Re: Keon Coleman transfer Portal

by **tGreenWay** 2023-04-30, 16:38

AvgMSUJoe wrote:I got a text that said Coleman was going to enter because of Thorne and he may come back now because of Thorne leaving... FWIW.

That’s an interesting take. My first thought was that Coleman was leaving because Thorne was leaving and he didn’t want to stick around while the new guy learns on the job. It’ll be interesting to see how things play out.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-04-30, 16:48

DWags wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

Yes, Mel Tucker is the coach. Totally lost me last year with his inability to do anything consistently except pay for sub par coordinators.

Beyond that, there is tampering going on. And that’s fine. USC did it to Pitt last year. This is a whole different game being played. We all thought Tucker was going to be able to play that game the best because of Walker I think. Maybe he’s getting out maneuvered. Hall at needs to hire a GM. If we don’t, we’re screwed

Tampering is not fine, at least to me. Players have to reach the conclusion to enter the portal on their own; without another coach luring players with exaggerated incentives or telling them they cannot succeed in their current environment. Tampering strikes me as a very selfish act. I like the portal, but it is definitely chaotic.

by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 17:04

Nordic wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:Until MSU starts winning the better players will be targets for other teams.

If Colman is being promised starting role on a team with greater national exposure it makes sense.

Thorne could be seeing the writing on the wall and we don't know what he is being told by the coaches. Also his buddy Reed is gone, so less a connection.

In one sense this is a sign that MSU is recruiting players that other teams want.

If it is the money and MSU wants to keep them they can increase the money, if it is national exposure, winning championships or relationship issues not much can be done, though Trucker has pulled players he wanted back from the portal before.

One other thought is how much playing for MSU means in the NFL draft. If the players drafted were at lower draft levels than their talent suggested they should have been that could be part of it.

If I'm a betting man (and I am), I would bet this is the case. He wasn't named the starter going in or out of spring (maybe I missed it). I'm sure they had a frank convo after spring.

Because he's a QB with solid P5 experience, he'll end up at a P5. QB is cutthroat business and there are a bunch of schools that are not happy about their QB situation. Almost every team in the SEC is changing QBs. Alabama just brought in a new kid. Ole Miss has three former starting P5 QBs on their roster.

I don't think it is a sign that coaches were knocking down his door and we couldn't keep him. I think he is being gently pushed out and because he's a QB will find a cushy landing spot.

There are some big ten teams that might want him.

by **kingstonlake** 2023-04-30, 17:09

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:

Beyond that, there is tampering going on. And that’s fine. USC did it to Pitt last year. This is a whole different game being played. We all thought Tucker was going to be able to play that game the best because of Walker I think. Maybe he’s getting out maneuvered. Hall at needs to hire a GM. If we don’t, we’re screwed

Tampering is not fine, at least to me. Players have to reach the conclusion to enter the portal on their own; without another coach luring players with exaggerated incentives or telling them they cannot succeed in their current environment. Tampering strikes me as a very selfish act. I like the portal, but it is definitely chaotic.

3-9?

by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 17:19

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:

Beyond that, there is tampering going on. And that’s fine. USC did it to Pitt last year. This is a whole different game being played. We all thought Tucker was going to be able to play that game the best because of Walker I think. Maybe he’s getting out maneuvered. Hall at needs to hire a GM. If we don’t, we’re screwed

Tampering is not fine, at least to me. Players have to reach the conclusion to enter the portal on their own; without another coach luring players with exaggerated incentives or telling them they cannot succeed in their current environment. Tampering strikes me as a very selfish act. I like the portal, but it is definitely chaotic.

Are you sure it’s coaches and not a “family friend” that might be an agent. The NCAA blew this years ago with greed. This is the outcome. It’s the Wild West. We don’t have to like it. But it’s how it’s going to be.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-04-30, 17:59

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Tampering is not fine, at least to me. Players have to reach the conclusion to enter the portal on their own; without another coach luring players with exaggerated incentives or telling them they cannot succeed in their current environment. Tampering strikes me as a very selfish act. I like the portal, but it is definitely chaotic.

Are you sure it’s coaches and not a “family friend” that might be an agent. The NCAA blew this years ago with greed. This is the outcome. It’s the Wild West. We don’t have to like it. But it’s how it’s going to be.

After a while the complaining doesn't make any sense. Nobody walks away from it. We give this system our consent by being loyal consumers of all things CFB and CBB.

by **duffy munn** 2023-04-30, 18:09

So is QB1 next year Kim, Houser or portal guy?

by **duffy munn** 2023-04-30, 18:16

tGreenWay wrote: TOB must be losing its mind.

Blanch blames Izzo.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-04-30, 18:39

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote: TOB must be losing its mind.

Blanch blames Izzo.

lol

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-04-30, 18:42

duffy munn wrote:So is QB1 next year Kim, Houser or portal guy?

In Thorne's defense if he can land on a better offensive team or play against lower level competition he might have a better chance of being drafted.

edit - and he has a degree from MSU at this point so he has given MSU 4 years already.

by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 18:55

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:

Are you sure it’s coaches and not a “family friend” that might be an agent. The NCAA blew this years ago with greed. This is the outcome. It’s the Wild West. We don’t have to like it. But it’s how it’s going to be.

After a while the complaining doesn't make any sense. Nobody walks away from it. We give this system our consent by being loyal consumers of all things CFB and CBB.

I fully admit I’m a crack addict and I cant break my habit I might have a line where I say “enough”. Certainly today was not it.

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 19:01

duffy munn wrote:So is QB1 next year Kim, Houser or portal guy?

Kim.

Next question.

