Re: Looks like another mass shooting

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 6:27

steveschneider wrote:I thought the police report said the shooter killed himself?

he did.

But the NRA - America's terrorist organization - has to pretend that they're actually on the side of America.

And, of course, some people actually believe that.

by **NigelUno** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 7:45

Trump dismisses question on extreme vetting for gun ownership

"If you did what you're suggesting there would have been no difference three days ago, and you might not have had that very brave person who happened to have a gun in his truck and shoot him, and hit him and neutralize him," Trump said...

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:24

NigelUno wrote:Trump dismisses question on extreme vetting for gun ownership

"If you did what you're suggesting there would have been no difference three days ago, and you might not have had that very brave person who happened to have a gun in his truck and shoot him, and hit him and neutralize him," Trump said...

shocked that the "pro-life" 'christian' sexual predator believes the NRA's version of events. After all, he wants/needs terror attacks in America to continue to pad his bank account.

by Guest Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:31

Robert J Sakimano wrote:So a good guy killed a bad guy with a gun? Yay NRA!!!!

Oh, wait.. so the bad guy killed 26 people first?

Oh wait.. so the good guy with a gun didn't actually kill the bad guy with a gun, after all?

Ummm.. thoughts and prayers.

Didn't kill him just shot him twice and stopped him.

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP
BREAKING: Official: Shooter had three gunshot wounds, one self-inflicted to head; two from armed citizen, one leg and one torso.

by Guest Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:32

Oh and here's how original Bob's "thoughts and prayers" schtick is....basically a parrot for the Dems as usual.

by **DWags** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:33

Until gun violence becomes personal to the majority of Americans, nothing will change. I do believe, in my lifetime, gun violence will have become personal to a majority of Americans.

by Guest Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:33

And while we're here let's stick a little blame on Obama.....and those that want new laws can talk to me about enforcing existing laws.

.@tedcruz: "In 2010, 48,000 felons & fugitives...illegally tried to purchase guns, [the Obama administration] prosecuted only 44 of them."

by **InTenSity** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:36

LooseGoose wrote:And while we're here let's stick a little blame on Obama.....and those that want new laws can talk to me about enforcing existing laws.

.@tedcruz: "In 2010, 48,000 felons & fugitives...illegally tried to purchase guns, [the Obama administration] prosecuted only 44 of them."

WTF does that mean? They went in to a store, there was a background check and then they were denied? Which means it worked like it was supposed to? I'm confused. Or is this like saying there were 1.2 million babies butchered last year.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 10:58

I am glad we have someone on the swill to represent the guns. What would we do without Sandy hook, Vegas, Orlando, And Texas? Will someone think about the guns?!

PS laws will not work. They do not work.

by **NigelUno** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 11:17

LooseGoose wrote:And while we're here let's stick a little blame on Obama.....and those that want new laws can talk to me about enforcing existing laws.

.@tedcruz: "In 2010, 48,000 felons & fugitives...illegally tried to purchase guns, [the Obama administration] prosecuted only 44 of them."

But...don't you want a new law making bump stocks illegal?

Or have you changed your mind?

Thanks in advance for your response.

(Just kidding about that last part...I don't really think you'll respond.)

by **NigelUno** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 11:18

LooseGoose wrote:And while we're here let's stick a little blame on Obama.....and those that want new laws can talk to me about enforcing existing laws.

.@tedcruz: "In 2010, 48,000 felons & fugitives...illegally tried to purchase guns, [the Obama administration] prosecuted only 44 of them."

How many has the Trump administration prosecuted?

by **GRR Spartan** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 11:48

The USAF failed to report spousal abuse which means USAF didn't have adequate procedures to make sure their reporting systems automatically dump into the Federal data base.

Since its budget time, should we expect the Congress to propose additional spending to make sure the US military along all states and territories have an improved IT pathway to quickly report all convictions?

The same majority in Congress has not increased ATF funding to audit gun dealer sales log books or require gun dealers to upload sales data to the ATF.

