So, Who Will Be The Next Head Football Coach At Michigan State University?

steveschneider wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:Fickell has been on the radar for a couple of years. At least on Dantonio's radar and maybe even on the radar of some big donors. So I wouldn't think it would be anything astute by Beekman necessarily, and ground work had likely been laid by others, whether it pays off or not.

To make a baseball analogy, those guys get paid a lot of money to make a routine pop fly look incredibly smooth and easy where it's common to the layman to take for granted how difficult it is in real life. I've played soft ball pick up games where you'll see the same type of pop fly up in the air the out fielder runs 5 feet left, 5 feet right and will end up making constant adjustments to catch the ball. Beekman is a pro outfielder and if he makes this look like a routine hire I'll be impressed.

if CMD really and truly dropped this on MSU like a couple of days ago, which I doubt, then he's a massive dick. the MSU brass should always have a tentative contingency plan to replace a coach anyway.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:If I recall the transition in for Dantonio wasn't the smoothest either....(raining Pelini heads anyone?) He wasn't exactly the first choice for "fans" and didn't they announce it prior to the bowl game or something? He had them wait until after his bowl game which some where rankled about missing out on recruiting or something....

He wasn't even on the radar of fans, except for blanch and a couple of others (yes, I said it, I'll give credit where due, blanch suggested MD earlier in the 2006 season, I think, prior to anyone else on tRCMB....well, he meant Mark Dantonio, but he probably spelled it something like Merg Dangtoneo).

But yeah, it was anything but smooth. Raining Pelini Heads on tRCMB. Comp had heard that it was Grantham just an hour or two before MD was announced. Kelly was very much a hot candidate that we were talking to (but good ol' Joel wasn't having that and threatened to undermine that). MD happened so quick because he refused to talk to us until after his bowl, so it's hard to really know for sure if he was truly the first choice from the start and the others were Plan B options, if he wasn't first choice to begin with, but became first choice after interviewing, or if he was a compromise candidate. I'd always heard the latter, but either way, we had typical MSU in-fighting, and one way or another stumbled into greatness.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

I would hire him for OL coach and tell him to the state of Wisconsin and start lining up linemen.

good point.

hire him for the OL, send him to Wisconsin and Iowa with a truck full of scholarships and say "I don't want to see your doughy white ass again until you bring back 6-8 corn fed bumpkins with crewcuts who are all 6'5", 285 lbs".

you don't think other schools try that? those kids grow up dreaming of playing for wisconsin, the only game in town.

kingstonlake wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:Fickell has been on the radar for a couple of years. At least on Dantonio's radar and maybe even on the radar of some big donors. So I wouldn't think it would be anything astute by Beekman necessarily, and ground work had likely been laid by others, whether it pays off or not.

His hiring is a good fit considering the fickle fan base.

Banks2Mason wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

To make a baseball analogy, those guys get paid a lot of money to make a routine pop fly look incredibly smooth and easy where it's common to the layman to take for granted how difficult it is in real life. I've played soft ball pick up games where you'll see the same type of pop fly up in the air the out fielder runs 5 feet left, 5 feet right and will end up making constant adjustments to catch the ball. Beekman is a pro outfielder and if he makes this look like a routine hire I'll be impressed.

if CMD really and truly dropped this on MSU like a couple of days ago, which I doubt, then he's a massive dick. the MSU brass should always have a tentative contingency plan to replace a coach anyway.

He didn't.  Is anyone reporting that?  I mean, he did just drop it on his players and staff, but it's been pretty widely stated (at least on the bunker, and I thought on here) that the admin knew a couple of weeks ago that this was something that he was considering.  The timing of them knowing seems to fit fairly well with the timing of him learning that he's going to be a grandpappy.

But yes, you would think that they always have a contingency plan.  Any school should.  Circumstances change in people's lives, people get sick, people die suddenly, etc.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

if CMD really and truly dropped this on MSU like a couple of days ago, which I doubt, then he's a massive dick. the MSU brass should always have a tentative contingency plan to replace a coach anyway.

