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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Yeah I mean he has that though. I’m not basing my wanting him gone on anything other than his own statements in the piece. If those are accurate, regardless of how much worse it might be based on what she says, then yeah get outta here.Heat Miser wrote:Even a dumb ass deserves due process. Otherwise every idiot with a grudge or looking to make a quick buck would be making claims against a $90 million man.
Oh, I want him gone for sure. With cause. Looking at the time line, the call occurred in April '22. She made her claim in December. He claimed it was consensual in March '23. That means MSU has been sitting on this for 6 fucking months, knowing it would only be a matter of time until it gets out. Maybe they were hoping to make it thru the season to get to prime coach hiring season?
Also, Amber Rinestine left the program in May. And the interim president recently decided not to stay. Coincidence?
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AD Haller can (and should) suspend Tucker by this evening, no later than tomorrow.
There will be lawyers involved along with the BOT and interim President signing off to terminate the remainder of Tucker’s contract. That will take more time.
Then the fun starts hiring a new coach that meets with the BOT’s approval and possibly before the BOT approves a new MSU president.
Don't know what MSU was thinking. He should have been suspended upon the filing of the claim.
Yes I don't understand why he wasn't suspended immediately. I understand innocent until proven guilty and the suspension would raise questions, but it is the only right solution.
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gomersbro wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:GRR Spartan wrote:
AD Haller can (and should) suspend Tucker by this evening, no later than tomorrow.
There will be lawyers involved along with the BOT and interim President signing off to terminate the remainder of Tucker’s contract. That will take more time.
Then the fun starts hiring a new coach that meets with the BOT’s approval and possibly before the BOT approves a new MSU president.
Don't know what MSU was thinking. He should have been suspended upon the filing of the claim.
Yes I don't understand why he wasn't suspended immediately. I understand innocent until proven guilty and the suspension would raise questions, but it is the only right solution.
Maybe not when the claim was filed, but certainly when he admitted it was consensual in his opinion.
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aualum06 wrote:Tick tock MSU response needs to be sooner rather than later
I wouldn't expect anything until tomorrow.
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kingstonlake wrote:Took the school about 24 hours to suspend players for a tunnel fracas before an investigation even started…..
None of them had $80 million left on their contract.
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That would be awesome!DWags wrote:I'd bet a dollar to a donut that the new coach is Courtney Hawkins.
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Heat Miser wrote:kingstonlake wrote:Took the school about 24 hours to suspend players for a tunnel fracas before an investigation even started…..
None of them had $80 million left on their contract.
I mean they could have still suspended him.
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Heat Miser wrote:aualum06 wrote:Tick tock MSU response needs to be sooner rather than later
I wouldn't expect anything until tomorrow.
They have had plenty of time to form a response it's not like this came out of the blue
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kingstonlake wrote:Heat Miser wrote:kingstonlake wrote:Took the school about 24 hours to suspend players for a tunnel fracas before an investigation even started…..
None of them had $80 million left on their contract.
I mean they could have still suspended him.
Well, it's only been 12ish hours since the news broke. People need to sleep and at the very least a press release has to be crafted and approved. I'd say do it tomorrow and make damn fucking sure it's done right.
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kingstonlake wrote:Took the school about 24 hours to suspend players for a tunnel fracas before an investigation even started…..
I'm still not happy with the way that was handled by MSU.
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DWags wrote:It’s 2:37. Mel Tucker is still the coach? Why? If Michigan State was so stupid, not to plan for this and a contingency, where they very well might have had to fire a coach, then they deserve everything they got I would go into every contract with the idea that we will have to fire the couch. But then again, I’m talking Michigan State so that most likely wasn’t the case.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
But, what kind of stone cold fucking moron do you have to be to get mixed up with this person? Like you have to be a complete imbecile to act as he did in his own story, nevermind hers.
This. Full stop for me.
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AvgMSUJoe wrote:It's Sunday, what's your hurry? I'm sure they have it all lined up in the program... let them officially dot their ts and cross the is and have some media thing tomorrow or whatever. Kids need to be talked to this afternoon though.
This. I assume Haller can't/won't/shouldn't do this unilaterally and certainly doesn't want to do it half assed. Gotta talk to the president and possibly the BoT. It's Sunday. People have families. Setup the calls. Have the calls. Craft a press release. Talk to coach jerk off. Talk to the staff and whomever will be interim coach. Talk to the players. Address questions/comments/concerns with everybody. This shit takes time.
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This should already have been done, MSU has been caught unprepared again even though they knew for at least a month this was comingHeat Miser wrote:AvgMSUJoe wrote:It's Sunday, what's your hurry? I'm sure they have it all lined up in the program... let them officially dot their ts and cross the is and have some media thing tomorrow or whatever. Kids need to be talked to this afternoon though.
This. I assume Haller can't/won't/shouldn't do this unilaterally and certainly doesn't want to do it half assed. Gotta talk to the president and possibly the BoT. It's Sunday. People have families. Setup the calls. Have the calls. Craft a press release. Talk to coach jerk off. Talk to the staff and whomever will be interim coach. Talk to the players. Address questions/comments/concerns with everybody. This shit takes time.
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aualum06 wrote:This should already have been done, MSU has been caught unprepared again even though they knew for at least a month this was comingHeat Miser wrote:AvgMSUJoe wrote:It's Sunday, what's your hurry? I'm sure they have it all lined up in the program... let them officially dot their ts and cross the is and have some media thing tomorrow or whatever. Kids need to be talked to this afternoon though.
