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Post by Rocinante Fri May 08, 2020 1:04 pm

There was another story showing divorce filings from around the time that it is alleged to have happened where her husband alludes to “harassment “ in the Biden offices that led to her leaving. He said it was obviously very hard on her. Not a smoking gun, but not nothing.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Fri May 08, 2020 1:13 pm

Rocinante wrote:There was another story showing divorce filings from around the time that it is alleged to have happened where her husband alludes to “harassment “ in the Biden offices that led to her leaving. He said it was obviously very hard on her. Not a smoking gun, but not nothing.

Hmmm. "Harrassment in the office" could be a lot of things not even directly involving Biden.
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Post by Rocinante Fri May 08, 2020 2:17 pm

Correct. Or it could involve him. Or she could be lying as there is a history of that. Just the kind of perfect storm of bullshit that will be used in any number of ways by the trump campaign and their state sponsored propaganda machines.
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Post by Rocinante Fri May 08, 2020 2:18 pm

Because the point isn’t to turn likely Dems to his side as we all know. It’s to get people to think all politicians are corrupt and why bother even voting.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri May 08, 2020 4:30 pm

I'm gonna vote for the guy who doesn't brag about raping women and currently presides over the worst economy since The Great Depression during a pandemic that has killed 77,000+ Americans.

Y'all enjoy the mainstream media noise designed for clicks.
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Post by steveschneider Fri May 08, 2020 4:38 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm gonna vote for the guy who doesn't brag about raping women and currently presides over the worst economy since The Great Depression during a pandemic that has killed 77,000+ Americans.

Y'all enjoy the mainstream media noise designed for clicks.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri May 08, 2020 6:49 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm gonna vote for the guy who doesn't brag about raping women and currently presides over the worst economy since The Great Depression during a pandemic that has killed 77,000+ Americans.

Y'all enjoy the mainstream media noise designed for clicks.

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thank you, good sir.

Life is actually quite simple if you want it to be.
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Post by steveschneider Fri May 08, 2020 9:46 pm

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thank you, good sir.

Life is actually quite simple if you want it to be.

It should be so simple just vote for anyone but the racist, sexual predator but yet it’s so hard.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par Fri May 08, 2020 11:28 pm

This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.
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Post by steveschneider Fri May 08, 2020 11:51 pm

Three_Putt_Par wrote:This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.

I’m on the same page. Just win and end this national nightmare.
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Post by Cameron Sat May 09, 2020 12:00 am

Three_Putt_Par wrote:This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.

Every time I start to think "maybe I'll just sit this one out," the Republicans do something awful, or I remember Mitch McConnell exists.

Rock and a hard place.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par Sat May 09, 2020 12:03 am

Cameron wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.

Every time I start to think "maybe I'll just sit this one out," the Republicans do something awful, or I remember Mitch McConnell exists.

Rock and a hard place.

A 7-2 majority SCOTUS with mostly young conservative justices is a disaster if you're a liberal or moderate. It will set legal precedent for a very long time. Plus, I'm moving to a swing state again so that increases the importance of my vote.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Sat May 09, 2020 6:53 am

Three_Putt_Par wrote:This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.
like I said, life is pretty simple if you want it to be.

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Post by steveschneider Sat May 09, 2020 6:58 am

Cameron wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.

Every time I start to think "maybe I'll just sit this one out," the Republicans do something awful, or I remember Mitch McConnell exists.

Rock and a hard place.

Stay off YouTube.
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Post by steveschneider Sat May 09, 2020 7:03 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:This election is all about damage control for me at this point. I'm not a Biden fan (I'm a "Bernie bro") but I don't want a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS and I think Biden will surround himself with much better people.
like I said, life is pretty simple if you want it to be.

You're a great American.

Yep I’m too patriotic to let a racist sexual predator destroy our country. It’s going to be the easiest vote ever.
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Post by NigelUno Sat May 09, 2020 8:21 am

Bring this guy back.

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Post by steveschneider Sat May 09, 2020 9:11 am

NigelUno wrote:Bring this guy back.

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Speaking of third party candidates, I saw Justin Amash on Real Time last night. Holy moly, what kind of drugs is that guy on?
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Post by Cameron Sat May 09, 2020 10:23 am

steveschneider wrote:
Cameron wrote:

Every time I start to think "maybe I'll just sit this one out," the Republicans do something awful, or I remember Mitch McConnell exists.

Rock and a hard place.

Stay off YouTube.

What does youtube have to do with that post?
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Post by steveschneider Sat May 09, 2020 12:46 pm

Cameron wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Stay off YouTube.

What does youtube have to do with that post?