But we will always have thoughts and prayers.

by **Rocinante** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 12:15

Now that goose has found his angle, he'll stick around for a bit. Here's mine: Regardless of the fact that a "good guy" with a gun shot him. He was able to go through 15 magazines of 30 rounds each. Nobody stopped this shooting. This was a failure of the system in place, but a more serious acceptance of the reality of this epidemic is needed so that there's a concerted effort to make these databases complete and also to get these assault style rifles off the streets. Outlaw these fucking things now.

by **NigelUno** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 12:27

Rocinante wrote:Now that goose has found his angle, he'll stick around for a bit. Here's mine: Regardless of the fact that a "good guy" with a gun shot him. He was able to go through 15 magazines of 30 rounds each. Nobody stopped this shooting. This was a failure of the system in place, but a more serious acceptance of the reality of this epidemic is needed so that there's a concerted effort to make these databases complete and also to get these assault style rifles off the streets. Outlaw these fucking things now.

Goose won't stick around. There are too many questions in the thread he won't address. He gone.

by **NigelUno** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 12:31

The Trump (and NRA) angle that somehow (with gun control/vetting) the law abiding citizen wouldn't have had a gun to shoot the guy (and save 100's of lives) is laughable.

by **steveschneider** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 12:32

LooseGoose wrote:Oh and here's how original Bob's "thoughts and prayers" schtick is....basically a parrot for the Dems as usual.

I've been wishing upon a star. The results seem about the same as praying.

by **Rocinante** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 12:40

Just so everyone's aware, he came out of the church because he was finished. The "good guy with the gun" didn't go in. Nor should he have. This kind of bullshit shouldn't happen. Because these rifles and high capacity mags should be illegal.

by **steveschneider** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 13:01

Michael Moore's Tweet from yesterday:

As of yesterday, Columbine is no longer one of the 10 worst mass shootings in US history. 3 of the top 5 are all in the last year and a half.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 14:14

LooseGoose wrote:Oh and here's how original Bob's "thoughts and prayers" schtick is....basically a parrot for the Dems as usual.

it's amazing how effective "thoughts and prayers" are.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 14:15

LooseGoose wrote:And while we're here let's stick a little blame on Obama.....and those that want new laws can talk to me about enforcing existing laws.

.@tedcruz: "In 2010, 48,000 felons & fugitives...illegally tried to purchase guns, [the Obama administration] prosecuted only 44 of them."

shocking that republicans are blaming the colored boy.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 14:18

Rocinante wrote:Now that goose has found his angle, he'll stick around for a bit. Here's mine: Regardless of the fact that a "good guy" with a gun shot him. He was able to go through 15 magazines of 30 rounds each. Nobody stopped this shooting. This was a failure of the system in place, but a more serious acceptance of the reality of this epidemic is needed so that there's a concerted effort to make these databases complete and also to get these assault style rifles off the streets. Outlaw these fucking things now.

love how the magic formula for America's terrorist organization is 26 people dead is something for them to chalk up as a victory.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 14:19

steveschneider wrote:
Michael Moore's Tweet from yesterday:

As of yesterday, Columbine is no longer one of the 10 worst mass shootings in US history. 3 of the top 5 are all in the last year and a half.

welcome to the sexual predator's America.

by **kingstonlake** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 14:42

GRR Spartan wrote:The USAF failed to report spousal abuse which means USAF didn't have adequate procedures to make sure their reporting systems automatically dump into the Federal data base.

Since its budget time, should we expect the Congress to propose additional spending to make sure the US military along all states and territories have an improved IT pathway to quickly report all convictions?

The same majority in Congress has not increased ATF funding to audit gun dealer sales log books or require gun dealers to upload sales data to the ATF.

But we will always have thoughts and prayers.

Not sure, but Trump is going to ask congress for 4 billion for his thumb wrestling match with rocket man.

by **Turtleneck** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 14:57

Turtleneck wrote:1) People are not deterred by laws. If they want to commit a crime, they will find a way regardless of the law. Additional laws are useless. Does that mean women will not be deterred by abortion laws, that they will find a way to have an abortion regardless of the law, and that additional abortion laws are useless?