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 19:02

DWags wrote:
Nordic wrote:

If I'm a betting man (and I am), I would bet this is the case. He wasn't named the starter going in or out of spring (maybe I missed it). I'm sure they had a frank convo after spring.

Because he's a QB with solid P5 experience, he'll end up at a P5. QB is cutthroat business and there are a bunch of schools that are not happy about their QB situation. Almost every team in the SEC is changing QBs. Alabama just brought in a new kid. Ole Miss has three former starting P5 QBs on their roster.

I don't think it is a sign that coaches were knocking down his door and we couldn't keep him. I think he is being gently pushed out and because he's a QB will find a cushy landing spot.

There are some big ten teams that might want him.

Probably half the league

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 19:03

tGreenWay wrote:
Nordic wrote:

I want to look to watch the spectal. But for my own sanity, Imma gonna stay off that board for a while.

That makes the most sense. I might peek but only for a page or two. For my own mental health, I’ll limit it to that and no more.

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by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 19:04

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by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 19:08

Here are the transfer portal WR an available. Coleman only had a NIL value of 165k. Many have more. Mr Ishbia, let’s go shopping.

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 19:56

DWags wrote:Here are the transfer portal WR an available. Coleman only had a NIL value of 165k. Many have more. Mr Ishbia, let’s go shopping.

Besides Coleman and the kid from UTSA, everyone on that list has found a new home.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-04-30, 20:13

While I get the initial freak out, it's probably good to remember that with Thorne and Coleman we were 5-7.

So while I wish them both well, it's not like we just lost Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.

by **duffy munn** 2023-04-30, 20:24

Robert J Sakimano wrote:While I get the initial freak out, it's probably good to remember that with Thorne and Coleman we were 5-7.

So while I wish them both well, it's not like we just lost Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.

You don't sound worried Bob

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by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 20:34

Robert J Sakimano wrote:While I get the initial freak out, it's probably good to remember that with Thorne and Coleman we were 5-7.

So while I wish them both well, it's not like we just lost Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.

I think it is also import to remember they were not high school teammates.

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 20:40

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by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 20:42

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by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 20:44

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by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 20:44

Available including Coleman.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/?position=wr

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-04-30, 20:44

duffy munn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:While I get the initial freak out, it's probably good to remember that with Thorne and Coleman we were 5-7.

So while I wish them both well, it's not like we just lost Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.

You don't sound worried Bob

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While I want MSU to win all the things, regardless of whatever a group of 20-22 year olds decide to do with their lives, I'll still be chugging beers and taking shots on campus this fall, rockin' the Green and White.

I know you're there with me, Duff.

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 20:46

BTW. Love Noah's twitter sig

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by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-04-30, 20:47

DWags wrote:Available including Coleman.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/?position=wr

gotta tell ya, while I love the info on these guys, and I absolutely want them to get what they deserve, the fact that there is an "NIL value" attach to their profile is mind-boggling to an old dude like me

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 20:50

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:Available including Coleman.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/?position=wr
gotta tell ya, while I love the info on these guys, and I absolutely want them to get what they deserve, the fact that there is an "NIL value" attach to their profile is mind-boggling to an old dude like me

If we take back all your returnables, who can we afford?

by **InTenSity** 2023-04-30, 20:53

This is what I get for golfing on 20mph winds.
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by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-04-30, 20:55

Nordic wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: gotta tell ya, while I love the info on these guys, and I absolutely want them to get what they deserve, the fact that there is an "NIL value" attach to their profile is mind-boggling to an old dude like me

If we take back all your returnables, who can we afford?

A) I've tried to cut back a bit on the alcohol

B) what cans I did have, I took them back on Friday and grabbed a Starbucks Pike Place at the Lake Lansing Meijer with the dividends I procured

so...

C) over the course of Friday, Saturday and today, I could maybe finance a poor man's Agim Shabaj.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-04-30, 21:09

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote: TOB must be losing its mind.

Blanch blames Izzo.

Of course he does. And I blame momma blanch for serving him pancakes with lead paint chips in them.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-04-30, 21:22

Nordic wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

That makes the most sense. I might peek but only for a page or two. For my own mental health, I’ll limit it to that and no more.

I dipped my toe in the water.

I saw. I peeked at the first few posts in the Brantley thread. Can’t bring myself to read any more or any of the other threads. It’s best I just let it all pass on by.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-04-30, 21:27

DWags wrote:Available including Coleman.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/?position=wr

Let’s go to the portal and pick up that guy Coleman from Michigan State. I heard he’s got huge potential.

by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 22:14

tGreenWay wrote:
DWags wrote:Available including Coleman.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/?position=wr

Let’s go to the portal and pick up that guy Coleman from Michigan State. I heard he’s got huge potential.

We’ll just hold tight. Might be some good things happening g

by **tGreenWay** 2023-04-30, 23:13

DWags wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Let’s go to the portal and pick up that guy Coleman from Michigan State. I heard he’s got huge potential.

We’ll just hold tight. Might be some good things happening g

Hmmm… color me intrigued. Is a certain drivers’ training school tycoon about to pony up a big bag o’green?

by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 23:16

tGreenWay wrote:
DWags wrote:

We’ll just hold tight. Might be some good things happening g

Hmmm… color me intrigued. Is a certain drivers’ training school tycoon about to pony up a big bag o’green?

They don’t drive cars in Alabama. Everyone is barefoot.

by **DWags** 2023-04-30, 23:48

Hmmmmm sounds like maybe not too many team members are upset Keon might be leaving. If true, that’s interesting

Source Justin Thind on Spiro’s show. “Not too many players gravitated to those two as leaders”. Also, “group chats are galvanizing the team”.

by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 23:49

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DWags wrote:
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Players seem less worried than Bob

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by **Nordic** 2023-04-30, 23:53

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