Re: Obsession - the tears of my enemies.

by **kingstonlake** 2017-11-26, 18:34

Clarett's Folly wrote:In his outgoing message he calls himself a "kid from Virginia with no offers." So I check out the recruiting services and, no shit, he had no offers. Yet, somehow, was miraculously listed as a 3-star prospect. Some dogshit should-be-D2 player automatically gets 3 stars because he's signing with Michigan. That kid seems like the very definition of a 1-star athlete.
Recruiting services are garbage.

And still started ahead of the three QBs the supposed king maker brought in......

by **tGreenWay** 2017-11-26, 18:35

Turtleneck wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Isn't he still considering suing um or is it just Purdue?

Why don't you ask him on Insta, GreenWay.

I pay people to handle my Insta, Turtleneck, but not to interact with the masses.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-11-26, 18:54

by **tGreenWay** 2017-11-26, 19:03

Floyd Robertson wrote:

They wuz robbed in '97 by everyone who wanted to throw kisses at the retiring Tom Osborne. But their half of the natty was the real one.

by Guest 2017-11-26, 19:19

tGreenWay wrote:Speight is transferring.

The smart move the best he could hope for next year is 2nd behind Peters and he might be 3rd.

Go somewhere and play.

by **Turtleneck** 2017-11-26, 19:20

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Were people in Michigan excited for the game, LWS?

by **DWags** 2017-11-26, 19:27

Clarett's Folly wrote:In his outgoing message he calls himself a "kid from Virginia with no offers." So I check out the recruiting services and, no shit, he had no offers. Yet, somehow, was miraculously listed as a 3-star prospect. Some dogshit should-be-D2 player automatically gets 3 stars because he's signing with Michigan. That kid seems like the very definition of a 1-star athlete.
Recruiting services are garbage.

Dantonio should offer.

by **Turtleneck** 2017-11-26, 19:28

We need more thread analysis around here

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/state-our-open-threads-after-ohio-state-1

by Guest 2017-11-26, 19:41

Brian J. Manzullo@BrianManzullo

In Jim Harbaugh's first 3 seasons, @UMichFootball is now:

- 0-3 against Ohio State
- 1-2 against Michigan State
- 0-4 vs. OSU, MSU at home
- 0-6 as an underdog
- 1-7 against Top 10 teams

All of this has to change starting in 2018.
3:49 PM - Nov 25, 2017

Brett McMurphy@Brett_McMurphy

Michigan (8-4) & Missouri (7-5) are only Power 5 teams w/a winning record that had no wins this year vs. an opponent that finished w/winning record

8:15 PM - Nov 25, 2017

by **kingstonlake** 2017-11-26, 20:43

LooseGoose wrote:Brian J. Manzullo@BrianManzullo

In Jim Harbaugh's first 3 seasons, @UMichFootball is now:

- 0-3 against Ohio State
- 1-2 against Michigan State
- 0-4 vs. OSU, MSU at home
- 0-6 as an underdog
- 1-7 against Top 10 teams

All of this has to change starting in 2018.
3:49 PM - Nov 25, 2017

Brett McMurphy@Brett_McMurphy

Michigan (8-4) & Missouri (7-5) are only Power 5 teams w/a winning record that had no wins this year vs. an opponent that finished w/winning record

8:15 PM - Nov 25, 2017

Match em up in the overrated bowl so ones guaranteed a victory

by Clarett's Folly 2017-11-28, 10:35

At some point today the Walverine in your life will drop this turd into your inbox. It took me all of 11 minutes to refute it. Feel free to copy and paste as needed.

Offensive Holding (Big Ten 2017):
Purdue 0, Michigan 1
MSU 2, Michigan 2
Indiana 0, Michigan 1
PSU 0, Michigan 1
Rutgers 1, Michigan 0
Minnesota 0, Michigan 0
Maryland 1, Michigan 1
Wisconsin 1, Michigan 1
OSU 1, Michigan 2
TOTALS:
Opponents 6, Michigan 9

Notes below.

