Re: The 2015/16 Detroit Lions thread

[The Pantry]

Lions shitting the bed in London this morning. KC up 24-3 with over 3 minutes to go in the 1st half

[The_Dude]

Just woke up hungover and see the Lions are already down 3 TDs. LOLions

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Caldwell is gonna get the Lane Kiffen treatment and be left at Heathrow airport.

[CORNER BLITZ]

Why did the NFL send the Lions to London if they are trying to attract fans over there?

[The_Dude]

Why did the NFL send the Lions to London if they are trying to attract fans over there?

I mean, the Bills and Jags play over there.

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Why did the NFL send the Lions to London if they are trying to attract fans over there?

I mean, the Bills and Jags play over there.

Goodell is showing London their choices of franchises to move there.

[CORNER BLITZ]

Can they trade Megatron...already ruined Barry and well past ruining Calvin as well. He's got some years left, let him go

[The_Dude]

Can they trade Megatron...already ruined Barry and well past ruining Calvin as well. He's got some years left, let him go

Megatron had trade value a few years ago but not so much anymore. When RBs or WRs start to decline they go down in a hurry. CJ had s couple more decent years left that's it. I don't see anyone taking on his massive contract.

[The Pantry]

Nice to see Stafford roll out of the pocket...only way he's gonna survive the rest of this season.

[Guest]

They ought to trade anyone on the team for anything they can get with the possible exception of Ziggy. Everyone else is replaceable with a street free agent.

[InTenSity]

The weirdest part about this game is how much focus is on the crowd. It wouldn't surprise me if the NFL handed out jerseys to people.

[CORNER BLITZ]

Detroit Lions – Five reasons Matthew Stafford will improve this season 

Stafford is a gunslinger, we all know it. Last year Lombardi seemed hesitant to give Stafford the freedom to go deep down field. Lombardi said in the spring — and he’s been consistent with this — that the goal is give Stafford the green light more often. If the running game is improved (as it should be) this will help the effort.

Lol

[GRR Spartan]

After today's wretched performance there is no reason to retain Martin Mayhew and the only reason to keep Caldwell through the end of the season is he's gonna to get paid anyway.

With Caldwell it's like a kid being toilet trained.  Let him sit in the shitty mess he helped create.

[Guest]

it's like a kid being toilet trained. Let him sit n the shitty mess he helped create.

You're a cold hearted son of a bitch.

[Floyd Robertson]

Lions shitting the bed in London this morning. KC up 24-3 with over 3 minutes to go in the 1st half

Didn't see any of it but heard one of the worst rushing teams in the league went off for 200+ with their starting RB on the sidelines.

Vaguely reminiscent of the game against the Chiefs (1990?) when little-known Barry Word put up 200 while Christian Okoye was sidelined. The more things change the more they remain the same. Russ Thomas, Matt Millen, Mayhwew, it don't matter.

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Lions shitting the bed in London this morning.  KC up 24-3 with over 3 minutes to go in the 1st half

Didn't see any of it but heard one of the worst rushing teams in the league went off for 200+ with their starting RB on the sidelines.

Vaguely reminiscent of the game against the Chiefs (1990?) when little-known Barry Word put up 200 while Christian Okoye was sidelined. The more things change the more they remain the same. Russ Thomas, Matt Millen, Mayhwew, it don't matter.

Kansas City's rushing offense is decent. Jamaal Charles, the guy that is out for the season was one of the best RB's in the league. His backup is serviceable.

[GRR Spartan]

I forgot when the Lion's game started and when I tuned in and saw the 27-3 score I thought it was a final.  It was at the half.

I may be in the minority about hoping Willian Clay Ford's widow cleans house as opposed to those who think selling the team is the only solution.  If you like Detroit and like Detroit having an NFL franchise don't think the next owner moving the team is impossible.

[Guest]

Column: The fall of Lions GM Martin Mayhew and others feels inevitable

LONDON — I wonder what Martin Mayhew is thinking right now.

