The far left progressives have to be isolated and eliminated.

Yeah I said it. Here is my Monday morning quarterbacking.

We should not have pandered one iota to these ass hats. Fuck every last one of them.

Leave the party, take your pronouns with you. Stop calling yourself democrats and take blame for giving us a fascist president.


Representative Torres.

Donald Trump has no greater friend than the far left, which has managed to alienate historic numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Asians, and Jews from the Democratic Party with absurdities like “Defund the Police” or “From the River to the Sea” or “Latinx.”

There is more to lose than there is to gain politically from pandering to a far left that is more representative of Twitter, Twitch, and TikTok than it is of the real world. The working class is not buying the ivory-towered nonsense that the far left is selling.



I get your passion. Create your own party.

DWags wrote:Yeah I said it. Here is my Monday morning quarterbacking.

We should not have pandered one iota to these ass hats. Fuck every last one of them.

Leave the party, take your pronouns with you. Stop calling yourself democrats and take blame for giving us a fascist president.


Representative Torres.

Donald Trump has no greater friend than the far left, which has managed to alienate historic numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Asians, and Jews from the Democratic Party with absurdities like “Defund the Police” or “From the River to the Sea” or “Latinx.”

There is more to lose than there is to gain politically from pandering to a far left that is more representative of Twitter, Twitch, and TikTok than it is of the real world. The working class is not buying the ivory-towered nonsense that the far left is selling.



I get your passion. Create your own party.

You are my new hero, DWags!

How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

Heat Miser wrote:How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

You want a laundry list?
1. Palestine
2. Tim Walz (a Bernie demand)
3. Border
4. Boys in girls sports
5. Trans bathrooms.
Should I go on?

Heat Miser wrote:How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

Pandered?  Nah. We need to fucking ignore those ass hats.  


Think of America as a high school football field.  In late October what does the field look like?  It’s worn out from the 25 to the 25.   THATS where most of America is.   The far right and far left is played on, but it’s not where most of America is. You use the middle of the field to get to the far right or left.  

When we don’t  focus on the middle of the field, we can’t get to the end zones.


Those dumb asses have us looking way down field. They want us to throw a bomb and score points. Instead, we need to gain momentum in the middle of the field, gather ourselves,  and push into the part of the field that isn’t played on regularly. Then we get to their goals. They There isn’t a short cut.  


One step at a time. Or alternatively, they can transfer out form their own team and do whatever the fuck they want.

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

You want a laundry list?
1. Palestine
2. Tim Walz (a Bernie demand)
3. Border
4. Boys in girls sports
5. Trans bathrooms.
Should I go on?

Where's the "pandering"?
1. Dems were about as pro-Israel as you can get.
2. Gun owner/football coach. Real leftiist.
3. Tacked right during the campaign.
4. Nobody gives a shit. It's a weird wingnut fixation.
5. Nobody gives a shit. It's a weird wingnut fixation.

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
You want a laundry list?
1. Palestine
2. Tim Walz (a Bernie demand)
3. Border
4. Boys in girls sports
5. Trans bathrooms.
Should I go on?

Where's the "pandering"?
1. Dems were about as pro-Israel as you can get.
2. Gun owner/football coach. Real leftiist.
3. Tacked right during the campaign.
4. Nobody gives a shit. It's a weird wingnut fixation.
5. Nobody gives a shit. It's a weird wingnut fixation.

Spoken like Bernie himself.

Dead wrong. Very stupid take. Painfully dumb.

DWags wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

Pandered?  Nah. We need to fucking ignore those ass hats.  


Think of America as a high school football field.  In late October what does the field look like?  It’s worn out fro the 25 to the 25.   THATS where most of America is.   The far right and far left is played on, but it’s not where most of America is.  

When we don’t  focus on the middle of the field, we can’t get to the end zones. B


Those dumb asses have us looking way don field. They want us to throw a bomb and score points instead, we need to gain momentum in the middle of the field, gather ourselves,  and push into the part of the field that isn’t played on regularly.  There isn’t a short cut.  


One step at a time. Our alternatively, they can transfer out form their own team and do whatever the fuck they want.

Who do you think you're going to replace them with? The Liz Cheney crowd? Running as Republican lite didn't work too well.

This is typical Dem cannibalism. Which is why they lose.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Dead wrong. Very stupid take. Painfully dumb.

Like most Monday quarterbacks I think I’m right.

DWags wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

Pandered?  Nah. We need to fucking ignore those ass hats.  