Purdue:
None

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 14 O'Korn, John pass complete to Peoples-J, D. for 16 yards to the MICH30 (Thieneman, J.),
PENALTY MICH holding (Ulizio, Nolan) 7 yards to the MICH7, NO PLAY.
__

MSU:
3-10 Mich 47 Lewerke, Brian pass incomplete to Jackson, T., PENALTY MSU holding declined.
2-12 MSU 48 Lewerke, Brian rush for 4 yards to the MICH48 (Kinnel, Tyree), PENALTY MSU holding
declined.

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 45 PENALTY MICH holding (Higdon, Karan) 10 yards to the MICH35.
1-10 Mich 42 PENALTY MICH holding (Cole, Mason) 10 yards to the MICH32.
__

Indiana:
None

Michigan:
2-10 IND 27 Higdon, Karan rush for 10 yards to the IND17 (Covington, C.), PENALTY MICH holding
(Peoples-J, D.) 10 yards to the IND37, NO PLAY.
__

Penn State:
None

Michigan:
2-9 Mich 26 O'Korn, John pass complete to Crawford, Kekoa for 24 yards to the 50 yardline,
out-of-bounds, PENALTY MICH holding (Bushell-Beatty) 10 yards to the MICH16, NO PLAY.

__

Rutgers:
2-10 RU 31 PENALTY RU holding (Maietti, M.) 10 yards to the RU21.

Michigan:
None

__

Minnesota:
None

Michigan:
None

__

Maryland:
1-10 UMD 35 Brand, R. pass complete to Jacobs, T. for 1 yard to the UMD36 (Metellus, Josh), PENALTY
UMD holding (Veii, J.) 10 yards to the UMD26.

Michigan:
3-9 UMD 18 Peters, Brandon pass complete to Evans, Chris for 9 yards to the UMD9 (Woods, J.),
PENALTY MICH holding (Kugler, Patrick) 10 yards to the UMD19.

__

Wisconsin:
2-3 WIS 46 Taylor, J. rush for 5 yards to the MICH49 (Long, David), PENALTY WIS holding (Biadasz,
Tyler) 10 yards to the WIS41.

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 35 Peters, Brandon pass incomplete to McKeon, Sean, PENALTY WIS holding (Tindal, Derrick) 10 X2
yards to the MICH45, 1ST DOWN MICH, NO PLAY

__

Ohio State:
2-G OSU 07 PENALTY OSU holding (Worley, Chris) 4 yards to the OSU3.

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 15 PENALTY MICH holding (Bredeson, Ben) 7 yards to the MICH8.
3-5 OSU 40 PENALTY MICH holding (Watson, Brandon) 10 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN OSU

by TheReal_LWS 2017-11-28, 10:39

Clarett's Folly wrote:At some point today the Walverine in your life will drop this turd into your inbox. It took me all of 11 minutes to refute it. Feel free to copy and paste as needed.

Offensive Holding (Big Ten 2017):
Purdue 0, Michigan 1
MSU 2, Michigan 2
Indiana 0, Michigan 1
PSU 0, Michigan 1
Rutgers 1, Michigan 0
Minnesota 0, Michigan 0
Maryland 1, Michigan 1
Wisconsin 1, Michigan 1
OSU 1, Michigan 2
TOTALS:
Opponents 6, Michigan 9

Notes below.

Purdue:
None

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 14 O'Korn, John pass complete to Peoples-J, D. for 16 yards to the MICH30 (Thieneman, J.),
PENALTY MICH holding (Ulizio, Nolan) 7 yards to the MICH7, NO PLAY.
__

MSU:
3-10 Mich 47 Lewerke, Brian pass incomplete to Jackson, T., PENALTY MSU holding declined.
2-12 MSU 48 Lewerke, Brian rush for 4 yards to the MICH48 (Kinnel, Tyree), PENALTY MSU holding
declined.

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 45 PENALTY MICH holding (Higdon, Karan) 10 yards to the MICH35.
1-10 Mich 42 PENALTY MICH holding (Cole, Mason) 10 yards to the MICH32.
__

Indiana:
None

Michigan:
2-10 IND 27 Higdon, Karan rush for 10 yards to the IND17 (Covington, C.), PENALTY MICH holding
(Peoples-J, D.) 10 yards to the IND37, NO PLAY.
__

Penn State:
None

Michigan:
2-9 Mich 26 O'Korn, John pass complete to Crawford, Kekoa for 24 yards to the 50 yardline,
out-of-bounds, PENALTY MICH holding (Bushell-Beatty) 10 yards to the MICH16, NO PLAY.