The Lions general manager met with a couple reporters and the team's website on Friday morning in a little alcove at The Grove, a luxury resort that served as Detroit's European training base last week.

There was coffee and tea. There was a fruit plate. It was pleasant.

But Mayhew walked into the room with a purpose: To convince everyone that Detroit could still win this season. But there really is no convincing to be done, is there? Does anyone really believe Mayhew? That the Lions could make the playoffs? When no other team, ever, has been able to do it after a start as bad as this?

Mayhew should know this as well as anyone. He built this mess, after all.

[Guest]

Wojo: Only a matter of time for Mayhew, Caldwell

It got worse, much worse. It almost always gets worse.

The Lions are a punch line and a punching bag again, and the next move has to be the big one. Jim Caldwell and Martin Mayhew should not survive this disaster, with the Lions 1-7 after soiling a football field on another continent, losing to the Chiefs, 45-10, Sunday in London.

If you fire one, you have to fire the other, so the only issue should be the timing. Caldwell could be dismissed immediately, with the Lions heading into a bye, and replaced by defensive coordinator Teryl Austin. I’d do the complete front-office purge at the end of the season, because right now you have no idea who would lead the search for a new regime. Any firing makes a strong case for accountability, but it has to be part of a real plan.

That’s where we enter the great unknown. Martha Ford, who made the trip to London, is in charge and presumably angry, although she rarely talks to the media. Just canning another coach isn’t the entire answer. Nothing truly changes until something substantive changes at the top. It’s a tired lament, I know, and there’s no sign Ford, 90, is interested in selling the team she’s controlled since her husband’s passing 20 months ago.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Lions to do list

1. Fire Tom Lewand, Martin Mayhew, Jim Caldwell, the entire front office and coaching staffs.
2. Hire somebody like Kevin Colbert (Steelers GM) to be Team President.
3. Have him hire a GM and coach. The GM should be hired quickly and then the President and GM can find a coach.
4. Cut Stafford. His cap number is obscene and that makes him untradeable and he is not worth it.
5. Redo Megatron's deal - his cap number sucks but he can still contribute.
6. Don't take a quarterback in the first round - take linemen. You're gonna suck so build for the future.
7. Do not bother re-signing your own free agents - trust me they suck.

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Lions to do list

1. Fire Tom Lewand, Martin Mayhew, Jim Caldwell, the entire front office and coaching staffs.
2. Hire somebody like Kevin Colbert (Steelers GM) to be Team President.
3. Have him hire a GM and coach. The GM should be hired quickly and then the President and GM can find a coach.
4. Cut Stafford. His cap number is obscene and that makes him untradeable and he is not worth it.
5. Redo Megatron's deal - his cap number sucks but he can still contribute.
6. Don't take a quarterback in the first round - take linemen. You're gonna suck so build for the future.
7. Do not bother re-signing your own free agents - trust me they suck.

Can't argue with much here.

[Guest]

Dave Birkett ‏@davebirkett 18m18 minutes ago
Mrs. Ford addressed the Lions team meeting today, encouraged players to stay together. New GM Sheldon White also spoke to the team

[SpartanInNH]

2. Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford

So far: one win (eight games)

On pace: two wins

Comment: Wins and losses really aren't a quarterback statistic, and Stafford is hardly the only person to blame for the Lions' 1-7 record. But that start has put Stafford on pace to finish the season in rare and inglorious company. If the Lions finish 2-14, their overall record in games he has started would be 37-56. At that point, there would be only one player in NFL history -- Archie Manning -- who had made as many as 93 starts and won 37 or fewer of them. The bumbling Lions of the Stafford Era would be second only to Manning's 'Aints. Ouch.

These guys are on pace for best and worst seasons

[Guest]

Rogers could grill a steak back there with the time he's got.

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Lions not getting blown out. So that's kinda cool.

[Death Roe]

Tied up

[Guest]

LOL 104 yard kick return for no TD about to be wasted.

[Floyd Robertson]

Every Lions fan over the age of 50, errr 5, could see the collapse coming. Everything was aligned perfectly.