You are watching vids that start and end with ‘Joe Biden is your enemy’. I think that’s playing a part in making this so difficult for you.
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Post by Cameron Sat May 09, 2020 4:24 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Cameron wrote:

What does youtube have to do with that post?

You are watching vids that start and end with ‘Joe Biden is your enemy’. I think that’s playing a part in making this so difficult for you.

Maybe, but the post you responded to was about being reminded of how terrible Mitch McConnell and the Republicans are. Often by youtube, in fact.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Mon May 11, 2020 7:50 am

Saw this on Friday and should have posted it then.

California to Mail All Voters Ballots for November Election

It's pretty huge, even if CA already had 65% of votes from mail in during the 2018 midterms. Other states will follow. Screw the RNC.
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Post by Turtleneck Mon May 11, 2020 8:20 am

Anxious About the Virus, Older Voters Grow More Wary of Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/09/us/politics/trump-older-voters-2020.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200511&instance_id=18384&nl=the-morning&regi_id=63079657&segment_id=27239&te=1&user_id=2849604b17dce621a42134f6dde3a595

You growing wary of the president, Guest?
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Post by steveschneider Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 am

Just want to start off the week by saying I will be voting for Joe Biden in November.
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Post by Cameron Mon May 11, 2020 10:07 am

Turtleneck wrote:
Anxious About the Virus, Older Voters Grow More Wary of Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/09/us/politics/trump-older-voters-2020.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200511&instance_id=18384&nl=the-morning&regi_id=63079657&segment_id=27239&te=1&user_id=2849604b17dce621a42134f6dde3a595

You growing wary of the president, Guest?

No more than usual.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Mon May 11, 2020 11:14 am

steveschneider wrote:Just want to start off the week by saying I will be voting for Joe Biden in November.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Mon May 11, 2020 2:16 pm

steveschneider wrote:

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nice to see someone with a microphone finally call out the mainstream media as tools for the GOP and Russia.
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Post by Rocinante Mon May 11, 2020 2:21 pm

Eh.
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Post by steveschneider Mon May 11, 2020 2:55 pm

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nice to see someone with a microphone finally call out the mainstream media as tools for the GOP and Russia.

I like the part where he said the republicans don't care about this stuff (sexual assault) and will use it unilaterally as a weapon against Democrats.
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Post by msugolfguy Mon May 11, 2020 7:28 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Anxious About the Virus, Older Voters Grow More Wary of Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/09/us/politics/trump-older-voters-2020.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200511&instance_id=18384&nl=the-morning&regi_id=63079657&segment_id=27239&te=1&user_id=2849604b17dce621a42134f6dde3a595

You growing wary of the president, Guest?

I'm kinda young 34, but after today's presser I've had enough. This is ridiculous.
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Post by Cameron Wed May 13, 2020 1:03 am

Cameron wrote:
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You growing wary of the president, Guest?

No more than usual.

Username gag got me.

I just had a thought. The fact that we're running Biden now shows that we have taken a demonstrable step back as a country (which can also rightly be viewed as an indictment of Trump). Obama won the Democratic primary in 2008 because he was a better candidate than Biden (and all the others). Biden then became his older, shittier understudy. And now, Biden is even fucking older and 4 years removed from even having a job. And he would be the obviously superior choice if we were voting tomorrow.

What do we need to do to get better candidates? How can we do away with the "electability" nonsense and just pick the candidate with the best platform? I sometimes wonder whether US style democracy can actually work. It seems to just continually degrade...
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Wed May 13, 2020 1:09 am

Cameron wrote:
Cameron wrote:

No more than usual.

Username gag got me.

I just had a thought. The fact that we're running Biden now shows that we have taken a demonstrable step back as a country (which can also rightly be viewed as an indictment of Trump). Obama won the Democratic primary in 2008 because he was a better candidate than Biden (and all the others). Biden then became his older, shittier understudy. And now, Biden is even fucking older and 4 years removed from even having a job. And he would be the obviously superior choice if we were voting tomorrow.

What do we need to do to get better candidates? How can we do away with the "electability" nonsense and just pick the candidate with the best platform? I sometimes wonder whether US style democracy can actually work. It seems to just continually degrade...

Something something the lesser of two evils Rolling Eyes
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Post by NigelUno Wed May 13, 2020 6:35 am

Maybe a strong VP will lead the country.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed May 13, 2020 8:03 am

Cameron wrote:
Cameron wrote:

No more than usual.

Username gag got me.

