Survivor

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How the fuck is this show still on the air?

There are very few network show that I detest, and they all fall in the faux scripted reality genre. Survivor, Batchelor/ette etc are all a pox on society and I weep for this country that they are so popular.

My wife's favorite show is Amazing Race. Survivor is a close second. She actually asked me if I wanted to try out for AR. I declined, but said I'd be happy to go all the places they go and do all the things they do, but without the stress of a competition. The only stress I'm willing to deal with when I'm traveling is if my luggage shows up late.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How the fuck is this show still on the air?

There are very few network show that I detest, and they all fall in the faux scripted reality genre. Survivor, Batchelor/ette etc are all a pox on society and I weep for this country that they are so popular.

I don't think Survivor is scripted. I've watched a bit of is the Amazing Race but I've never made it through a full season.

Is Jim Rice in this newest reboot? I would think I would have heard about it if he was.

Also is Whitney Duncan in it?

If the answer to either is yes, I might watch.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How the fuck is this show still on the air?

There are very few network show that I detest, and they all fall in the faux scripted reality genre. Survivor, Batchelor/ette etc are all a pox on society and I weep for this country that they are so popular.

I'll be watching. I draw the line at Bachelorette though.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Is Jim Rice in this newest reboot? I would think I would have heard about it if he was.

Also is Whitney Duncan in it?

If the answer to either is yes, I might watch.

There is some eye candy there.....

Season 34 Cast

I gotta go Tai Trang. MFer looks HARD!

(I've never watched)

CheesySpartan wrote:I gotta go Tai Trang. MFer looks HARD!

(I've never watched)

He's a tough little shit. Was on a couple seasons ago and went pretty far.

No coach or Russell is a semi fail

LooseGoose wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

There are very few network show that I detest, and they all fall in the faux scripted reality genre. Survivor, Batchelor/ette etc are all a pox on society and I weep for this country that they are so popular.

I don't think Survivor is scripted.   I've watched a bit of is the Amazing Race but I've never made it through a full season.

What gives me pause on Survivor, as opposed to big brother, is the cameras. Two people go for a walk to talk strategy and a camera follows them..what do the other people in the tribe think about that?

Of course there's down time off-camera on BB too, but there's so much more of it on survivor

Tim Wakefield wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

I don't think Survivor is scripted.   I've watched a bit of is the Amazing Race but I've never made it through a full season.

What gives me pause on Survivor, as opposed to big brother, is the cameras. Two people go for a walk to talk strategy and a camera follows them..what do the other people in the tribe think about that?

Of course there's down time off-camera on BB too, but there's so much more of it on survivor

If there weren't cameras, and two people went off to talk among themselves, people would still notice. I think there are several camera guys, as well as producers, around the camp all the time, and they're always following people whether they go get water, take a shit, etc. I'm sure there are things that they re-shoot, or encourage people to discuss, but the competitions look pretty legit.

It's not 100% must watch for me, but my wife and daughter usually watch it, and I don't mind watching if I'm not doing anything else. I like the competitions. I always loved the obstacle course on Battle of the Network Stars when I was a kid, too. I like Amazing Race better, however, because it's faster paced, and more of a pure competition, in that if you suck at the competitions, your social game isn't going to keep you racing.

2nd hour was better than the 1st. Overall not the greatest start but not horrible either.

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Thank you for watching Survivor LIVE last night -- we were the "most watched show of the night" thanks to you. Not bad after 17 years!

LooseGoose wrote:2nd hour was better than the 1st. Overall not the greatest start but not horrible either.

I hate Sandra so much

Okay, I admit it, I watch the show. The fact that the reality shows cost much less to produce & often generate decent to solid ratings has made them a staple of network & cable television. Survivor was the first and still one of the best.

Survivor and American Idol, The Voice, The Bachelor and are all shows that offices I call on talk or talked about for days after each episode.

Doug nailed the production cost factor and they are popular but no one in our family of 4 ever was interested. We watched Deadliest Catch but sports and other shows.

I don't knock it. Just never appealled to me but sure has for millions for years. To keep the show going without going way off the concept is great producing and casting.

Episode 2 last week was pretty fun of the mill.

Tonight was why I still watch the show 34 seasons in. A new twist and a lot of fun to watch.

They didn't vote Sandra? Are you kidding me?

aualum06 wrote:They didn't vote Sandra? Are you kidding me?

I would imagine the theory was they could weaken them enough to get her next time.

LooseGoose wrote:

aualum06 wrote:They didn't vote Sandra? Are you kidding me?

I would imagine the theory was they could weaken them enough to get her next time.

The theory is we can always get Sandra next vote and then boom she wins twice. Guys on that show are stupid to vote out any other guy. The women control so much while being physically worthless with their social games

aualum06 wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

I would imagine the theory was they could weaken them enough to get her next time.

The theory is we can always get Sandra next vote and then boom she wins twice. Guys on that show are stupid to vote out any other guy. The women control so much while being physically worthless with their social games

She's now arrogant enough that she's telling them she's not going to get voted out.

Jake from State Farm wrote:

aualum06 wrote:

The theory is we can always get Sandra next vote and then boom she wins twice. Guys on that show are stupid to vote out any other guy. The women control so much while being physically worthless with their social games

She's now arrogant enough that she's telling them she's not going to get voted out.

