auto assembly plants but never wants to move to KY or other places that routinely pick winners and losers.

11 years ago the poster calling themselves RQA was very critical of then Gov. Granholm, Senators Levin and Stabenow for choosing winners and losers when LG announced construction of its lithium battery assembly plant in Holland MI.

https://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/2010/03/lg_chem_to_build_1st_north_ame.html

Trump cheerleader RQA remained silent on LG’s Nov 30 2021 announcement that they are going to expand production the Holland MI plant adding on using the 40 acres they own next to their existing facility.

But that isn’t bad news for Trump’s Pom Pom boy

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2021/11/30/lg-says-expand-electric-vehicle-battery-production-michigan/8809184002/

And this post proves why attempting to project private business decisions on the current elected officials is at best shortsighted, but really just partisan vomit. If the entire government (like passes a bill govt) will give away the farm (ie, Wisconsin's ill fated foray into chip manufacturering)... then you can "blame the govt" otherwise it's just stupid. (For the exact same reasons you don't pick up and move to florida...)
Why your actions don't follow your logic, then either your logic is flawed or you just pulled some talking point out of your ass...

by **Jake from State Farm** 2021-12-12, 14:46

RQA wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

Well I suppose she could've been off golfing while half a million people died.

She isn't a golfer as far as I know but she was spotted partying maskless in DC while thousands of people in MI are dying.

I hope it wasn't a dinner party, because that would be way worse than golfing on a daily basis when your citizens are dying by the thousands on a daily basis.

by PennSpartan 2021-12-12, 16:28

Jake from State Farm wrote:
RQA wrote:

She isn't a golfer as far as I know but she was spotted partying maskless in DC while thousands of people in MI are dying.

I hope it wasn't a dinner party, because that would be way worse than golfing on a daily basis when your citizens are dying by the thousands on a daily basis.

Why are they dying? Did the vaccine kill them? The masks?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2021-12-13, 09:42

kingstonlake wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/6450751001

It's almost like they want to build batteries close to existing manufacturing facilities.....

Gov. Whitmer is a great American doing great things for the state of Michigan.

not at all surprising that she's a target of the hate-filled, christian misogynists. Good thing is, she enjoys that role. Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing 969504605

Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing 969504605

by AvgMSUJoe 2021-12-13, 09:45

PennSpartan wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

I hope it wasn't a dinner party, because that would be way worse than golfing on a daily basis when your citizens are dying by the thousands on a daily basis.
Why are they dying? Did the vaccine kill them? The masks?

This is always the question to ask your jackass uncle.

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-13, 09:59

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Bitch Bitch Bitch about how poorly a Democrat in the governor’s chair is responsible for KY giving away the farm to subsidize battery and auto assembly plants but never wants to move to KY or other places that routinely pick winners and losers.

11 years ago the poster calling themselves RQA was very critical of then Gov. Granholm, Senators Levin and Stabenow for choosing winners and losers when LG announced construction of its lithium battery assembly plant in Holland MI.

https://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/2010/03/lg_chem_to_build_1st_north_ame.html

Trump cheerleader RQA remained silent on LG’s Nov 30 2021 announcement that they are going to expand production the Holland MI plant adding on using the 40 acres they own next to their existing facility.

But that isn’t bad news for Trump’s Pom Pom boy

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2021/11/30/lg-says-expand-electric-vehicle-battery-production-michigan/8809184002/

And this post proves why attempting to project private business decisions on the current elected officials is at best shortsighted, but really just partisan vomit. If the entire government (like passes a bill govt) will give away the farm (ie, Wisconsin's ill fated foray into chip manufacturering)... then you can "blame the govt" otherwise it's just stupid. (For the exact same reasons you don't pick up and move to florida...)
Why your actions don't follow your logic, then either your logic is flawed or you just pulled some talking point out of your ass...

While I have said there is an element, and maybe a big element, of politics in major corporation's choices for major plant locations, certainly for the defense industry there is, it appears that the Michigan State government had its hands tied when it came to competing for the new Ford & GM plants. The use of government to make land available and provide tax abatements may not have been the only issues, as lower power costs, due to TVA, and proximity to raw materials may have played a part.

Michigan changed its business tax law back in 2011, and we, the citizens of Michigan were told this would make Michigan highly attractive for new business investment. It is clear that was not nearly enough for the major sort of investments that Ford & GM are making. It is good that these events have been a kick in the pants for the State government and both the Republicans & Democratics are on the same page one this.

by RQA 2021-12-14, 08:52

kingstonlake wrote:Free federal power for a battery complex that uses 5x the amount of a traditional factory.

Tell me more about this "free federal power".

Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing 276803595

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-15, 09:54

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/12/michigan-lawmakers-ok-1b-for-economic-incentives-to-attract-big-business-investments.html

The bills passed late Tuesday night after a lengthy session as lawmakers and the administration worked to shepherd the package through before the Legislature breaks for the year. The legislation heads next to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s desk.