Think of America as a high school football field.  In late October what does the field look like?  It’s worn out from the 25 to the 25.   THATS where most of America is.   The far right and far left is played on, but it’s not where most of America is. You use the middle of the field to get to the far right or left.  

When we don’t  focus on the middle of the field, we can’t get to the end zones.


Those dumb asses have us looking way down field. They want us to throw a bomb and score points. Instead, we need to gain momentum in the middle of the field, gather ourselves,  and push into the part of the field that isn’t played on regularly. Then we get to their goals. They There isn’t a short cut.  


One step at a time. Or alternatively, they can transfer out form their own team and do whatever the fuck they want.

We need a transfer portal for the Democratic Party, DWags!

PennSpartan wrote:

DWags wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:How exactly was the "far left" pandered to? The entire campaign was Republican lite. The "far left" was basically told to fuck off. Again.

The far right however, is slowly dragging everyone toward them.

Torres is a fucking idiot BTW.

Pandered?  Nah. We need to fucking ignore those ass hats.  


Think of America as a high school football field.  In late October what does the field look like?  It’s worn out from the 25 to the 25.   THATS where most of America is.   The far right and far left is played on, but it’s not where most of America is. You use the middle of the field to get to the far right or left.  

When we don’t  focus on the middle of the field, we can’t get to the end zones.


Those dumb asses have us looking way down field. They want us to throw a bomb and score points. Instead, we need to gain momentum in the middle of the field, gather ourselves,  and push into the part of the field that isn’t played on regularly. Then we get to their goals. They There isn’t a short cut.  


One step at a time. Or alternatively, they can transfer out form their own team and do whatever the fuck they want.

We need a transfer portal for the Democratic Party, DWags!

Whom do you think will be transferring in?

Heat Miser wrote:

DWags wrote:


Pandered?  Nah. We need to fucking ignore those ass hats.  


Think of America as a high school football field.  In late October what does the field look like?  It’s worn out fro the 25 to the 25.   THATS where most of America is.   The far right and far left is played on, but it’s not where most of America is.  

When we don’t  focus on the middle of the field, we can’t get to the end zones. B


Those dumb asses have us looking way don field. They want us to throw a bomb and score points instead, we need to gain momentum in the middle of the field, gather ourselves,  and push into the part of the field that isn’t played on regularly.  There isn’t a short cut.  


One step at a time. Our alternatively, they can transfer out form their own team and do whatever the fuck they want.

Who do you think you're going to replace them with? The Liz Cheney crowd? Running as Republican lite didn't work too well.

This is typical Dem cannibalism. Which is why they lose.

I think we can replace them with the voters who didn’t vote for Trump but voted against she/her from the river to the sea and defund the police.

Now tell me those people didn’t exist. Cause man I think they did in the millions.

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:

We need a transfer portal for the Democratic Party, DWags!

Whom do you think will be transferring in?

People who aren’t Socialists.

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:

We need a transfer portal for the Democratic Party, DWags!

Whom do you think will be transferring in?

Voters who voted against What I said and not for Trump.

DWags wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Dead wrong. Very stupid take. Painfully dumb.

Like most Monday quarterbacks I think I’m right.

I am hear to tell you unequivocally that you are not.

DWags wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

DWags wrote:


Pandered?  Nah. We need to fucking ignore those ass hats.  


Think of America as a high school football field.  In late October what does the field look like?  It’s worn out fro the 25 to the 25.   THATS where most of America is.   The far right and far left is played on, but it’s not where most of America is.  

When we don’t  focus on the middle of the field, we can’t get to the end zones. B


Those dumb asses have us looking way don field. They want us to throw a bomb and score points instead, we need to gain momentum in the middle of the field, gather ourselves,  and push into the part of the field that isn’t played on regularly.  There isn’t a short cut.  


One step at a time. Our alternatively, they can transfer out form their own team and do whatever the fuck they want.

Who do you think you're going to replace them with? The Liz Cheney crowd? Running as Republican lite didn't work too well.

This is typical Dem cannibalism. Which is why they lose.

I think we can replace them with the voters who didn’t vote for Trump but voted against she/her from the river to the sea and defund the police.

Now tell me those people didn’t exist. Cause man I think they did in the millions.

Good luck with that. This is what Dems do. They always want to tack right when things go wrong. People don't vote Republican lite when they can just vote Republican.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

DWags wrote:


Like most Monday quarterbacks I think I’m right.

I am hear to tell you unequivocally that you are not.

here

Heat Miser wrote:

DWags wrote:


I think we can replace them with the voters who didn’t vote for Trump but voted against she/her from the river to the sea and defund the police.

