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Post by tGreenWay 5/2/2020, 5:42 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Jordan is in your head, bro.

One of the few productive sports threads we've had on this board in a while and sure enough you can count on someone to come around and try to shut it down. Yeah, Jordan is in my head but guess what? My reaction to Jordan is in your head so take that.


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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 5/2/2020, 5:44 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I try not to hate on greatness. Usually comes off as bitter and jealous.

My memory is foggy but weren't you hating on Tiger Woods in one of the golf threads? Fuck Michael Jordan - Page 4 2599972566

Maybe. Key word there is “try”. Always trying to improve myself. My revisionist history memory wants to remember it was asking what the fascination was with his tourney win/comeback. I’m a little young or didn’t pay attention to golf to cherish Tiger’s era. Either way. Tiger greatness. MJ greatness. I’ve learned my lesson.

Also, after typing this i feel like i just turned into d wags.
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Post by steveschneider 5/2/2020, 5:50 pm

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steveschneider wrote:

My memory is foggy but weren't you hating on Tiger Woods in one of the golf threads? Fuck Michael Jordan - Page 4 2599972566

Maybe. Key word there is “try”. Always trying to improve myself. My revisionist history memory wants to remember it was asking what the fascination was with his tourney win/comeback. I’m a little young or didn’t pay attention to golf to cherish Tiger’s era. Either way. Tiger greatness. MJ greatness. I’ve learned my lesson.

Also, after typing this i feel like i just turned into d wags.

It's no big deal, I often rooted against the Patriots and the Cowboys dynasty. I'm pretty sure everyone hates the Yankees. IMO sometimes it's perfectly alright to hate greatness.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 7:10 pm

Shutting down the conversation? I just feel bad that MJ ruined your childhood.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 5/2/2020, 7:22 pm

LeBron is soft compared to MJ. Physically superior as an athlete, more skilled as a basketball player but the mental component makes Jordan >>>> LeBron. Talk about it. What do you think? Give us a call. 248.539.9797
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 7:38 pm

I have always thought of Jordan as the best player and James as the most skilled for the exact reason you describe. Although I don't think you can discount Magic and his ability to play all five positions. I think Stephon Marybury's live internet shows were the best impromptu internet shows by any player in history.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 5/2/2020, 7:59 pm

As much of a cliche as that hot take has become, I also believe it to be true.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 8:12 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:As much of a cliche as that hot take has become, I also believe it to be true.

The Stephon Marbury stuff? Dude had a deal with Steve and Barry's. Steve and Barry's!
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 8:13 pm

I think this threads needs to become a Stephon Marbury appreciation thread.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 5/2/2020, 8:16 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I try not to hate on greatness. Usually comes off as bitter and jealous.

I'm all for hatred in a sports context (emphasis on sports context). Sports are about emotions, rivalries, etc. It's part of what makes it fun, at least for me. But to each their own.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 8:16 pm

Starbury time!



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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 5/2/2020, 8:18 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:As much of a cliche as that hot take has become, I also believe it to be true.

The Stephon Marbury stuff? Dude had a deal with Steve and Barry's. Steve and Barry's!

Yes, the Starbury take. I think he's still playing in China. I mean probably not right now.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 8:19 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I try not to hate on greatness. Usually comes off as bitter and jealous.

I'm all for hatred in a sports context (emphasis on sports context). Sports are about emotions, rivalries, etc. It's part of what makes it fun, at least for me. But to each their own.

I prefer to think rationally in a sports context. That is more fun. But to each their own.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 8:20 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

The Stephon Marbury stuff? Dude had a deal with Steve and Barry's. Steve and Barry's!

Yes, the Starbury take. I think he's still playing in China. I mean probably not right now.

Coaching. Retired a year or two ago in China, and then became a head coach of a Chinese team.
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Post by tGreenWay 5/2/2020, 8:24 pm

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steveschneider wrote:

My memory is foggy but weren't you hating on Tiger Woods in one of the golf threads? Fuck Michael Jordan - Page 4 2599972566

Maybe. Key word there is “try”. Always trying to improve myself. My revisionist history memory wants to remember it was asking what the fascination was with his tourney win/comeback. I’m a little young or didn’t pay attention to golf to cherish Tiger’s era. Either way. Tiger greatness. MJ greatness. I’ve learned my lesson.

Also, after typing this i feel like i just turned into d wags.



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Post by steveschneider 5/2/2020, 10:38 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I try not to hate on greatness. Usually comes off as bitter and jealous.

I'm all for hatred in a sports context (emphasis on sports context). Sports are about emotions, rivalries, etc. It's part of what makes it fun, at least for me. But to each their own.

Agreed, can’t imagine sitting on my couch thinking boy those Wolverines don’t bother me. I’m above it. Feel bad for anyone that hates that guy in the khakis acting like a huge jack ass.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/2/2020, 10:54 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

The Stephon Marbury stuff? Dude had a deal with Steve and Barry's. Steve and Barry's!

Yes, the Starbury take. I think he's still playing in China. I mean probably not right now.