He didn't.  Is anyone reporting that?  I mean, he did just drop it on his players and staff, but it's been pretty widely stated (at least on the bunker, and I thought on here) that the admin knew a couple of weeks ago that this was something that he was considering.  The timing of them knowing seems to fit fairly well with the timing of him learning that he's going to be a grandpappy.

But yes, you would think that they always have a contingency plan.  Any school should.  Circumstances change in people's lives, people get sick, people die suddenly, etc.

reporting, no. saying, yes. bc people are idiots.

some seem to believe that (1) beekman basically has to do this on his own and (2) prior to yesterday, had never even considered the possibility that he'd have to. but, idiots.

Come on Fickell! What the fuck do you have to lose?!

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Come on Fickell! What the fuck do you have to lose?!

proximity to the creation museum?

Banks2Mason wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
He didn't.  Is anyone reporting that?  I mean, he did just drop it on his players and staff, but it's been pretty widely stated (at least on the bunker, and I thought on here) that the admin knew a couple of weeks ago that this was something that he was considering.  The timing of them knowing seems to fit fairly well with the timing of him learning that he's going to be a grandpappy.

But yes, you would think that they always have a contingency plan.  Any school should.  Circumstances change in people's lives, people get sick, people die suddenly, etc.

reporting, no. saying, yes. bc people are idiots.

some seem to believe that (1) beekman basically has to do this on his own and (2) prior to yesterday, had never even considered the possibility that he'd have to. but, idiots.

Are you arguing with these people somewhere else?

NigelUno wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

reporting, no. saying, yes. bc people are idiots.

some seem to believe that (1) beekman basically has to do this on his own and (2) prior to yesterday, had never even considered the possibility that he'd have to. but, idiots.

Are you arguing with these people somewhere else?

no, but i've read it online and heard it in person.

Banks2Mason wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
good point.

hire him for the OL, send him to Wisconsin and Iowa with a truck full of scholarships and say "I don't want to see your doughy white ass again until you bring back 6-8 corn fed bumpkins with crewcuts who are all 6'5", 285 lbs".

you don't think other schools try that? those kids grow up dreaming of playing for wisconsin, the only game in town.

Yeah but there's lot of them boys and Wisconsin can only sign so many.

Banks2Mason wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Are you arguing with these people somewhere else?

no, but i've read it online and heard it in person.

I hope you set them straight. Just sayin'.

NigelUno wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

no, but i've read it online and heard it in person.

I hope you set them straight. Just sayin'.

there's no reasoning with idiots

Some folks think Fickell is the guy.

Regardless of the final decision, I am very happy AD Beekman knew Dantonio was going to retire, started a coaching search and Joel Ferguson didn’t find out about Dantonio’s retirement until Tuesday when the rest of us started hearing rumors

Just in case anyone is wondering...the buy out for the boat rower is $10 million.

NigelUno wrote:Just in case anyone is wondering...the buy out for the boat rower is $10 million.

Swill Kickstarter?

GRR Spartan wrote:Some folks think Fickell is the guy.

Regardless of the final decision, I am very happy AD Beekman knew Dantonio was going to retire, started a coaching search and Joel Ferguson didn’t find out about Dantonio’s retirement until Tuesday when the rest of us started hearing rumors

I think Joel's days as being a power broker are long gone. Although if he wants to push Saleh as a minority candidate, I'm fine with that. Not sure he would fit Joel's parameters though.

NigelUno wrote:

GRR Spartan wrote:Some folks think Fickell is the guy.

Regardless of the final decision, I am very happy AD Beekman knew Dantonio was going to retire, started a coaching search and Joel Ferguson didn’t find out about Dantonio’s retirement until Tuesday when the rest of us started hearing rumors

I think Joel's days as being a power broker are long gone. Although if he wants to push Saleh as a minority candidate, I'm fine with that. Not sure he would fit Joel's parameters though.

he's fun to joke about, but i imagine his days as a true sports power broker at MSU ended with the Bobby disaster.

hiring is a good fit considering the fickle fanbase

HEY OH!!!

Banks2Mason wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Come on Fickell! What the fuck do you have to lose?!

proximity to the creation museum?