Now tell me those people didn’t exist. Cause man I think they did in the millions.

Good luck with that. This is what Dems do. They always want to tack right when things go wrong. People don't vote Republican lite when they can just vote Republican.

Please remind us of a progressive success story in Presidential elections.

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

DWags wrote:


I think we can replace them with the voters who didn’t vote for Trump but voted against she/her from the river to the sea and defund the police.

Now tell me those people didn’t exist. Cause man I think they did in the millions.

Good luck with that. This is what Dems do. They always want to tack right when things go wrong. People don't vote Republican lite when they can just vote Republican.

Please remind us of a progressive success story in Presidential elections.

Obama is as close as it gets. But the Dems have never had the balls to really try. They cower and tack right whenever Republicans scream "SOCIALISTS!!!!"

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Please remind us of a progressive success story in Presidential elections.

Obama is as close as it gets. But the Dems have never had the balls to really try. They cower and tack right whenever Republicans scream "SOCIALISTS!!!!"

Obama is a progressive now? You guys have been trashing him for years. Biden was his VP.

Heat Miser wrote:

DWags wrote:


I think we can replace them with the voters who didn’t vote for Trump but voted against she/her from the river to the sea and defund the police.

Now tell me those people didn’t exist.  Cause man I think they did in the millions.

Good luck with that. This is what Dems do. They always want to tack right when things go wrong. People don't vote Republican lite when they can just vote Republican.

Tack right? How about shaking the shit off of our Left leg?


It’s not about tacking, right, it’s about gathering the people up in the middle and ignoring the screaming little bitches on the left side.

Once we get a foothold and gather those people that voted not for Trump, but against the far left, we can then start passing legislation at the far left, agrees with


Until we do that, we are a dead party. The Republicans have figured out a way to get us to vote against the crazy motherfuckers on the left

I blame them totally for this loss They need to get out of our party

We’re allowed to do some Monday morning quarterback, right??

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Please remind us of a progressive success story in Presidential elections.

Obama is as close as it gets. But the Dems have never had the balls to really try. They cower and tack right whenever Republicans scream "SOCIALISTS!!!!"

Obama is a progressive now? You guys have been trashing him for years. Biden was his VP.

That's the point genius. I said as close as it gets.

Wags, veering towards the Cheney neo con clan? How’d that work? How many votes it pick up ? Biden got 81 million on 2020. Harris won’t crack 70 million. Cheney is a spit in the face at your daughters.

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Obama is a progressive now? You guys have been trashing him for years. Biden was his VP.

That's the point genius. I said as close as it gets.

So you have no success record. But want to go all in. I said somewhere else here I’m willing to let AOC or an equivalent to be the nominee next time. I think she would get slaughtered. Will you then agree to GTFO?

kingstonlake wrote:Wags, veering towards the Cheney neo con clan? How’d that work? How many votes it pick up ? Biden got 81 million on 2020. Harris won’t crack 70 million. Cheney is a spit in the face at your daughters.

Tell me, how far left is Biden?

DWags wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

Good luck with that. This is what Dems do. They always want to tack right when things go wrong. People don't vote Republican lite when they can just vote Republican.

Tack right? How about shaking the shit off of our Left leg?


It’s not about tacking, right, it’s about gathering the people up in the middle and ignoring the screaming little bitches on the left side.

Once we get a foothold and gather those people that voted not for Trump, but against the far left, we can then start passing legislation at the far left, agrees with


Until we do that, we are a dead party. The Republicans have figured out a way to get us to vote against the crazy motherfuckers on the left

I blame them totally for this loss They need to get out of our party

We’re allowed to do some Monday morning quarterback, right??

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

That's the point genius. I said as close as it gets.

So you have no success record. But want to go all in. I said somewhere else here I’m willing to let AOC or an equivalent to be the nominee next time. I think she would get slaughtered. Will you then agree to GTFO?

GTFO? You’re the one pining to caress Dick Cheney nuts. Just run over to the GOP. It’s where you belong anyway.

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Obama is a progressive now? You guys have been trashing him for years. Biden was his VP.

That's the point genius. I said as close as it gets.

So you have no success record. But want to go all in. I said somewhere else here I’m willing to let AOC or an equivalent to be the nominee next time. I think she would get slaughtered. Will you then agree to GTFO?

Yes, I want to go all in on a real progressive agenda. People want healthcare. People want paid leave. People want higher wages. People want abortion rights. Etc. Etc. Etc. This shit is objectively popular across the board. Even in red states. But Dems don't have the balls to run on it with any real conviction. They back down and tack right whenever Republicans say boo. They're pussies.