Whitmer praised the package in a statement after the vote, calling the economic development fund critical to creating tens of thousands of new jobs.

“Thanks to the effective collaboration of legislative leadership in both parties, our state will be competitive for every dollar and every job for years to come,” Whitmer said.

by RQA 2021-12-15, 10:16

Trapper Gus wrote:

Whitmer praised the package in a statement after the vote, calling the economic development fund critical to creating tens of thousands of new jobs.

Too little, too late. Typical for the Whitmer administration. Did she wear a mask for her announcement or was she maskless like when she parties in DC?

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-15, 10:23

RQA wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Whitmer praised the package in a statement after the vote, calling the economic development fund critical to creating tens of thousands of new jobs.

Too little, too late. Typical for the Whitmer administration. Did she wear a mask for her announcement or was she maskless like when she parties in DC?

The too little, too late part is due to both sides of the isle.

Seems like after passing a huge tax cut for the rich in Michigan and a huge tax increase for the poor in Michigan the Republican legislature went to sleep on keep business in Michigan.

by RQA 2021-12-16, 08:15

Rivian now announcing a $5 billion dollar e-vehicle plant in Georgia. So just in the last few months we have Ford, Toyota, and now Rivian planning about $20 billion in automotive investments outside of Michigan.

Our board leftists? Keep up the great work Gov Whitmer!

Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing 1099637414

Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing 1099637414

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-12-16, 08:26

RQA wrote:Rivian now announcing a $5 billion dollar e-vehicle plant in Georgia. So just in the last few months we have Ford, Toyota, and now Rivian planning about $20 billion in automotive investments outside of Michigan.

Our board leftists? Keep up the great work Gov Whitmer!

As a board leftist I wasn't aware that all automotive manufacturing is supposed to take place in Michigan.

by **NigelUno** 2021-12-16, 08:26

RQA wrote:Rivian now announcing a $5 billion dollar e-vehicle plant in Georgia. So just in the last few months we have Ford, Toyota, and now Rivian planning about $20 billion in automotive investments outside of Michigan.

Our board leftists? Keep up the great work Gov Whitmer!

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

by **Trapper Gus** 2021-12-16, 08:56

NigelUno wrote:
RQA wrote:Rivian now announcing a $5 billion dollar e-vehicle plant in Georgia. So just in the last few months we have Ford, Toyota, and now Rivian planning about $20 billion in automotive investments outside of Michigan.

Our board leftists? Keep up the great work Gov Whitmer!

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

Final Assembly Plants are located all over the country, and all over the globe, so not sure what you are saying is correct.

Major Tier 1 Suppliers have their plants all over the globe, too.

by RQA 2021-12-16, 08:59

Motown Spartan wrote:

As a board leftist I wasn't aware that all automotive manufacturing is supposed to take place in Michigan.

At the rate Whitmer is going there won't be any automotive manufacturing in Michigan. She can't even keep the hometown teams here.

by RQA 2021-12-16, 09:03

NigelUno wrote:

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

Probably the same reason leftists favor buying cars built at non-union car plants. (documentation can be provided if requested)

I have a friend who grew up in Michigan but now lives in CO. She was involved in an on-line discussion about the Kellogg strike and made the comment "growing up in a union home, I sympathize with the workers". I replied: "don't you drive a Subaru?"

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2021-12-16, 09:16

love me some Big Gretch..

and the fact that she drives angry white guys insane makes me love her even more. Whitmer knocks it out of the park again. 2.5 billion, 1700 job battery facility in Lansing 969504605

by **NigelUno** 2021-12-16, 09:31

RQA wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

Probably the same reason leftists favor buying cars built at non-union car plants. (documentation can be provided if requested)

I have a friend who grew up in Michigan but now lives in CO. She was involved in an on-line discussion about the Kellogg strike and made the comment "growing up in a union home, I sympathize with the workers". I replied: "don't you drive a Subaru?"

Yes. I would like documentation of all car sales broken down by lefties and righties.

Thanks in advance.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-12-16, 09:39

RQA wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

(documentation can be provided if requested)

Why start now?

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-12-16, 11:43

Trapper Gus wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

Final Assembly Plants are located all over the country, and all over the globe, so not sure what you are saying is correct.

Major Tier 1 Suppliers have their plants all over the globe, too.

No they don't dammit!! They are all in Michigan and always have been and always should be!!!

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-12-16, 11:44

RQA wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

As a board leftist I wasn't aware that all automotive manufacturing is supposed to take place in Michigan.

At the rate Whitmer is going there won't be any automotive manufacturing in Michigan. She can't even keep the hometown teams here.

Are you just sexist or is it just Gretchen Derangement Syndrome which is 90% sexist and 10% the big D in front of her name?

by **NigelUno** 2021-12-16, 12:01

Trapper Gus wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Why do you think auto manufacturers like building cars in the South?

Final Assembly Plants are located all over the country, and all over the globe, so not sure what you are saying is correct.

Major Tier 1 Suppliers have their plants all over the globe, too.

*some

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