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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-17, 10:15

Nobody else is stepping up. I hope this does not curse the season. Anyway...

Demetrice Martin comes home; joins Smith's defensive staff.

https://sports.yahoo.com/breaking-oregon-cornerbacks-coach-demetrice-211325558.html
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-17, 10:23

Feels good to have the new thread up and running.

Everytime Tugger announced a new assistant, I had to convince myself that it would be a good move. Every time Smith announces a new assistant, I have to convince myself to be cautious in my optimism. We are absolutely loading up.

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Post by gomersbro 2024-01-17, 11:10

Always like to see Spartans come home. While it is disappointing to lose someone like Harlon, who I think would have made a great analyst, we replaced it with another, younger, Spartan DB coach.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-17, 12:57

gomersbro wrote:Always like to see Spartans come home. While it is disappointing to lose someone like Harlon, who I think would have made a great analyst, we replaced it with another, younger, Spartan DB coach.

I'll always be grateful to Harlon for everything he has done for the program - as a player, as an assistant, and the miracles he worked holding the team together last season. Seeing him go, while completely understandable, broke my heart. If we have to lose him, though, this feels like a very, very good move.
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-17, 14:37

Punter U

Michigan State punter named Freshman All-American

Taylor also broke the NCAA record for punting yards in a season set by Michigan State’s Johnny Pingel in 1938.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-state-punter-named-freshman-all-american/ar-AA1n4KP8
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-01-17, 14:48

Turtleneck wrote:Punter U

Michigan State punter named Freshman All-American

Taylor also broke the NCAA record for punting yards in a season set by Michigan State’s Johnny Pingel in 1938.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-state-punter-named-freshman-all-american/ar-AA1n4KP8

That 1938 team was a bit of a disappointment on the heels of a spectacular '37 season and a trip to the Orange Bowl.
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-17, 14:51

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Punter U

Michigan State punter named Freshman All-American



https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-state-punter-named-freshman-all-american/ar-AA1n4KP8

That 1938 team was a bit of a disappointment on the heels of a spectacular '37 season and a trip to the Orange Bowl.

Don't get GreenWay started. He is always complaining about how that team ruined his first football season as a retiree.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-17, 15:09

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Punter U

Michigan State punter named Freshman All-American



https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-state-punter-named-freshman-all-american/ar-AA1n4KP8

That 1938 team was a bit of a disappointment on the heels of a spectacular '37 season and a trip to the Orange Bowl.

I often stay up late into the night, thinking about what might have been with the 38 team.
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Post by Zurn 2024-01-17, 15:23

Best to be cautious for 2024. IIRC, Smith was 6-6 last year. Let's be happy with something like that and not be expecting miracles out of the gate.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-17, 15:24

Zurn wrote:Best to be cautious for 2024. IIRC, Smith was 6-6 last year. Let's be happy with something like that and not be expecting miracles out of the gate.

Honestly? If he can get us to a bowl game - even a bad one - I'll be absolutely thrilled. Anything over 6-6 would just be a bonus.
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-17, 15:47

Zurn wrote:Best to be cautious for 2024. IIRC, Smith was 6-6 last year. Let's be happy with something like that and not be expecting miracles out of the gate.

Mabe I am misreading this, but OSU was 8-4 last year.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-01-17, 16:54

8 - 5 including the bowl game, which was not coached by Smith, so yes 8 - 4

Lost to Washington, Oregon, Arizona & Washington State.

Next year maybe MSU will beat lower level teams at least?
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-18, 11:00

Three Michigan State football assistants will make at least $1 million this year

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/01/three-michigan-state-football-assistants-will-make-at-least-1-million-this-year.html


MSU didn't get much for their money last time around...

That means the Spartans will have three assistant coaches making at least $1 million in 2024, which isn’t far off the previous staff. Former coach Mel Tucker had a trio of assistants who did so in 2023 after receiving extensions and raises following an 11-2 season in 2021. Offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Jay Johnson ($1.35 million), defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Scottie Hazelton ($1.1 million) and offensive line coach and run game coordinator Chris Kapilovic ($1 million) all brought in seven figures last season in base salary and none were retained after Tucker was fired in September and replaced by Smith.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-18, 11:11

Turtleneck wrote:Three Michigan State football assistants will make at least $1 million this year

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/01/three-michigan-state-football-assistants-will-make-at-least-1-million-this-year.html


MSU didn't get much for their money last time around...