__

Rutgers:
2-10 RU 31 PENALTY RU holding (Maietti, M.) 10 yards to the RU21.

Michigan:
None

__

Minnesota:
None

Michigan:
None

__

Maryland:
1-10 UMD 35 Brand, R. pass complete to Jacobs, T. for 1 yard to the UMD36 (Metellus, Josh), PENALTY
UMD holding (Veii, J.) 10 yards to the UMD26.

Michigan:
3-9 UMD 18 Peters, Brandon pass complete to Evans, Chris for 9 yards to the UMD9 (Woods, J.),
PENALTY MICH holding (Kugler, Patrick) 10 yards to the UMD19.

__

Wisconsin:
2-3 WIS 46 Taylor, J. rush for 5 yards to the MICH49 (Long, David), PENALTY WIS holding (Biadasz,
Tyler) 10 yards to the WIS41.

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 35 Peters, Brandon pass incomplete to McKeon, Sean, PENALTY WIS holding (Tindal, Derrick) 10 X2
yards to the MICH45, 1ST DOWN MICH, NO PLAY

__

Ohio State:
2-G OSU 07 PENALTY OSU holding (Worley, Chris) 4 yards to the OSU3.

Michigan:
1-10 Mich 15 PENALTY MICH holding (Bredeson, Ben) 7 yards to the MICH8.
3-5 OSU 40 PENALTY MICH holding (Watson, Brandon) 10 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN OSU

Two hurt starting QBs.

So what this proves is that their OL sucks and can only protect their QB when they hold.

by **DWags** 2017-11-28, 20:01

Drake Harris will change college football elsewhere.

by **Turtleneck** 2017-11-28, 20:04

DWags wrote:Drake Harris will change college football elsewhere.

Maybe he can win a MAC championship at CMU or something.

by **InTenSity** 2017-11-29, 13:02

Did you guys already discuss that Malzone is transferring as well?

by **Heat Miser** 2017-11-29, 14:12

InTenSity wrote:Did you guys already discuss that Malzone is transferring as well?

He was unable to hear the whispers and was cast out.

by Clarett's Folly 2017-11-29, 15:00

Heat Miser wrote:
InTenSity wrote:Did you guys already discuss that Malzone is transferring as well?

He was unable to hear the whispers and was cast out.

Harbaugh's a great QB coach so long as the QB he's coaching has elite physical talent and an unshakable mental makeup.

by Clarett's Folly 2017-11-29, 15:46

Some MGoDouche wrote:It takes someone with an asinine preconceived notion to look at Harbaugh's track record and call him a perennial 9-3 coach.

Harbaugh's career record at Stanford and Michigan: 7 Years, 57-31
Average career record: 8-4

by **MiamiSpartan** 2017-11-29, 16:39

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Some MGoDouche wrote:It takes someone with an asinine preconceived notion to look at Harbaugh's track record and call him a perennial 9-3 coach.

Harbaugh's career record at Stanford and Michigan: 7 Years, 57-31
Average career record: 8-4

It's not often that I agree with someone on that site, but that statement of his is correct.

(even if his intent is not)

by **MiamiSpartan** 2017-11-29, 16:40

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

He was unable to hear the whispers and was cast out.

Harbaugh's a great QB coach so long as the QB he's coaching has elite physical talent and an unshakable mental makeup.

And is able to tune out Harbaugh.

by **kingstonlake** 2017-11-29, 17:26

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

He was unable to hear the whispers and was cast out.

Harbaugh's a great QB coach so long as the QB he's coaching has elite physical talent and an unshakable mental makeup.

It's becoming apparent he needs alot of Luck to succeed.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2017-12-03, 22:38

Has a NYD bowl ever had two unranked teams playing?

That really stands out for the Outback Bowl as you're scrolling through the list of bowls. This reminds me of their Sugar Bowl year when it was widely considered one of the weakest BCS bowl match ups. Look the bowls and see the other bowls that pit two unranked Power 5 teams against each other. The Cactus Bowl, The Dallas Bowl, The Pinstripe Bowl, and others like that. Umm, congrats, I guess?

