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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 07:48

Biggest cry baby in all of sports. Humble brag but I never owned a piece of clothing with his logo on it.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2020-04-27, 08:19

I concur with this post. He's a little bitch.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 08:27

And fuck right off to that idiot Scottie Pippen
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Post by kingstonlake 2020-04-27, 08:33

He was really good at basketball.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2020-04-27, 08:48

kingstonlake wrote:He was really good at basketball.

And really good at being a little bitch.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 08:49

kingstonlake wrote:He was really good at basketball.

He was. He also had every ref and a commissioner helping him out along the way. Bulls down by 6 end of the game with a few minutes he’d either get every call or get away with contact. His last shot vs Utah is symbolic of his career.
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Post by Senior Dickfist 2020-04-27, 09:07

Growing up a Pistons fan, I agree, fuck Mike! Purely, because he was not on my team. Fuck him*.



*Sports are the one place in life I don't care about being rational. Fuck Mike, fuck the Bulls and all Chicago sports teams.
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Post by kingstonlake 2020-04-27, 09:17

steveschneider wrote:Biggest cry baby in all of sports. Humble brag but I never owned a piece of clothing with his logo on it.

Should I reevaluate my love for Tom Izzo?
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 09:24

Senior Dickfist wrote:Growing up a Pistons fan, I agree, fuck Mike!  Purely, because he was not on my team.  Fuck him*.  



*Sports are the one place in life I don't care about being rational.  Fuck Mike, fuck the Bulls and all Chicago sports teams.

I hated Chelios and Eddie Belfour.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 09:25

Lebron > Jordan
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2020-04-27, 09:36

steveschneider wrote:
Senior Dickfist wrote:Growing up a Pistons fan, I agree, fuck Mike!  Purely, because he was not on my team.  Fuck him*.  



*Sports are the one place in life I don't care about being rational.  Fuck Mike, fuck the Bulls and all Chicago sports teams.

I hated Chelios and Eddie Belfour.

I never liked Chelios for the Wings. Easily my least favorite Wing ever. Happy when he scored, but not happy that he was the one who scored.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 09:51

MiamiSpartan wrote:
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I hated Chelios and Eddie Belfour.

I never liked Chelios for the Wings. Easily my least favorite Wing ever. Happy when he scored, but not happy that he was the one who scored.

The one sports franchise we had in our state that could have become a Yankees/Patriots/Celtics level dynasty and the league had to go off and fuck it all up. I think a dominant Red Wings would have been better for the sport.
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Post by Senior Dickfist 2020-04-27, 09:55

MiamiSpartan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I hated Chelios and Eddie Belfour.

I never liked Chelios for the Wings. Easily my least favorite Wing ever. Happy when he scored, but not happy that he was the one who scored.

As a kid, I hated Chelios, simply because he played for Chicago. My buddy and I were sitting at The Riv having a nice day beer when we heard that Chelios was traded to the Wings. We were dumbfounded, but I loved the trade. Now Chelios is back to his roots in Chicago, so fuck him.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2020-04-27, 09:57

Little perspective from the old Piston's beat writer T Foster.

https://terryfoster.blog/2020/04/27/espn-flubs-bad-boys-walkout-story/
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Post by kingstonlake 2020-04-27, 10:17

MiamiSpartan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I hated Chelios and Eddie Belfour.

I never liked Chelios for the Wings. Easily my least favorite Wing ever. Happy when he scored, but not happy that he was the one who scored.

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2020-04-27, 10:18

kingstonlake wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Biggest cry baby in all of sports. Humble brag but I never owned a piece of clothing with his logo on it.

Should I reevaluate my love for Tom Izzo?

He wears the right colors though.
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Post by tGreenWay 2020-04-27, 10:32

Good, good, embrace your hate.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 11:00

I never thought of Tom Izzo as a cry baby.
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Post by CORNER BLITZ 2020-04-27, 11:13

I don't like Jordan because he's a crybaby.... Then posts this

steveschneider wrote:Lebron > Jordan


Does not compute
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Post by Cameron 2020-04-27, 11:16

Pistons fans are hilarious.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 11:23

Kareem > Jordan

I'd have him at fourth behind Kobe.
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Post by DWags 2020-04-27, 11:26

Whatever you guys think about him, or his level of greatness, the venom that you pistons guys still, to this day, have for him is cool as hell.  As I said in another thread, Detroit wings and pistons fans got a decade of just being able to go watch a hockey match or basketball game and have this evil nemesis that you wanted nothing less than death of.  The AVs and the Bulls.  That kid of stuff doesn't seem like it's happened in the last couple of decades in sports.  Maybe the Red Sox and Yankees when the Sox came back in the series.  But that's fun.  It's what makes sports.  