I just had a thought. The fact that we're running Biden now shows that we have taken a demonstrable step back as a country (which can also rightly be viewed as an indictment of Trump). Obama won the Democratic primary in 2008 because he was a better candidate than Biden (and all the others). Biden then became his older, shittier understudy. And now, Biden is even fucking older and 4 years removed from even having a job. And he would be the obviously superior choice if we were voting tomorrow.

What do we need to do to get better candidates? How can we do away with the "electability" nonsense and just pick the candidate with the best platform? I sometimes wonder whether US style democracy can actually work. It seems to just continually degrade...
it's a good point.

America is a very, very stupid country. Racist, bigoted and misogynist, as well. The most qualified candidate in my lifetime (I'm 50) was smeared because she mismanaged an email account. Instead, the media (aided by Russia) decided that a failed reality christian TV host who brags about raping women and mocks disabled people was their candidate.

Elizabeth Warren is/was by far the brightest, most articulate, most down-to-Earth, most prepared and most likeable (though that shouldn't matter, but it does) candidate of the 2020 Democrat primary. She never stood a chance.

modern American politics is a function of our dumbing down of education, our demonizing of education, our emphasis on image, our obsession with reality TV, our insatiable appetite for tabloid journalism, our bumper sticker-length attention span and our need to be spoonfed whatever appeals to the worst part of ourselves.

it's not going to get any better until people turn off their TV, shut down social media, have meaningful conversations with our kids and each other, become better citizens, become better parents, and become more engaged in our schools and our communities.

and I just don't see that happening.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed May 13, 2020 8:19 am

the elitists at the New York Times are finally reporting what idiots like me were saying back in March.

WASHINGTON — Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and a senior White House adviser, refused on Tuesday to rule out postponing the presidential election in November, a comment that fed directly into Democratic concerns that President Trump might use the coronavirus crisis to delay or delegitimize the contest and one that contradicted Mr. Trump himself.

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Post by NigelUno Wed May 13, 2020 8:40 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:the elitists at the New York Times are finally reporting what idiots like me were saying back in March.

WASHINGTON — Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and a senior White House adviser, refused on Tuesday to rule out postponing the presidential election in November, a comment that fed directly into Democratic concerns that President Trump might use the coronavirus crisis to delay or delegitimize the contest and one that contradicted Mr. Trump himself.

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I don't think the President can delay anything. I guess he could try.

An attempt to delay (for health concerns) would only point out they did a horrible job managing the crisis. Not sure they'd want to go down that road, but they're not very bright.

The election will happen on whatever day it's scheduled.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed May 13, 2020 9:17 am

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I don't think the President can delay anything. I guess he could try.

An attempt to delay (for health concerns) would only point out they did a horrible job managing the crisis. Not sure they'd want to go down that road, but they're not very bright.

The election will happen on whatever day it's scheduled.
oh, yeah - I suspect the election will go on whatever day in November it's scheduled to, but the racist bigoted christian sexual predator will (and is already doing so) attempt to disenfranchise Americans, dismiss results, besmirch the integrity of the election, etc. He, along with the GOP, knows that open and free elections mean that they get sent packing.
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Post by kingstonlake Wed May 13, 2020 9:22 am

Yeah I’m not sure the “let’s open the country except the part where you’re allowed to vote” is gonna fly.

Also I’ve noticed that Biden’s relatively low profile is actually working. Trump approval rating seem to be slipping. Now you’re not going to get Trump away from a microphone or camera. He’ll just fire you if you even suggest it. Maybe, just maybe Biden has enough functionality in his brain to listen to people that tell him less is more. Let Trump keep betting into your made hand.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed May 13, 2020 9:27 am

kingstonlake wrote:Yeah I’m not sure the “let’s open the country except the part where you’re allowed to vote” is gonna fly.

Also I’ve noticed that Biden’s relatively low profile is actually working. Trump approval rating seem to be slipping. Now you’re not going to get Trump away from a microphone or camera. He’ll just fire you if you even suggest it. Maybe, just maybe Biden has enough functionality in his brain to listen to people that tell him less is more. Let Trump keep betting into your made hand.
yep - the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator has his glass ceiling. He'll max out at about 38-40% of the disgusting, anti-America, hate-filled, racist, bigoted electorate. The best the GOP can hope for is that Americans either choose to say home or are disenfranchised enough to make voting virtually impossible.

nobody is going to wake up on Election Day unsure of who they're going to vote for. The GOP (along with Russia and the mainstream media) are just hoping they don't/can't vote.
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Post by steveschneider Wed May 13, 2020 9:42 am

Of course they are going to try to cancel the election. There's going to be some next level cheating from now to next January. Now is the time to unite the party, stay united and work hard to make sure Biden wins in November. Happy to report I'm still 100% committed to voting for Joe.
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