That means the Spartans will have three assistant coaches making at least $1 million in 2024, which isn’t far off the previous staff. Former coach Mel Tucker had a trio of assistants who did so in 2023 after receiving extensions and raises following an 11-2 season in 2021. Offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Jay Johnson ($1.35 million), defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Scottie Hazelton ($1.1 million) and offensive line coach and run game coordinator Chris Kapilovic ($1 million) all brought in seven figures last season in base salary and none were retained after Tucker was fired in September and replaced by Smith.

Correct me if I;m wrong, but I thought the highest paid assistant under the last regime was pulling in $800k. And that Mel kept the bonus that was allocated for the assistants for himself.
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Post by NigelUno 2024-01-18, 11:49

CaptainSlow33 wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Three Michigan State football assistants will make at least $1 million this year

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/01/three-michigan-state-football-assistants-will-make-at-least-1-million-this-year.html


MSU didn't get much for their money last time around...


Correct me if I;m wrong, but I thought the highest paid assistant under the last regime was pulling in $800k. And that Mel kept the bonus that was allocated for the assistants for himself.

You're wrong (as you can see in the post you quoted).
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-01-18, 12:14

Trapper Gus wrote:8 - 5 including the bowl game, which was not coached by Smith, so yes 8 - 4

Lost to Washington, Oregon, Arizona & Washington State.

Next year maybe MSU will beat lower level teams at least?
yep, 8-4 with a loss to ND in the Sun Bowl (I believe) - without their head coach and quite a few players who opted out, hit the portal, etc.

not even sure why they played the game, but that's for another thread.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-18, 13:00

NigelUno wrote:
CaptainSlow33 wrote:

Correct me if I;m wrong, but I thought the highest paid assistant under the last regime was pulling in $800k. And that Mel kept the bonus that was allocated for the assistants for himself.

You're wrong (as you can see in the post you quoted).

Huh. Wild. Alright, nevermind then. I thought I remembered reading about Mel keeping bonuses earmarked for assistants at one point, but I must have either been hearing bullshit, or I dreamed it. Wouldn't be the first time for either.
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-18, 13:07

CaptainSlow33 wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You're wrong (as you can see in the post you quoted).

Huh. Wild. Alright, nevermind then. I thought I remembered reading about Mel keeping bonuses earmarked for assistants at one point, but I must have either been hearing bullshit, or I dreamed it. Wouldn't be the first time for either.

https://www.si.com/college/michiganstate/football/michigan-state-spartans-football-mel-tucker-receives-entire-bonus-intended-for-msu-staff-alan-haller-112322#:~:text=Tucker%27s%20contract%20extension%20with%20Michigan,away%20from%20Colorado%20in%202019.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-18, 13:09

Turtleneck wrote:
CaptainSlow33 wrote:

Huh. Wild. Alright, nevermind then. I thought I remembered reading about Mel keeping bonuses earmarked for assistants at one point, but I must have either been hearing bullshit, or I dreamed it. Wouldn't be the first time for either.

https://www.si.com/college/michiganstate/football/michigan-state-spartans-football-mel-tucker-receives-entire-bonus-intended-for-msu-staff-alan-haller-112322#:~:text=Tucker%27s%20contract%20extension%20with%20Michigan,away%20from%20Colorado%20in%202019.

There it is. That's what I was thinking of. Thanks for sharing/clarifying.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-01-18, 13:37

CaptainSlow33 wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:
CaptainSlow33 wrote:

Huh. Wild. Alright, nevermind then. I thought I remembered reading about Mel keeping bonuses earmarked for assistants at one point, but I must have either been hearing bullshit, or I dreamed it. Wouldn't be the first time for either.

https://www.si.com/college/michiganstate/football/michigan-state-spartans-football-mel-tucker-receives-entire-bonus-intended-for-msu-staff-alan-haller-112322#:~:text=Tucker%27s%20contract%20extension%20with%20Michigan,away%20from%20Colorado%20in%202019.