Me?  I think Jordan was the best ever. A freak.  Not shaking hands?  Meh, who cares?  The pistons got their 2 hour ESPN tribute already.  They got to tell their story.   It was fun to watch that too.  This is Jordan, who won three times as many and launched an Industry that went crazy.  Hell, there was a group of investors that would just invest in what he started endorsing.  So, now it's the bulls turn.  I think they could have gone deeper into the hate between the two franchises, but it was probably good enough.

Edit: And John Sally? Fuck him, the mistake ESPN made was having him on after. He's way too nice and thoguthful. Needed Laimbeer, Mahorn or Thomas. Interview them afterward SVP. John Sally wouldn't say shit if he had a mouthful. Get Laimbeer on. That would have been way more fun.
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Post by duffy munn 2020-04-27, 11:47

I will never understand how Isiah gets snubbed when people talk about the all-time greats. Was he an asshole? Maybe but pound for pound is a top 10 player ever. His performance on one leg in game 6 of the 88 finals was the best I've ever seen. the guy took down Magic and Jordan in their primes.

But for some reason nobody wants to talk about Zeke when they talk about Magic, Bird and MJ. Shit, we hear more about guys like Barkley. Leaving Thomas off the dream team was criminal. John Stockton? Give me a fucking break. When they met after the dream team was announced Isiah destroyed him.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 11:53

duffy munn wrote:I will never understand how Isiah gets snubbed when people talk about the all-time greats. Was he an asshole? Maybe but pound for pound is a top 10 player ever. His performance on one leg in game 6 of the 88 finals was the best I've ever seen. the guy took down Magic and Jordan in their primes.

But for some reason nobody wants to talk about Zeke when they talk about Magic, Bird and MJ. Shit, we hear more about guys like Barkley. Leaving Thomas off the dream team was criminal. John Stockton? Give me a fucking break. When they met after the dream team was announced Isiah destroyed him.

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Post by kingstonlake 2020-04-27, 12:12

steveschneider wrote:I never thought of Tom Izzo as a cry baby.

For the most part I agree. But if you take a look at his sideline demeanor with officials he’s basically crying for calls. Much the same way Jordan did. It’s called getting an edge wherever you can. Both did/do it. I’m ok with it.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2020-04-27, 12:18

duffy munn wrote:I will never understand how Isiah gets snubbed when people talk about the all-time greats. Was he an asshole? Maybe but pound for pound is a top 10 player ever. His performance on one leg in game 6 of the 88 finals was the best I've ever seen. the guy took down Magic and Jordan in their primes.

But for some reason nobody wants to talk about Zeke when they talk about Magic, Bird and MJ. Shit, we hear more about guys like Barkley. Leaving Thomas off the dream team was criminal. John Stockton? Give me a fucking break. When they met after the dream team was announced Isiah destroyed him.


I really think it's because the NBA and large portions of the media hated the Pistons. Hated them for crashing the Lakers/Celtics party (more so than the 76ers or the Rockets with their brief attempts), hated them for the tough defensive style that stifled flare players, and hated them for the Jordan Rules that kept their latest darling in check. So they aren't going to give the leader of that team the credit either.
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Post by NigelUno 2020-04-27, 12:24

steveschneider wrote:Kareem > Jordan

I'd have him at fourth behind Kobe.


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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 12:30

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Kareem > Jordan

I'd have him at fourth behind Kobe.


Bro

Kareem, Lebron, Kobe, Jordan all belong in the discussion no? Multiple rings, top of the all time scoring list.
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Post by DWags 2020-04-27, 12:35

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:


Bro

Kareem, Lebron, Kobe, Jordan all belong in the discussion no? Multiple rings, top of the all time scoring list.

Which one of those listed didn’t need help from other superstars on their team to win a championship?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-04-27, 12:56

definitely the GOAT as far as I'm concerned.. you don't have to like it.