There is a statue of him in Beijing. This is I did not know.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 5/2/2020, 11:10 pm

That statue would be much better if he were jumping over driftwood, imho.
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Post by aualum06 5/2/2020, 11:57 pm

Got to watch starbury drop 40 at staples

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Post by steveschneider 5/3/2020, 9:32 am

Just confirming that I still sports hate UofM, Jordan, Duke and the New England Patriots.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/3/2020, 9:46 am

Steve, you might have already read this...don't know. Maybe you're Dave...don't know.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/michael-jordan-last-dance/
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Post by DWags 5/3/2020, 10:01 am

Turtleneck wrote:Steve, you might have already read this...don't know. Maybe you're Dave...don't know.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/michael-jordan-last-dance/

Holy cow, can’t tell at all that the author is a knicks fan that got his dick kicked by Jordan’s bulls.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 5/3/2020, 10:26 am

Do you guys remember when post baseball MJ lost in the playoffs to Penny and Shaq and everyone assumed their run was over and the Magic were going to be the new superpower?
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Post by steveschneider 5/3/2020, 10:43 am

Turtleneck wrote:Steve, you might have already read this...don't know. Maybe you're Dave...don't know.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/michael-jordan-last-dance/

Sounds like criticism of your hero sets you off. Nobody is perfect and everyone is entitled to their point of view. Having six rings doesn't make some one a perfect human being. Also, count me in the camp that believes Lebron > than Jordan both on the court and off the court.
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Post by steveschneider 5/3/2020, 10:45 am

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Steve, you might have already read this...don't know. Maybe you're Dave...don't know.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/michael-jordan-last-dance/

Holy cow, can’t tell at all that the author is a knicks fan that got his dick kicked by Jordan’s bulls.

Knicks fans actually really like Jordan. They'd stand and cheer for him at the end of a game as a way to tip their cap to him.
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Post by aualum06 5/3/2020, 11:09 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Do you guys remember when post baseball MJ lost in the playoffs to Penny and Shaq and everyone assumed their run was over and the Magic were going to be the new superpower?

Yeah then they melted down against the rockets and Shaq regrets it now but left for the money
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Post by DWags 5/3/2020, 12:13 pm

aualum06 wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Do you guys remember when post baseball MJ lost in the playoffs to Penny and Shaq and everyone assumed their run was over and the Magic were going to be the new superpower?

Yeah then they melted down against the rockets and Shaq regrets it now but left for the money

Yep. If Penny and Shaq stayed together and you add a third they would have had multiple titles.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/3/2020, 12:14 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Steve, you might have already read this...don't know. Maybe you're Dave...don't know.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/michael-jordan-last-dance/

Sounds like criticism of your hero sets you off. Nobody is perfect and everyone is entitled to their point of view. Having six rings doesn't make some one a perfect human being. Also, count me in the camp that believes Lebron > than Jordan both on the court and off the court.

I was just posting a link that I thought you would like. Calm down. I like Zirin. You probably would too.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 5/3/2020, 9:37 pm

"Even though I hate him.."

Wow if Zeke was being sincere in that interview I posted, that's gotta hurt. I guess I don't know when the interview in the doc was filmed vs. Isiah's dinner with MJ, but that is some harsh shit 30 years later.
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Post by aualum06 5/3/2020, 9:56 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:"Even though I hate him.."

Wow if Zeke was being sincere in that interview I posted, that's gotta hurt. I guess I don't know when the interview in the doc was filmed vs. Isiah's dinner with MJ, but that is some harsh shit 30 years later.

MJ still hating just means the Pistons still own him
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Post by DWags 5/4/2020, 2:53 am

aualum06 wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:"Even though I hate him.."

Wow if Zeke was being sincere in that interview I posted, that's gotta hurt. I guess I don't know when the interview in the doc was filmed vs. Isiah's dinner with MJ, but that is some harsh shit 30 years later.

MJ still hating just means the Pistons still own him


Well they did have a .750 winning percentage against him in playoff series. (I think they won 3 of 4). That still has to kill him.
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Post by steveschneider 5/4/2020, 9:05 am

Haven’t watched this series does it live up to the hype? For a guy that is accused of having Jordan in his head I’ve found I have zero interest in watching. Same with the Tiger King.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/4/2020, 9:44 am

DWags wrote:
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MJ still hating just means the Pistons still own him


Well they did have a .750 winning percentage against him in playoff series. (I think they won 3 of 4). That still has to kill him.

For as competitive as he is, that probably does eat at him. It is odd that after six rings and the nod for greatest player all time, he would be this bitter about the Pistons. But it is probably different from a player point of view than a fan point of view. We didnt actually have to live it.
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Post by Turtleneck 5/4/2020, 12:29 pm

Steve, you send this guy any DMs?

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Post by aualum06 5/4/2020, 1:37 pm

I guess the one thing I didn't know was how much they hated Jerry Krause
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 5/4/2020, 2:04 pm

Turtleneck wrote:Steve, you send this guy any DMs?

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Post by steveschneider 5/4/2020, 2:14 pm

Sounds like the only take away is that Jordan is still a big cry baby, he's petty and they really didn't like Krause.

Lebron and Kareem both > Jordan
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Post by Rocinante 5/4/2020, 3:12 pm

steveschneider wrote:Haven’t watched this series does it live up to the hype? For a guy that is accused of having Jordan in his head I’ve found I have zero interest in watching. Same with the Tiger King.

It’s worth a watch Steve. I don’t think it was disrespectful to the Pistons at all. Basically said they made Jordan and the bulls who they were during that run. There was one thing about them leaving the court without shaking hands that was kind of dumb but whatever. They were assholes. They were proud of it.
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Post by Rocinante 5/4/2020, 3:12 pm

And also your Lebron Kareem take is real shitty man.
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Post by steveschneider 5/4/2020, 3:15 pm

Rocinante wrote:And also your Lebron Kareem take is real shitty man.

I'm comfortable with it. Kareem scored more points, has just as many rings and was more dominate in college. I know people loved the fact one of them stuck his tongue when he dunked the ball but I find Kareem's resume far more impressive.

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