This. I assume Haller can't/won't/shouldn't do this unilaterally and certainly doesn't want to do it half assed. Gotta talk to the president and possibly the BoT. It's Sunday. People have families. Setup the calls. Have the calls. Craft a press release. Talk to coach jerk off. Talk to the staff and whomever will be interim coach. Talk to the players. Address questions/comments/concerns with everybody. This shit takes time.
Talking to staff and players should've already been done? When exactly? And talking about it formally with the BoT ahead of time? Are you familiar our BoT? The chance of that being leaked to the press is 100%.
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DWags wrote:I'd bet a dollar to a donut that the new coach is Courtney Hawkins.
I would think you'd keep the coordinators in place (and not make one of them Head Coach).
Hawkins makes sense. Or Barnett?
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This should already have been done, MSU has been caught unprepared again even though they knew for at least a month this was coming
Talking to staff and players should've already been done? When exactly? And talking about it formally with the BoT ahead of time? Are you familiar our BoT? The chance of that being leaked to the press is 100%.
Uh yeah I'm not sure Tuck should have started fall camp as the coach
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aualum06 wrote:Heat Miser wrote:aualum06 wrote:
This should already have been done, MSU has been caught unprepared again even though they knew for at least a month this was coming
Talking to staff and players should've already been done? When exactly? And talking about it formally with the BoT ahead of time? Are you familiar our BoT? The chance of that being leaked to the press is 100%.
Uh yeah I'm not sure Tuck should have started fall camp as the coach
He admitted to the "consensual" act in March. I'm not sure he should've been coach for spring practices. But none of that matters now.
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Uh yeah I'm not sure Tuck should have started fall camp as the coach
He admitted to the "consensual" act in March. I'm not sure he should've been coach for spring practices. But none of that matters now.
Yeah MSU waiting for the media to break this before responding is very on brand of not being prepared
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aualum06 wrote:Heat Miser wrote:aualum06 wrote:
Uh yeah I'm not sure Tuck should have started fall camp as the coach
He admitted to the "consensual" act in March. I'm not sure he should've been coach for spring practices. But none of that matters now.
Yeah MSU waiting for the media to break this before responding is very on brand of not being prepared
Meh. That's pretty much how it goes with every program. Look at Northwestern, Iowa, and Iowa State for the most recent examples.
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aualum06 wrote:Heat Miser wrote:
He admitted to the "consensual" act in March. I'm not sure he should've been coach for spring practices. But none of that matters now.
Yeah MSU waiting for the media to break this before responding is very on brand of not being prepared
It's possible MSU leaked the story.
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NigelUno wrote:aualum06 wrote:Heat Miser wrote:
He admitted to the "consensual" act in March. I'm not sure he should've been coach for spring practices. But none of that matters now.
Yeah MSU waiting for the media to break this before responding is very on brand of not being prepared
It's possible MSU leaked the story.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
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aualum06 wrote:This should already have been done, MSU has been caught unprepared again even though they knew for at least a month this was comingHeat Miser wrote:
This. I assume Haller can't/won't/shouldn't do this unilaterally and certainly doesn't want to do it half assed. Gotta talk to the president and possibly the BoT. It's Sunday. People have families. Setup the calls. Have the calls. Craft a press release. Talk to coach jerk off. Talk to the staff and whomever will be interim coach. Talk to the players. Address questions/comments/concerns with everybody. This shit takes time.
There are people within the Athletic Department and MSU administration who knew there was a complaint made and the complaint was investigated. Whether it was days or months doesn’t matter because they had to wait until the complaint was filed, people interviewed and administration, including MSU’s legal counsel waited for the findings. MSU wasn’t going to fire Tucker before the investigation was completed and their lawyers reviewed the findings.
This is a helluva a lot more complex than firing a football coach in his 4th season because too many football games are being lost and the AD starts looking at their list of potential replacements.
MSU has 8 years remaining on its contract with Tucker. We see it as cut and dry stuff but right now its $76M over 8 years left on a contract or at least 150% of MSU’s BTN check that shows up in June 2024.
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aualum06 wrote:Coach D coming back with Barnett in charge??
what?
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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:aualum06 wrote:Coach D coming back with Barnett in charge??
what?
That's the rumor, Barnett interm coach and Coach D coming on board in some role
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aualum06 wrote:This should already have been done, MSU has been caught unprepared again even though they knew for at least a month this was comingHeat Miser wrote:
This. I assume Haller can't/won't/shouldn't do this unilaterally and certainly doesn't want to do it half assed. Gotta talk to the president and possibly the BoT. It's Sunday. People have families. Setup the calls. Have the calls. Craft a press release. Talk to coach jerk off. Talk to the staff and whomever will be interim coach. Talk to the players. Address questions/comments/concerns with everybody. This shit takes time.
A Month? Way longer. They should have had lawyers, board members priests rabies musicians exorcists goblins Sherpa’s all in meetings regarding this and asking wtf do we do. Then, just like that secret committee Haller put together to agree to a home game in Detroit, come to an agreement and had it ready to go.
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I think that’s just coming from this dude. Pretty sus. He seems to sometimes know some stuff but other times is just making things up. Grain of saltaualum06 wrote:Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
what?
That's the rumor, Barnett interm coach and Coach D coming on board in some role
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