1. Mike
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
4. Magic
5. Bird
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Post by DWags 2020-04-27, 13:02

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It's why I thought they should have had Laimbeer on SVP after the doc last night, not John Sally. Would have been way more entertaining.
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Post by Cameron 2020-04-27, 13:03

duffy munn wrote:I will never understand how Isiah gets snubbed when people talk about the all-time greats. Was he an asshole? Maybe but pound for pound is a top 10 player ever. His performance on one leg in game 6 of the 88 finals was the best I've ever seen. the guy took down Magic and Jordan in their primes.

But for some reason nobody wants to talk about Zeke when they talk about Magic, Bird and MJ. Shit, we hear more about guys like Barkley. Leaving Thomas off the dream team was criminal. John Stockton? Give me a fucking break. When they met after the dream team was announced Isiah destroyed him.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/chris_paul_vs_isiah_thomas.htm
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Post by aualum06 2020-04-27, 13:04

Cameron wrote:
duffy munn wrote:I will never understand how Isiah gets snubbed when people talk about the all-time greats. Was he an asshole? Maybe but pound for pound is a top 10 player ever. His performance on one leg in game 6 of the 88 finals was the best I've ever seen. the guy took down Magic and Jordan in their primes.

But for some reason nobody wants to talk about Zeke when they talk about Magic, Bird and MJ. Shit, we hear more about guys like Barkley. Leaving Thomas off the dream team was criminal. John Stockton? Give me a fucking break. When they met after the dream team was announced Isiah destroyed him.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/chris_paul_vs_isiah_thomas.htm

Yeah Paul can't even suck Isaiah's cock let alone be in the same atmosphere as a ball player
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Post by aualum06 2020-04-27, 13:04

Robert J Sakimano wrote:definitely the GOAT as far as I'm concerned.. you don't have to like it.

1. Mike
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
4. Magic
5. Bird

1. Magic
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3. MJ
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Post by Cameron 2020-04-27, 13:06

aualum06 wrote:
Cameron wrote:

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/chris_paul_vs_isiah_thomas.htm

Yeah Paul can't even suck Isaiah's cock let alone be in the same atmosphere as a ball player

Whatever you say, fella.

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Post by DWags 2020-04-27, 13:06

I ignore any list without Oscar Robertson in the top five.
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Post by Rocinante 2020-04-27, 13:11

1.Larry Bird
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Kevin Mc-Kale
4. John Stockton
5. Kenny Sailors

Signed- the guys who just want to buy seeds and go to their 2nd home.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2020-04-27, 13:11

DWags wrote:
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It's why I thought they should have had Laimbeer on SVP after the doc last night, not John Sally. Would have been way more entertaining.


Though I didn't watch it, in general I can imagine what you're talking about, as I see Salley more like the modern athletes that I mentioned in the other thread where everyone feels like they need to be buddies with everyone on the other team.

Speaking of that, the Isaiah/Magic friendship and pre-game kiss was cool in it's rareness, but it was also cool how quickly that went away once things tipped over (I still remember their fight in one game). I suppose that my affection for both also made it seem cool.
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Post by steveschneider 2020-04-27, 13:11

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As coach:
2000 Los Angeles Clippers (assistant)
2002 Oklahoma Storm
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Career highlights and awards

6× NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988)
2× NBA Finals MVP (1971, 1985)
6× NBA Most Valuable Player (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980)
19× NBA All-Star (1970–1977, 1979–1989)
10× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1986)
5× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1985)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1974, 1975, 1979–1981)
6× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970, 1971, 1976–1978, 1984)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1970)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1970)
2× NBA scoring champion (1971, 1972)
NBA rebounding champion (1976)
4× NBA blocks leader (1975, 1976, 1979, 1980)
No. 33 retired by Milwaukee Bucks
No. 33 retired by Los Angeles Lakers
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
3× NCAA champion (1967–1969)
3× NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player (1967–1969)
3× National college player of the year (1967–1969)
3× Consensus first-team All-American (1967–1969)
No. 33 retired by UCLA Bruins
3× First-team Parade All-American (1963–1965)
2× Mr. Basketball USA (1964, 1965)
Presidential Medal of Freedom (2016)

As head coach:

USBL champion (2002)

As assistant coach:

2× NBA champion (2009, 2010)

Career NBA statistics
Points 38,387 (24.6 ppg)
Rebounds 17,440 (11.2 rpg)
Assists 5,660 (3.6 apg)
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