[SpartanInNH]

[Dr. Strangelove]

Nice hire for team president. I would expect them to now keep sheldon, keep caldwell and keep losing.


http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20151119/NEWS/151119782/detroit-lions-name-rod-wood-president

[InTenSity]

Did they hire David Bowie?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Did they hire David Bowie?

[GRR Spartan]

The lack of responses shows how far the Lions have fallen into irrelevance among this board's users.

Naming this guy just tells me Sheila Hamp and her mother don't and haven't trusted Lewan's numbers.  Naming Ron Wood was a surprise but he's a trusted Ford money guy. As of September '15, Forbes listed the Detroit Lions value at $900M,28th of the 32 NFL teams and the only NFL team to lose money ($3.2M) in '14.   Not beyond the realm of possibility the 3 Ford daughters of Martha Ford might want to cash out of the NFL and sell while franchises are are still a hot property so they appoint Wood as team president to get the team's financial house in order and ascertain a selling price.


I heard Ron Wood and thought of the Rolling Stones.  

[Guest]

The lack of responses shows how far the Lions have fallen into irrelevance among this board's users.

Naming this guy just tells me Sheila Hamp and her mother don't and haven't trusted Lewan's numbers.  Naming Ron Wood was a surprise but he's a trusted Ford money guy. As of September '15, Forbes listed the Detroit Lions value at $900M,28th of the 32 NFL teams and the only NFL team to lose money ($3.2M) in '14.   Not beyond the realm of possibility the 3 Ford daughters of Martha Ford might want to cash out of the NFL and sell while franchises are are still a hot property so they appoint Wood as team president to get the team's financial house in order and ascertain a selling price.


I heard Ron Wood and thought of the Rolling Stones drummer.  

LOL. Rod. RS Guitarist. But otherwise great post.

[Floyd Robertson]

What a bunch of pussies

Detroit Lions radio broadcasts get new home, 97.1 says it refused to be censored

Oh wait, this is the same team that canned Mark "oh, boy" Champion.

[Guest]

What a bunch of pussies

Detroit Lions radio broadcasts get new home, 97.1 says it refused to be censored

Oh wait, this is the same team that canned Mark "oh, boy" Champion.

Supposedly Valenti is going to unload on this at 2pm. I've never heard his show but may try to find it just for this.

[Dr. Strangelove]

What a bunch of pussies

Detroit Lions radio broadcasts get new home, 97.1 says it refused to be censored

Oh wait, this is the same team that canned Mark "oh, boy" Champion.

Sounds like sour grapes for not securing the renewal.

It's the same shit when a team trashes a player on the way out the door.

[Floyd Robertson]

What a bunch of pussies

Detroit Lions radio broadcasts get new home, 97.1 says it refused to be censored

Oh wait, this is the same team that canned Mark "oh, boy" Champion.

Sounds like sour grapes for not securing the renewal.

It's the same shit when a team trashes a player on the way out the door.

If the Lions didn't have a history of silencing their on-air critics I might agree.

[GRR Spartan]

Got to believe every talking head in Detroit will be covering this like its Ford Motor shutting down. But they have zero skin in the game.

At the end of the day I think a lot of what's going on now has to do with Bill Ford Jr strong support of hiring Alan Mulally to be Ford Motor president and in his first year Mulally got rid of a number of Ford VP's. One of which was 27 year Ford Veteran Steven Hamp, Sheila Ford Hamp's husband. Its being reported Shelia has her mother's ear.

Several other reports say once Bill Jr learned the Lions would become the property of all 4 of Wm Clay and Martha's children when she passes he walked and is helping run Ford Motor.

Will not surprise me if the Ford siblings have their financial guy in place to get the franchise's house in order and they sell within 36 months of Martha's death. The 3 sisters might give Bill Jr the chance to buy them out otherwise they'll all be splitting about $1B or more.

[WhiteBoyHatcher]

Wow. Listening to him online for a few min because I was curious. What a joke of an organization.

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