2) People are not deterred by laws. If they want to commit a crime, they will find a way regardless of the law. Remind us again about the legal status of automatic weapons in the U.S., and then remind us again about how many people have been murdered by automatic weapons?

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:1) People are not deterred by laws. If they want to commit a crime, they will find a way regardless of the law. Additional laws are useless. Does that mean women will not be deterred by abortion laws, that they will find a way to have an abortion regardless of the law, and that additional abortion laws are useless?

2) People are not deterred by laws. If they want to commit a crime, they will find a way regardless of the law. Remind us again about the legal status of automatic weapons in the U.S., and then remind us again about how many people have been murdered by automatic weapons?

Lol. You will not get a response.

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:So a good guy killed a bad guy with a gun? Yay NRA!!!!

Oh, wait.. so the bad guy killed 26 people first?

Oh wait.. so the good guy with a gun didn't actually kill the bad guy with a gun, after all?

Ummm.. thoughts and prayers.

Didn't kill him just shot him twice and stopped him.

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP
BREAKING: Official: Shooter had three gunshot wounds, one self-inflicted to head; two from armed citizen, one leg and one torso.

LooseGoose wrote:Oh and here's how original Bob's "thoughts and prayers" schtick is....basically a parrot for the Dems as usual.

LooseGoose wrote:And while we're here let's stick a little blame on Obama.....and those that want new laws can talk to me about enforcing existing laws.

.@tedcruz: "In 2010, 48,000 felons & fugitives...illegally tried to purchase guns, [the Obama administration] prosecuted only 44 of them."

Good call, OTPT. Three posts today and no response.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 15:17

Turtleneck he has also yet to apologize for posting fake ass unverified bullshit pulled from twitter assholes who made shit up even after someone in thread said “lot of fake shit out there.”

Honestly, we gotta do something about that. Every single one of these threads in the first two pages somebody is posting some insane bullshit because they want to believe that the perpetrator is part of something like antifa that currently fills the boogeyman role in their head. To do that, then not even apologize for spreading bullshit, is the action of someone with no integrity whatsoever.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 15:36

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Turtleneck he has also yet to apologize for posting fake ass unverified bullshit pulled from twitter assholes who made shit up even after someone in thread said “lot of fake shit out there.”

Honestly, we gotta do something about that. Every single one of these threads in the first two pages somebody is posting some insane bullshit because they want to believe that the perpetrator is part of something like antifa that currently fills the boogeyman role in their head. To do that, then not even apologize for spreading bullshit, is the action of someone with no integrity whatsoever.

All done by someone who has a thread dedicated to “media bias”. Shit is rich. Don’t expect a lot from trolls, bro.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:01

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Turtleneck he has also yet to apologize for posting fake ass unverified bullshit pulled from twitter assholes who made shit up even after someone in thread said “lot of fake shit out there.”

Honestly, we gotta do something about that. Every single one of these threads in the first two pages somebody is posting some insane bullshit because they want to believe that the perpetrator is part of something like antifa that currently fills the boogeyman role in their head. To do that, then not even apologize for spreading bullshit, is the action of someone with no integrity whatsoever.

All done by someone who has a thread dedicated to “media bias”. Shit is rich. Don’t expect a lot from trolls, bro.

Oh I don’t expect anything from them, but what should we do with that shit next time? Delete it? It was quite obviously bullshit at the time.

by **Turtleneck** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:03

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

All done by someone who has a thread dedicated to “media bias”. Shit is rich. Don’t expect a lot from trolls, bro.

Oh I don’t expect anything from them, but what should we do with that shit next time? Delete it? It was quite obviously bullshit at the time.

Do not delete. Resist the temptation.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:06

Turtleneck wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Oh I don’t expect anything from them, but what should we do with that shit next time? Delete it? It was quite obviously bullshit at the time.

Do not delete. Resist the temptation.

Why? Spreading of fake ass bullshit is a big fuckin problem. I mean, the swill is obviously pretty big potatoes in the grand scheme of things, and the poster ends up looking like a pretty huge idiot once it’s pointed out- but I don’t really want to encourage that kind of garbage garbage shit around here

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:06

Looking forward to the "thoughts and prayers" and "let's not politicize a tragedy" from the right the next time a brown person commits an act of terror, killing Americans.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:09

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Do not delete. Resist the temptation.