There it is. That's what I was thinking of. Thanks for sharing/clarifying.

Doesn't exactly incentivize your staff to "try harder", and at $9 million/year do you really need that extra 100k tugger?
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-18, 13:40

Heat Miser wrote:
CaptainSlow33 wrote:

There it is. That's what I was thinking of. Thanks for sharing/clarifying.

Doesn't exactly incentivize your staff to "try harder", and at $9 million/year do you really need that extra 100k tugger?

Especially after the season we were just coming off of when he did it. That dude was a chud and every day I'm grateful we unloaded that stupid contract.
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-01-18, 14:39

CaptainSlow33 wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Doesn't exactly incentivize your staff to "try harder", and at $9 million/year do you really need that extra 100k tugger?

Especially after the season we were just coming off of when he did it. That dude was a chud and every day I'm grateful we unloaded that stupid contract.



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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-18, 19:21

Is that a new player from the portal, GreenWay?
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-01-18, 19:54

Turtleneck wrote:Is that a new player from the portal, GreenWay?



You bet it is. With the success of the Lions, our new coach is taking a page from Dan Campbell’s playbook by recruiting guys who aren’t afraid to bite a few knees.
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-19, 11:36

Michigan State football's Jonathan Smith explains why QB Aidan Chiles is the right fit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-state-footballs-jonathan-smith-explains-why-qb-aidan-chiles-is-the-right-fit/ar-BB1gWruB
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-19, 13:45

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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-19, 13:51

Turtleneck wrote:[tw]1748415289815896263?s=20[/tw]

Very excited to see both of them on the d-line soon!
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-19, 14:00

[tw]1748414292536201502?s=20[/tw]

Paywalled but you get the idea.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-19, 14:21

Turtleneck wrote:[tw]1748414292536201502?s=20[/tw]

Paywalled but you get the idea.

Damn. Feels good to have a hard working staff again, and not an Instagram influencer cosplaying as a football coach.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-01-19, 14:30

CaptainSlow33 wrote:
Damn. Feels good to have a hard working staff again, and not an Instagram influencer cosplaying as a football coach.

I dunno... kids these days.
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-19, 15:09

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
CaptainSlow33 wrote:
Damn. Feels good to have a hard working staff again, and not an Instagram influencer cosplaying as a football coach.

I dunno... kids these days.

Are they selling those cars from the recruiting pics at the surplus store? What about the goats? Where can we buy one of the goats?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-01-19, 15:11

Turtleneck wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:

I dunno... kids these days.

Are they selling those cars from the recruiting pics at the surplus store? What about the goats? Where can we buy one of the goats?

no goats... but Fraggle Rock thermoses.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-19, 15:12

Turtleneck wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:

I dunno... kids these days.

Are they selling those cars from the recruiting pics at the surplus store? What about the goats? Where can we buy one of the goats?

Not at the Surplus Store, but I heard you can get a hell of a deal on them at Sundance.
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2024-01-19, 15:13

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Are they selling those cars from the recruiting pics at the surplus store? What about the goats? Where can we buy one of the goats?

no goats... but Fraggle Rock thermoses.
[tw]1748331824919527733[/tw]

OH THAT LUGNUTS MUG THO Shocked
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Post by Nordic 2024-01-19, 18:13

Turtleneck wrote:[tw]1748414292536201502?s=20[/tw]

Paywalled but you get the idea.

That dude still has eligibility?
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-22, 08:49

Amid turmoil, Michigan State’s Jonathan Smith retained key portal players

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/01/amid-turmoil-michigan-states-jonathan-smith-retained-key-portal-players.html
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-25, 09:22

Jonathan Smith gives detailed look of building new culture at Michigan State

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/01/jonathan-smith-gives-detailed-look-of-building-new-culture-at-michigan-state.html
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-28, 11:01

New Year, New Offensive Line For Michigan State

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/new-year-new-offensive-line-for-michigan-state/ar-BB1hmdjw
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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-29, 16:32

Coming to a schedule release near you.

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Post by Turtleneck 2024-01-31, 21:03

Spring showcase schedule for April. Bob will be covering it live with player and coach interviews.

https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-football-spring-game-date-april-20-226455868/amp/
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