We have our own in an Ancient Aliens sort of way...

What was the inspiration for that anyway?  The AC vent things you can flap up and down (or sideways) in your car?

NigelUno wrote:What was the inspiration for that anyway?  The AC vent things you can flap up and down (or sideways) in your car?

it's an art museum. they look weird. it's cool MSU has one.

Banks2Mason wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

I think Joel's days as being a power broker are long gone. Although if he wants to push Saleh as a minority candidate, I'm fine with that. Not sure he would fit Joel's parameters though.

he's fun to joke about, but i imagine his days as a true sports power broker at MSU ended with the Bobby disaster.

Looking back Joel was the type that thrived the most when there was unrest and negativity around the program. He was still meddling (even if not as powerful) during the JLS era, but the MD era was bad for Joel's efforts to be relevant.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

it's an art museum. they look weird. it's cool MSU has one.

it's hideously ugly..

but, then again, I don't really do a ton of art.

we should see what Fickell thinks of it.

sorry msu didn't just build another brown rectangle, bob

Banks2Mason wrote:

NigelUno wrote:What was the inspiration for that anyway?  The AC vent things you can flap up and down (or sideways) in your car?

it's an art museum. they look weird. it's cool MSU has one.

Oh. I thought it was Munn Ice Arena. Heard they were upgrading it.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

sorry msu didn't just build another brown rectangle, bob

meh - I wouldn't have gone to it, either.

What if it was white?

Banks2Mason wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: it's hideously ugly..

but, then again, I don't really do a ton of art.

we should see what Fickell thinks of it.

sorry msu didn't just build another brown rectangle, bob

I too have always said, hmmm why keep building these brown buildings that eventually get covered with ivy? This would be a great place for a smashed spaceship looking thing. Right next to the gerbil parking ramp.

Banks2Mason wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
He didn't.  Is anyone reporting that?  I mean, he did just drop it on his players and staff, but it's been pretty widely stated (at least on the bunker, and I thought on here) that the admin knew a couple of weeks ago that this was something that he was considering.  The timing of them knowing seems to fit fairly well with the timing of him learning that he's going to be a grandpappy.

But yes, you would think that they always have a contingency plan.  Any school should.  Circumstances change in people's lives, people get sick, people die suddenly, etc.

reporting, no. saying, yes. bc people are idiots.

some seem to believe that (1) beekman basically has to do this on his own and (2) prior to yesterday, had never even considered the possibility that he'd have to. but, idiots.

Exactly right. As fucked up as the administration is and has been there is no way they let Beekman do this alone.

Hell, the last time an AD made a pretty much solo hire we wound up with John L Smith. And Mason was 10x more qualified than Beekman.

DWags wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

sorry msu didn't just build another brown rectangle, bob

I too have always said, hmmm why keep building these brown buildings that eventually get covered with ivy? This would be a great place for a smashed spaceship looking thing. Right next to the gerbil parking ramp.

I think it would have made a bigger statement out in the middle of a cow pasture south of campus (like a spaceship had indeed crashed into a field).

DWags wrote:

Banks2Mason wrote:

sorry msu didn't just build another brown rectangle, bob

I too have always said, hmmm why keep building these brown buildings that eventually get covered with ivy? This would be a great place for a smashed spaceship looking thing. Right next to the gerbil parking ramp.

i'm sure if you become MSU's (probable) largest donor in history they'd build it out of old natty light cans if you wanted

Banks2Mason wrote:

DWags wrote:

I too have always said, hmmm why keep building these brown buildings that eventually get covered with ivy? This would be a great place for a smashed spaceship looking thing. Right next to the gerbil parking ramp.

i'm sure if you become MSU's (probable) largest donor in history they'd build it out of old natty light cans if you wanted

.

So true. It could have looked line a giant penis and msu would have thanked him.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fickell? Narduzzi?

what does Narduzzi's contract look like at Pitt??

Matt Campbell from Iowa State?

Probably standard for the industry: Pieces of paper with lots of letters and numbers on it.

DWags wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:


I’m on board with this.

Triple reverse pass every other play. Free beer every time we score.

Free hats for every win.