DWags wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Wags, veering towards the Cheney neo con clan? How’d that work? How many votes it pick up ? Biden got 81 million on 2020. Harris won’t crack 70 million. Cheney is a spit in the face at your daughters.

Tell me, how far left is Biden?

How much less is 69 million than 81 million ?

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
So you have no success record. But want to go all in. I said somewhere else here I’m willing to let AOC or an equivalent to be the nominee next time. I think she would get slaughtered. Will you then agree to GTFO?

Yes, I want to go all in on a real progressive agenda. People want healthcare. People want paid leave. People want higher wages. People want abortion rights. Etc. Etc. Etc. This shit is objectively popular across the board. Even in red states. But Dems don't have the balls to run on it with any real conviction. They back down and tack right whenever Republicans say boo. They're pussies.

No way. States like Kansas would defeat an abortion rights law so fas…….

kingstonlake wrote:

DWags wrote:



Tell me, how far left is Biden?

How much less is 69 million than 81 million ?

My daughters count two. Is Biden for or against their rights as women?

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
So you have no success record. But want to go all in. I said somewhere else here I’m willing to let AOC or an equivalent to be the nominee next time. I think she would get slaughtered. Will you then agree to GTFO?

Yes, I want to go all in on a real progressive agenda. People want healthcare. People want paid leave. People want higher wages. People want abortion rights. Etc. Etc. Etc. This shit is objectively popular across the board. Even in red states. But Dems don't have the balls to run on it with any real conviction. They back down and tack right whenever Republicans say boo. They're pussies.

Answer this: Why does Bernie never win the nomination if everyone wants this stuff? Or Warren, etc.

We just lost by going after the center

Dwags- “I have a brilliant idea, let’s go after the center HARDER”

You don’t know what you’re talking about dude. You’re mad. You’re lashing out. It’s fine.

DWags wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Wags, veering towards the Cheney neo con clan? How’d that work? How many votes it pick up ? Biden got 81 million on 2020. Harris won’t crack 70 million. Cheney is a spit in the face at your daughters.

Tell me, how far left is Biden?

This is Joe Biden's fault, stop sucking his dick.

(Borrowed)

DNC Mission Statement #1: Stop leftists with every available resource.

DNC Mission Statement #2: Stop conservatives with whatever's leftover.

DNC Mission Statement #3: Blame leftists for the loss.

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

Yes, I want to go all in on a real progressive agenda. People want healthcare. People want paid leave. People want higher wages. People want abortion rights. Etc. Etc. Etc. This shit is objectively popular across the board. Even in red states. But Dems don't have the balls to run on it with any real conviction. They back down and tack right whenever Republicans say boo. They're pussies.

Answer this:  Why does Bernie never win the nomination if everyone wants this stuff?  Or Warren, etc.

Do you want an honest answer or do you want to keep plugging your ears to reality and just say “boo hoo I don’t like progressives”

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

Yes, I want to go all in on a real progressive agenda. People want healthcare. People want paid leave. People want higher wages. People want abortion rights. Etc. Etc. Etc. This shit is objectively popular across the board. Even in red states. But Dems don't have the balls to run on it with any real conviction. They back down and tack right whenever Republicans say boo. They're pussies.

Answer this: Why does Bernie never win the nomination if everyone wants this stuff? Or Warren, etc.

Because of boomers like you who are more conservative than a lot of Trump voters.

PennSpartan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
So you have no success record. But want to go all in. I said somewhere else here I’m willing to let AOC or an equivalent to be the nominee next time. I think she would get slaughtered. Will you then agree to GTFO?

Yes, I want to go all in on a real progressive agenda. People want healthcare. People want paid leave. People want higher wages. People want abortion rights. Etc. Etc. Etc. This shit is objectively popular across the board. Even in red states. But Dems don't have the balls to run on it with any real conviction. They back down and tack right whenever Republicans say boo. They're pussies.

Answer this: Why does Bernie never win the nomination if everyone wants this stuff? Or Warren, etc.

The Dems actively torpedoed Bernie in favor of Hilary (remember the "super delegates"?). Look what that genius move got them.

kingstonlake wrote:(Borrowed)

DNC Mission Statement #1: Stop leftists with every available resource.

DNC Mission Statement #2: Stop conservatives with whatever's leftover.

DNC Mission Statement #3: Blame leftists for the loss.

The people here yelling about progressives have been blaming progressives for their centrist candidates losing since at least April. In this case it doesn’t make even a little bit of sense, but gotta go for it anyway