Baltimore citizens are frustrated

Heat Miser wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

I've missed the news accounts of day 2 or day 3 of the riots there.

You know a little thing called the American Revolution started with some rioting and a massacre?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Another simple change that would cure the itch to riot - machine gun the early rioters.

It would serve as a deterrent to anyone else contemplating joining them in the streets.

It won't happen since this country lost the spine for that long ago.

I agree that asking the government to murder its own citizens is a very good idea..

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so have any police officers died while in protestor custody yet?

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I agree that asking the government to murder its own citizens is a very good idea..

I just don't get how people can actually believe or say this shit.

Heat Miser wrote:You know a little thing called the American Revolution started with some rioting and a massacre?

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I agree that asking the government to murder its own citizens is a very good idea..

I just don't get how people can actually believe or say this shit.

LooseGoose wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:You know a little thing called the American Revolution started with some rioting and a massacre?

Preceded by years of discussion/debate among intelligent men. Please point out for the men today's toilet paper looters are listening to? Is Al Sharpton today's Thomas Jefferson? Jesse Jackson as John Adams? Toure as Samuel Adams?

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:


I just don't get how people can actually believe or say this shit.

He doesn't. Hes just messing with you. That guy is usually pretty rational.

Unless he has completely lost his mind. Which is possible I suppose

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I agree that asking the government to murder its own citizens is a very good idea..

I just don't get how people can actually believe or say this shit.

well, I can't either. But when people are blinded by hate, paranoia and rage, it essentially alters the way the human mind works... and saying things like "the government should murder its own citizens" somehow sounds like a viable option to them.

Heat Miser wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
well, I can't either. But when people are blinded by hate, paranoia and rage, it essentially alters the way the human mind works... and saying things like "the government should murder its own citizens" somehow sounds like a viable option to them.

I wonder if the "mow 'em down & let God sort 'em out" doctrine applies to white college kids in East Lansing throwing bagels? Where exactly is the line? 1 rock thrown? 10 rocks? 10 rocks by 1 person? 1 rock each by 10 people? How about a car on fire? But what if it's after winning a World Series? Who get's to decide? Fuck it. When in doubt, take 'em out!

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:


I just don't get how people can actually believe or say this shit.

He doesn't. Hes just messing with you. That guy is usually pretty rational.

Unless he has completely lost his mind. Which is possible I suppose

maybe... can never be too sure with the right wing fringe, though.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Another simple change that would cure the itch to riot - machine gun the early rioters.

It would serve as a deterrent to anyone else contemplating joining them in the streets.

It won't happen since this country lost the spine for that long ago.

I agree that asking the government to murder its own citizens is a very good idea..

LooseGoose wrote:Do you trace the decline of civilization in the United States to 1913 or 1920?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:Do you trace the decline of civilization in the United States to 1913 or 1920?

January 20th, 2009

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
January 20th, 2009

+1

I like the speed of your reply. You didn't need to think about it. I also like the consistency of your message. I also like that you used a link instead of stopping short and saying "I trace it to Obama." 

Really quality work. I'm proud of you.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
+1

I like the speed of your reply. You didn't need to think about it. I also like the consistency of your message. I also like that you used a link instead of stopping short and saying "I trace it to Obama." 

Really quality work. I'm proud of you.

thanks - when you really think about it, I am a lottery pick at message board posting.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
thanks - when you really think about it, I am a lottery pick at message board posting.

Go Green bro. Go Green.

...So why loot stores. Why burn them to the ground?

You'd have to grow up a young black male in a place like Ferguson to grasp why these stores are the immediate, prime targets for looting and flames. There are 365 days in every year, and on every day of every year of your life you've had to walk past these cathedrals of consumer culture and see things you don't have and can't get because you have no money, no real education, and very little hope of ever being employed...

Heat Miser wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
well, I can't either. But when people are blinded by hate, paranoia and rage, it essentially alters the way the human mind works... and saying things like "the government should murder its own citizens" somehow sounds like a viable option to them.

I wonder if the "mow 'em down & let God sort 'em out" doctrine applies to white college kids in East Lansing throwing bagels? Where exactly is the line? 1 rock thrown? 10 rocks? 10 rocks by 1 person? 1 rock each by 10 people? How about a car on fire? But what if it's after winning a World Series? Who get's to decide? Fuck it. When in doubt, take 'em out!

steveschneider wrote:

@ Robert Sakamino

tTito wrote:Things are starting to heat up again. They must have woken up early for this special occasion.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

tTito wrote:Things are starting to heat up again. They must have woken up early for this special occasion.

So you're inferring that they don't have jobs, no? Maybe that is a step in the right direction.

tTito wrote:Things are starting to heat up again. They must have woken up early for this special occasion.

steveschneider wrote:Poor Freddie Gray, what a horrible way to go.

