Re: North Korea: Preventative attack or learn to live with a nuclear north?

by **Floyd Robertson** Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:25 am

NKorea missile fear sets pre-emptive strike debate in Japan

Japan is debating whether to develop a limited pre-emptive strike capability and buy cruise missiles — ideas that were anathema in the pacifist country before the North Korea missile threat. With revisions to Japan's defense plans underway, ruling party hawks are accelerating the moves, and some defense experts say Japan should at least consider them.

After being on the backburner in the ruling party for decades, a possibility of pre-emptive strike was formally proposed to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe by his party's missile defense panel in March, prompting parliamentary debate, though somewhat lost steam as Abe apparently avoided the divisive topic after seeing support ratings for his scandal-laden government plunge.

North Korea's test-firing Tuesday of a missile, which flew over Japan and landed in the northern Pacific Ocean, has intensified fear and reignited the debate.

Debate is healthy.

by **Floyd Robertson** Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:34 pm

CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 6m6 minutes ago
NEW: North Korea says it has developed a hydrogen bomb which can be mounted on a new long-range missile, Pyongyang's state media claims.

Hmmm

by **tGreenWay** Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:41 pm

One step closer to getting its head blown off.

by **kingstonlake** Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:25 pm

There gotta be a way we can detonate one of NK's nuclear bombs remotely or via some sort of cyber attack.

by **tGreenWay** Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:38 pm

I just love how Donnie threatens to cut off trade with any nation doing business with North Korea, as if we'd sever ties with China. The man is an idiot.

by **NigelUno** Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:20 pm

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Part 2

by **GRR Spartan** Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:41 pm

Has Trump doubled down on the fury part yet?

by **NigelUno** Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:16 am

I thought we had missile defense systems over there.

by **tGreenWay** Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:23 pm

South Korea says it is assembling an assassination squad to take out Kim. Of course, I expect our own POTUS to tweet any time now that he intends to do it first, better, and at less cost.
https://usat.ly/2y4Zq9K

by **kingstonlake** Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:09 pm

tGreenWay wrote:South Korea says it is assembling an assassination squad to take out Kim. Of course, I expect our own POTUS to tweet any time now that he intends to do it first, better, and at less cost.
https://usat.ly/2y4Zq9K

He's going to get China to pay for it. And if they don't he will shut down the United States government.

by **tGreenWay** Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:31 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:South Korea says it is assembling an assassination squad to take out Kim. Of course, I expect our own POTUS to tweet any time now that he intends to do it first, better, and at less cost.
https://usat.ly/2y4Zq9K

He's going to get China to pay for it. And if they don't he will shut down the United States government.

We have our very own Dear Leader. North Korea: Preventative attack or learn to live with a nuclear north? - Page 4 1494614055

by **Floyd Robertson** Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:16 am

R.I.P. Stanislav Petrov

Otherwise known as the guy whose actions allow us to be here contemplating pre-emptive action against DPRK.

Apparently died in May, and not widely reported until now.

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:34 am

Trump to the UN.

Jonathan Karl‏ @jonkarl 1m1 minute ago
"The US has great strength & patience, but if it is forced to defend itself...we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea"

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:37 am

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the sexual predator makes Kim Jong Un appear to be sane and calculated.

by **GRR Spartan** Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:01 pm

Count on a real estate mogul to start yapping about nuclear war. The war wimp in The White House and his pro-life supporters must put a discount on the lives of the 9 million people living in Seoul.

On a side note, Ivanka and Jared quietly canceled their planned trip to China last week.

Does anyone think China is going to sit on its hands if even one US nuclear device is used?

by **DWags** Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:07 pm

Have any of you guys thought perhaps, just like Lex Luther, Donald Trump has a bunch of land in Arizona or mid california, and is hoping to start a nuclear war with North Korea to maybe set off the San Andreas fault? I'm just throwing that out on the stoop to see if the cat licks it up.

by **GRR Spartan** Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:53 pm

DWags wrote:Have any of you guys thought perhaps, just like Lex Luther, Donald Trump has a bunch of land in Arizona or mid california, and is hoping to start a nuclear war with North Korea to maybe set off the San Andreas fault? I'm just throwing that out on the stoop to see if the cat licks it up.

That's why Donald Jr dropped his Secret Service detail. He doesn't want the gvernment knowing where he's headed 12 hours before the sirens start.

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:50 pm

Here is an interesting bit of military strategy toward deterrence and containment as the next step beyond economic sanctions.

Op-Ed: How to neutralize North Korea's nuclear threat without starting a world war

by **kingstonlake** Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:25 pm

I mean, I can't really disagree with what he said. If FORCED to defend ourself or allies we will be forced to destroy NK. The guy is on a fast track to potentially detonate a nuke. Can't fuck around with that shit is he goes crazy.

by **DWags** Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:43 pm

kingstonlake wrote:I mean, I can't really disagree with what he said. If FORCED to defend ourself or allies we will be forced to destroy NK. The guy is on a fast track to potentially detonate a nuke. Can't fuck around with that shit is he goes crazy.