Why? Spreading of fake ass bullshit is a big fuckin problem. I mean, the swill is obviously pretty big potatoes in the grand scheme of things, and the poster ends up looking like a pretty huge idiot once it’s pointed out- but I don’t really want to encourage that kind of garbage garbage shit around here

fake news is a real thing. It gave the sexual predator the election last year.

However, people have the right to be stupid, gullible, misinformed and manipulated.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:13

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Why? Spreading of fake ass bullshit is a big fuckin problem. I mean, the swill is obviously pretty big potatoes in the grand scheme of things, and the poster ends up looking like a pretty huge idiot once it’s pointed out- but I don’t really want to encourage that kind of garbage garbage shit around here
fake news is a real thing. It gave the sexual predator the election last year.

However, people have the right to be stupid, gullible, misinformed and manipulated.

Well then the rest of you guys need to step up your ridicule game to be honest. Both of the last two threads i was the only one that was calling that shit out. I’m not standing by while some prick posts bullshit lies from white supremacists.

by **kingstonlake** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:27

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:fake news is a real thing. It gave the sexual predator the election last year.

However, people have the right to be stupid, gullible, misinformed and manipulated.

Well then the rest of you guys need to step up your ridicule game to be honest. Both of the last two threads i was the only one that was calling that shit out. I’m not standing by while some prick posts bullshit lies from white supremacists.

Easy now.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:32

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:fake news is a real thing. It gave the sexual predator the election last year.

However, people have the right to be stupid, gullible, misinformed and manipulated.

Well then the rest of you guys need to step up your ridicule game to be honest. Both of the last two threads i was the only one that was calling that shit out. I’m not standing by while some prick posts bullshit lies from white supremacists.

you might be the first person in the history of persons to imply that I should spend more time mocking and ridiculing those that I deem worthy of it.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 16:42

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Well then the rest of you guys need to step up your ridicule game to be honest. Both of the last two threads i was the only one that was calling that shit out. I’m not standing by while some prick posts bullshit lies from white supremacists.
you might be the first person in the history of persons to imply that I should spend more time mocking and ridiculing those that I deem worthy of it.

I want a medal

by **GRR Spartan** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 18:40

Connies either are wimpy victims being picked on or pointing fingers at others.

Ted Cruz is another war wimp like the hero in The White House.

Maybe Ted hasn't had enough constituents die to quit blaming others.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 19:15

I changed my mind. Fuck all y’all.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/texas-shooter-conspiracy-theories_us_5a01ed2be4b092053058499e

You spread this kind of bullshit when it’s obvious bullshit then I’m taking some kind of action. I’m not allowing this trash reporting to be spread as news if I can help it. Deal with it.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 19:40

GRR Spartan wrote:Connies either are wimpy victims being picked on or pointing fingers at others.

Ted Cruz is another war wimp like the hero in The White House.

Maybe Ted hasn't had enough constituents die to quit blaming others.

yep. I enjoy mocking the fragile little snowflake republicans. They get their feelings hurt so easily, they're a natural target.

by **Turtleneck** Tue 7 Nov 2017 - 21:00

Pentagon has known of crime reporting lapses for 20 years
https://www.stripes.com/pentagon-has-known-of-crime-reporting-lapses-for-20-years-1.496652

by **steveschneider** Wed 8 Nov 2017 - 7:36

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I changed my mind. Fuck all y’all.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/texas-shooter-conspiracy-theories_us_5a01ed2be4b092053058499e

You spread this kind of bullshit when it’s obvious bullshit then I’m taking some kind of action. I’m not allowing this trash reporting to be spread as news if I can help it. Deal with it.

Targeting the same audience that bought into the Comet Ping Pong Pizza story. Trumps base has such a disdain for mainstream media they can be fed all sorts of horse shit and they’ll believe it. They trust fake newsstories on Facebook before they’ll ever trust a credible story from the New York Times or Washington Post. I’ve tried to send them credible links that dispute their false stories and they flat out reject the mainstream media story every time.

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