The added beauty is that this just feeds the paper tiger. They actually take pride in getting a higher bowl because of their name brand and not on merit. It keeps their arrogance high, which is what holds them back.

by **steveschneider** 2017-12-03, 23:02

So what day is our bowl game? Does this mean I get to watch us on Christmas?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-12-03, 23:04

steveschneider wrote:So what day is our bowl game? Does this mean I get to watch us on Christmas?

December 28th, Steve. When is Christmas?

by **Turtleneck** 2017-12-03, 23:26

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:So what day is our bowl game? Does this mean I get to watch us on Christmas?

December 28th, Steve. When is Christmas?

Whatever day that little rascal Jesus was born.

by **steveschneider** 2017-12-03, 23:41

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:So what day is our bowl game? Does this mean I get to watch us on Christmas?

December 28th, Steve. When is Christmas?

The 28th?? What a shitty bowl. That’s a work day.

by **Turtleneck** 2017-12-03, 23:54

It’s a 9pm kickoff, Steve. It’s a 3pm kickoff for Schilling, or maybe it’s a 6pm or 12am kickoff.v Not sure.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-12-04, 00:00

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

December 28th, Steve. When is Christmas?

The 28th?? What a shitty bowl. That’s a work day.

It’s only work if you make it work, Steve.

by **DWags** 2017-12-04, 05:58

MiamiSpartan wrote:Has a NYD bowl ever had two unranked teams playing?

That really stands out for the Outback Bowl as you're scrolling through the list of bowls. This reminds me of their Sugar Bowl year when it was widely considered one of the weakest BCS bowl match ups. Look the bowls and see the other bowls that pit two unranked Power 5 teams against each other. The Cactus Bowl, The Dallas Bowl, The Pinstripe Bowl, and others like that. Umm, congrats, I guess?

The added beauty is that this just feeds the paper tiger. They actually take pride in getting a higher bowl because of their name brand and not on merit. It keeps their arrogance high, which is what holds them back.

January 1, 2011 Outback. 7-5 Penn State vs. 7-5 Florida. Both were 4-4 in their league. Over 60K attended and it got a 7.1 Nielsen (12.4 million viewers)

So, yeah, I googled that question.

Bowl games are all about making money and putting fans into seats. I blame the Big Ten somewhat for the Holiday bowl slight, but I also blame our fan base, too. Dantonio has brought our program along, but I don't think our fans have caught up to him yet, or worse, after a decade of good football, still are ho-hum about it. Iowa, PSU, OSU, Wisconsin, Michigan, as much as we joke about it, they do "travel well" I guess. I really don't know if our fan base does or not, or if bowls consider our fan base one that does. But it seems to me we don't have the reputation of the schools I've listed. I'm part of the blame, I had a chance to go to the playoff game, but didn't. I'm iffy about this game too.

by **steveschneider** 2017-12-04, 07:28

DWags wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:Has a NYD bowl ever had two unranked teams playing?

That really stands out for the Outback Bowl as you're scrolling through the list of bowls. This reminds me of their Sugar Bowl year when it was widely considered one of the weakest BCS bowl match ups. Look the bowls and see the other bowls that pit two unranked Power 5 teams against each other. The Cactus Bowl, The Dallas Bowl, The Pinstripe Bowl, and others like that. Umm, congrats, I guess?

The added beauty is that this just feeds the paper tiger. They actually take pride in getting a higher bowl because of their name brand and not on merit. It keeps their arrogance high, which is what holds them back.

January 1, 2011 Outback. 7-5 Penn State vs. 7-5 Florida. Both were 4-4 in their league. Over 60K attended and it got a 7.1 Nielsen (12.4 million viewers)

So, yeah, I googled that question.

Bowl games are all about making money and putting fans into seats. I blame the Big Ten somewhat for the Holiday bowl slight, but I also blame our fan base, too. Dantonio has brought our program along, but I don't think our fans have caught up to him yet, or worse, after a decade of good football, still are ho-hum about it. Iowa, PSU, OSU, Wisconsin, Michigan, as much as we joke about it, they do "travel well" I guess. I really don't know if our fan base does or not, or if bowls consider our fan base one that does. But it seems to me we don't have the reputation of the schools I've listed. I'm part of the blame, I had a chance to go to the playoff game, but didn't. I'm iffy about this game too.