Many suspect that Gray was the victim of a “Nickel Ride”, a horrific police torture tactic where a suspect is handcuffed and placed in the back of a police van without restraints, and driven recklessly around town by police officers. This practice has also been called a “Rough Ride” or a “Cowboy Ride.”
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/freddie-grays-death-reveals-dark-history-nickel-rides-police-van-torture/#f8RsmdAShCOvfPR7.99

steveschneider wrote:Poor Freddie Gray, what a horrible way to go.

Many suspect that Gray was the victim of a “Nickel Ride”, a horrific police torture tactic where a suspect is handcuffed and placed in the back of a police van without restraints, and driven recklessly around town by police officers. This practice has also been called a “Rough Ride” or a “Cowboy Ride.”
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/freddie-grays-death-reveals-dark-history-nickel-rides-police-van-torture/#f8RsmdAShCOvfPR7.99

Last year, Nickel Rides became notorious in Philadelphia, after a court case revealed that police were using this tactic as a witness-free way to punish unruly, uncooperative, or arrogant suspects – without ever laying a hand on them. For rogue police, it was a literal way to deliver “street justice.”

The practice was exposed through the lawsuit of a man named James McKenna, who was awarded $490,000 after he was able to prove in court that he was intentionally injured during his ride in a police van.

Baltimore itself also has a dark history of police van torture. In fact, Baltimore Police have paid out millions of dollars in settlements to victims who were critically injured during rides in police vans. In 2012, a woman from Baltimore named Christine Abbott sued police after she was badly injured during a bumpy ride in the back of a police van.

That same year, the death of Anthony Anderson was ruled a homicide, he too died of injuries sustained while riding in a police van.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Poor Freddie Gray, what a horrible way to go.

Many suspect that Gray was the victim of a “Nickel Ride”, a horrific police torture tactic where a suspect is handcuffed and placed in the back of a police van without restraints, and driven recklessly around town by police officers. This practice has also been called a “Rough Ride” or a “Cowboy Ride.”
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/freddie-grays-death-reveals-dark-history-nickel-rides-police-van-torture/#f8RsmdAShCOvfPR7.99

What an incredibly stupid thing for the police to do. Especially considering the current climate in the country. 

Of course, that only backs up the fact that part of the problem is that cops are largely made up of fucking morons who could barely get through high school. I would not expect them to consider the potential ramifications before doing something so stupid.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
What an incredibly stupid thing for the police to do. Especially considering the current climate in the country. 

Of course, that only backs up the fact that part of the problem is that cops are largely made up of fucking morons who could barely get through high school. I would not expect them to consider the potential ramifications before doing something so stupid.

Shouldn't we be paying cops more?

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Poor Freddie Gray, what a horrible way to go.

Many suspect that Gray was the victim of a “Nickel Ride”, a horrific police torture tactic where a suspect is handcuffed and placed in the back of a police van without restraints, and driven recklessly around town by police officers. This practice has also been called a “Rough Ride” or a “Cowboy Ride.”
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/freddie-grays-death-reveals-dark-history-nickel-rides-police-van-torture/#f8RsmdAShCOvfPR7.99

What an incredibly stupid thing for the police to do. Especially considering the current climate in the country. 

Of course, that only backs up the fact that part of the problem is that cops are largely made up of fucking morons who could barely get through high school. I would not expect them to consider the potential ramifications before doing something so stupid.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Poor Freddie Gray, what a horrible way to go.

Many suspect that Gray was the victim of a “Nickel Ride”, a horrific police torture tactic where a suspect is handcuffed and placed in the back of a police van without restraints, and driven recklessly around town by police officers. This practice has also been called a “Rough Ride” or a “Cowboy Ride.”
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/freddie-grays-death-reveals-dark-history-nickel-rides-police-van-torture/#f8RsmdAShCOvfPR7.99

What an incredibly stupid thing for the police to do. Especially considering the current climate in the country. 

Of course, that only backs up the fact that part of the problem is that cops are largely made up of fucking morons who could barely get through high school. I would not expect them to consider the potential ramifications before doing something so stupid.

Shouldn't we be paying cops more?

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
What an incredibly stupid thing for the police to do. Especially considering the current climate in the country. 

Of course, that only backs up the fact that part of the problem is that cops are largely made up of fucking morons who could barely get through high school. I would not expect them to consider the potential ramifications before doing something so stupid.

Shouldn't we be paying cops more?

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
What an incredibly stupid thing for the police to do. Especially considering the current climate in the country. 

Of course, that only backs up the fact that part of the problem is that cops are largely made up of fucking morons who could barely get through high school. I would not expect them to consider the potential ramifications before doing something so stupid.

Shouldn't we be paying cops more?

Yes. That will potentially attract individuals who are worthy of the trust and power that we give to cops. Not these ex JV quarterbacks that we currently hire.

Heat Miser wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Shouldn't we be paying cops more?

They make reasonable money. And if they don't feel they're paid enough & that beating/killing the perps is justified, then they need to find a new career. Nobody's forcing them to be a cop. Truth is some of them get a bit tipsy off the power trip & take it too far sometimes.

tTito wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Shouldn't we be paying cops more?

Who's we?