It ridiculous

Another week another tribe voting like morons

At least we get to live in Debbie's world though

aualum06 wrote:At least we get to live in Debbie's world though

lol, she literally lost her mind.

LooseGoose wrote:

aualum06 wrote:At least we get to live in Debbie's world though

lol, she literally lost her mind.

She got forced to do the balance beam and got pissed. She was forced to not do the balance beam and got pissed.

It was an interesting episode....

'Survivor' contestant outed as trans during tense but enlightening ep

Varner committed career suicide.

PS The reunion show is going to suck even more than usual because they will spend so much time on this...boring

pulling69 wrote:Varner committed career suicide.

PS The reunion show is going to suck even more than usual because they will spend so much time on this...boring

True and true.

Zeke could bail him out - the two of them doing a traveling speech/show would probably be a decent draw.

I really think I am too old to understand all this stuff....

Zeke is born a woman.
Comes out as gay when 15.
Somewhere after that changes gender from woman to man.
Spent his season on Survivor telling people he was a gay male.
Is now in a torrid affair with Hannah, a woman from his season of Survivor.
Varner somehow did him an incredible dirty by revealing he is transgendered.

I guess somehow I don't get how that's awful.

And wouldn't Lesbian be a better fit for him than gay male?

I'm sincerely confused by all this.

LooseGoose wrote:I really think I am too old to understand all this stuff....

Zeke is born a woman.
Comes out as gay when 15.
Somewhere after that changes gender from woman to man.
Spent his season on Survivor telling people he was a gay male.
Is now in a torrid affair with Hannah, a woman from his season of Survivor.
Varner somehow did him an incredible dirty by revealing he is transgendered.

I guess somehow I don't get how that's awful.

And wouldn't Lesbian be a better fit for him than gay male?

I'm sincerely confused by all this.

Of course this hit the news so I don't even know why I am watching this episode now. Hannah and Zeke really? Hannah is a nut

Looks like a couple of hardcore lesbos, NTTAWWT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1446479/Hannah-Shapiro-Zeke-Smith-answer-q-s-relationship.html

So did he tell Varner on the show and they just didn't show it?

LooseGoose wrote:I really think I am too old to understand all this stuff....

Zeke is born a woman.
Comes out as gay when 15.
Somewhere after that changes gender from woman to man.
Spent his season on Survivor telling people he was a gay male.
Is now in a torrid affair with Hannah, a woman from his season of Survivor.
Varner somehow did him an incredible dirty by revealing he is transgendered.

I guess somehow I don't get how that's awful.

And wouldn't Lesbian be a better fit for him than gay male?

I'm sincerely confused by all this.

I think he would now be defined as straight wouldn't he? What would Probst think about someone lying about being gay?

aualum06 wrote:So did he tell Varner on the show and they just didn't show it?

It must be - - or - - Varner has TransDar like some have GayDar.

aualum06 wrote:So did he tell Varner on the show and they just didn't show it?

First off, it was a dick move to say what he did. I'm shocked he did. WTF could he possibly gain? I think he had a shot of swaying people until he said that.

I don't believe Zeke told him. Earlier in the episode he mentioned 'I think there is more going on' with Zeke than just an alliance with Ozzy. Zeke also said he had not told anyone. Sounds like Varner may have had work connections with LGBT community and just picked up on it.

Nordic wrote:

aualum06 wrote:So did he tell Varner on the show and they just didn't show it?

First off, it was a dick move to say what he did. I'm shocked he did. WTF could he possibly gain? I think he had a shot of swaying people until he said that.

I don't believe Zeke told him. Earlier in the episode he mentioned 'I think there is more going on' with Zeke than just an alliance with Ozzy. Zeke also said he had not told anyone. Sounds like Varner may have had work connections with LGBT community and just picked up on it.

I totally agree douche move. And yeah the way he dropped the knowledge it was like he knew from outside the show. Makes it even even more interesting to me.

aualum06 wrote:

Nordic wrote:

First off, it was a dick move to say what he did. I'm shocked he did. WTF could he possibly gain? I think he had a shot of swaying people until he said that.

I don't believe Zeke told him. Earlier in the episode he mentioned 'I think there is more going on' with Zeke than just an alliance with Ozzy. Zeke also said he had not told anyone. Sounds like Varner may have had work connections with LGBT community and just picked up on it.

I totally agree douche move. And yeah the way he dropped the knowledge it was like he knew from outside the show. Makes it even even more interesting to me.

Could be. But keep in mind none of Milennials had aired yet when this group left to film. So it could have worked it's way through either the Survivor grapevine or through some sort of LGTB grapevine in North Carolina.

I don't know if any of you has ever been to True Dork Times but they have the best wonkish stuff on survivor.

The True Dork Times

Well.....Varner lost his job.

'Survivor' outer Jeff Varner fired from real estate job after backlash

LooseGoose wrote:Well.....Varner lost his job.

'Survivor' outer Jeff Varner fired from real estate job after backlash

I've watched it a couple of times. My wife and one of my kids missed it the first go around. What Varner did was still despicable, but I get it more now. He is immeresed in the LGBT community and thinks differently than you or I that are not. So I (sort of) get where he was coming from. Still not right, but I get it more and I think he was generally remorseful after he realized what he had done. Zeke handled it unbelievably. In the end, they can both make this out to be a positive thing. And as father of two teenage(ish) daughters, it also provided me with quite a few teaching moments.