I think it’s a sign of intelligence on our part that we don’t travel well. We traveled well for the rose bowl because the Rose Bowl has history, it’s california and it was a great matchup. Who would want to travel to see us got stomped by Alabama? Or travel to some of these dumb ass lower level bowls? The truth is smart people know it’s better to watch most of these at home on tv. I think the bowl system is to blame too, they gotta step up their game if they expect me to get on a plane and go to this stuff.

Also, I bet we travel well to final fours and that’s because they are worth it.

by **kingstonlake** 2017-12-04, 08:08

Is it true that the holiday bowl had first choice of teams from the big ten after the new years six and second choice of teams behind the Alamo bowl of pac 12 teams? If so they were smart in taking MSU and get the best matchup for their bowl. How is that a slight to MSU?

by **steveschneider** 2017-12-04, 08:10

“Here's the response from Outback Bowl president/CEO Jim McVay:
"We're tied in with the Big Ten and we're tied in with the Southeastern Conference and both teams are loaded with excellent inventory. On the Big Ten side we looked at a couple of teams. The way the process with the Outback Bowl (works) is: We get our selection committee, our board. And once it's clear who is available, we make presentations about each team and then (the board) votes. Whatever the decision is from the board and the selection committee (is) that's who we take. We feel very fortunate to have South Carolina and coach (Will) Muschamp and the University of Michigan and Jim Harbaugh in our game. We're excited about it."
So, basically, they voted and went with Harbaugh's Wolverines over Dantonio's Spartans.”

Yeah, well your committee can go fuck their selves.

by TheReal_LWS 2017-12-04, 08:16

kingstonlake wrote:Is it true that the holiday bowl had first choice of teams from the big ten after the new years six and second choice of teams behind the Alamo bowl of pac 12 teams? If so they were smart in taking MSU and get the best matchup for their bowl. How is that a slight to MSU?

I've seen nothing to substantiate that claim.

by **steveschneider** 2017-12-04, 10:04

TheReal_LWS wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Is it true that the holiday bowl had first choice of teams from the big ten after the new years six and second choice of teams behind the Alamo bowl of pac 12 teams? If so they were smart in taking MSU and get the best matchup for their bowl. How is that a slight to MSU?

I've seen nothing to substantiate that claim.

From what I’ve seen it’s a snub. Who cares though we can’t control this type of shit and I’m not losing any sleep over it.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-12-04, 10:40

steveschneider wrote:
TheReal_LWS wrote:

I've seen nothing to substantiate that claim.

From what I’ve seen it’s a snub. Who cares though we can’t control this type of shit and I’m not losing any sleep over it.

It’s a snub if we believe these bowl games are supposed to select the best teams. They are not and don’t. So it’s really not a snub. If you want to believe that, then Northwestern should be headed to the outback.

by **tGreenWay** 2017-12-04, 10:48

steveschneider wrote:
TheReal_LWS wrote:

I've seen nothing to substantiate that claim.

From what I’ve seen it’s a snub. Who cares though we can’t control this type of shit and I’m not losing any sleep over it.

It's not a snub until Herbie declares it a snub.

by **steveschneider** 2017-12-04, 10:55

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

From what I’ve seen it’s a snub. Who cares though we can’t control this type of shit and I’m not losing any sleep over it.

It’s a snub if we believe these bowl games are supposed to select the best teams. They are not and don’t. So it’s really not a snub. If you want to believe that, then Northwestern should be headed to the outback.

Does northwestern travel well? I bet they don’t.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2017-12-04, 10:58

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

It’s a snub if we believe these bowl games are supposed to select the best teams. They are not and don’t. So it’s really not a snub. If you want to believe that, then Northwestern should be headed to the outback.

Does northwestern travel well? I bet they don’t.

Northwestern can't travel from campus to their stadium.

by **Nordic** 2017-12-04, 11:06

tGreenWay wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

From what I’ve seen it’s a snub. Who cares though we can’t control this type of shit and I’m not losing any sleep over it.

It's not a snub until Herbie declares it a snub.

This is going to be a Chip game!

by **kingstonlake** 2017-12-04, 11:15

All the chatter at scum is about beating an SEC team. What's South Carolina maybe the fifth best SEC team?

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