Truth be told, kind of the same here too. Always thought Reagan was more of the cowboy type, likely to start something. Trump has been pretty much provoked here. I wish he'd keep his yap shut and not say things and doshitback channel, but the guy seems crazy enough to attach a nuke to his icbm's

by **NigelUno** Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:34 pm

kingstonlake wrote:I mean, I can't really disagree with what he said. If FORCED to defend ourself or allies we will be forced to destroy NK. The guy is on a fast track to potentially detonate a nuke. Can't fuck around with that shit is he goes crazy.

I think the problem is that it feeds into Rocket Man's brand of crazy.

The fire and fury comment seemed to escalate the issue...not help.

And we seem unwilling (for whatever reason) to shoot his missiles out of the sky.

by **GRR Spartan** Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:24 pm

Trump speaks based on poll numbers on a daily basis.

His base thinks being a tough guy is a great quality right up until the sky starts to glow.

Most of us have been punched in the nose a few times in our lives. Neither Trump or Kim Jong Un have ever punched and been punched back. Now both bullies are playing chicken with nukes.

Bad news for the world. Meanwhile Russia is having some of the largest war games since Putin was elected to power.

by **Floyd Robertson** Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:42 pm

Is testing an H-bomb in international water an acceptable thing?

by **NigelUno** Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:42 pm

Trump: Tillerson 'wasting his time' negotiating with North Korea

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man...

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
...Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!
10:31 AM - Oct 1, 2017

Rolling Eyes

by **NigelUno** Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:14 pm

Trump on North Korea: 'Only one thing will work'

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by **GRR Spartan** Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:19 am

I have a solution.

Since Trump hasn't nominated an ambassador to South Korea, let's name Ivanka and Jared to the post in Seoul. With his daughter, son-in-law and grandkids in harm's way he'll probably shut the fuck up.

by **NigelUno** Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:13 pm

So NK can now reach the East Coast with a missile, and Trump's response was to insult the guy on twitter...

Goose! Come back and tell me how Trump is making this better!

by Guest Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:13 pm

Andrew Sarega @AndrewSarega 9h9 hours ago

Obama destroyed 4 countries by endlessly bombing them and gets a Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump ends a 60 year old conflict without firing a single shot and Democrats are SILENT.

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by **NigelUno** Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:15 pm

The conflict is over?

Just like that?

Because...twitter?

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by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:22 pm

NigelUno wrote:The conflict is over?

Just like that?

Because...twitter?

Andrew Sarega is a house candidate in a vacant California district. He’s clearly going for the “I’m captain trump” vote that gets people like Goose’s jollies off but seems to be proving to be a bad idea for non trump people so far. Best of luck to him as the current city councilman wades into foreign affairs by declaring things that are ludicrous way ahead of time.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:13 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Andrew Sarega @AndrewSarega 9h9 hours ago

Obama destroyed 4 countries by endlessly bombing them and gets a Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump ends a 60 year old conflict without firing a single shot and Democrats are SILENT.

by **tGreenWay** Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:44 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
NigelUno wrote:The conflict is over?

Just like that?

Because...twitter?

Andrew Sarega is a house candidate in a vacant California district. He’s clearly going for the “I’m captain trump” vote that gets people like Goose’s jollies off but seems to be proving to be a bad idea for non trump people so far. Best of luck to him as the current city councilman wades into foreign affairs by declaring things that are ludicrous way ahead of time.

Sweet. If it’s vacant, there’s nobody around to vote for him.

by **tGreenWay** Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:00 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Andrew Sarega @AndrewSarega 9h9 hours ago

Obama destroyed 4 countries by endlessly bombing them and gets a Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump ends a 60 year old conflict without firing a single shot and Democrats are SILENT.

**Conveniently forgets how Connies called for increased bombing PLUS boots on the ground in those four campaigns.

**Conveniently forgets Connies went APOPLECTIC when Obama Administration floated idea of bilateral talks.

Hypocrisy makes it so much more convenient to criticize others.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:59 am

I trust Kim Jong Un more than I trust the racist, bigoted sexual predator.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:00 am

LooseGoose wrote:Andrew Sarega @AndrewSarega 9h9 hours ago

Obama destroyed 4 countries by endlessly bombing them and gets a Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump ends a 60 year old conflict without firing a single shot and Democrats are SILENT.

poor 'ol Goose.. you do you, dude. North Korea: Preventative attack or learn to live with a nuclear north? - Page 4 969504605

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:04 am

NigelUno wrote:Trump: Tillerson 'wasting his time' negotiating with North Korea

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
...Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!
10:31 AM - Oct 1, 2017

by **Robert J Sakimano** Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:20 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Trump: Tillerson 'wasting his time' negotiating with North Korea

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
...Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!
10:31 AM - Oct 1, 2017

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by **NigelUno** Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:56 am

He fired Tillerson, right?

It's hard to keep track...

by **GRR Spartan** Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:34 pm

Anyone tell Loose Goose that President Obama no longer lives in The White House and President Xi just got invited to the table?

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