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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-13, 13:48

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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2020-05-13, 14:12

steveschneider wrote:AOC endorses Joe

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1260607989070786560?s=21

United party! cheers

I read this morning that Joe and Bernie put her on the climate committee, so that probably put her over the hump.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-13, 14:15

Floyd Robertson wrote:
steveschneider wrote:AOC endorses Joe

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1260607989070786560?s=21

United party! cheers

I read this morning that Joe and Bernie put her on the climate committee, so that probably put her over the hump.

She might not even win her primary, the days of AOC and the squad may be coming to a close. I do think she represents her district well and is a good voice to have in the house but I think she's over estimated her importance in American politics.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2020-05-13, 15:23

Here’s a pretty good example of why you see the results you do in 2016 primary vs general votes re: Sanders for those that can’t quite grapple with things in the abstract and need a solid example to hold on to. It shows why the oft cited criticism of sanders people around here is super off base from reality. There were a lot of people like this guy then that there simply were not this year.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2020/05/05/michigan-capitol-building-protest-picture/3084192001/

My post doesn’t make any sense unless you read the article. It’s about halfway in.
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Post by kingstonlake on 2020-05-13, 16:01

So he was really mad that a couple protesters wouldn't leave the chamber when asked, had to be forcibly removed, kicked the sergeant at arms repeatedly, have deemed this next protest "Judgement Day" and decided to go all tough guy on the S of A doing his job.

Cool story, Bernie Bro from New Hudson.


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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-13, 16:05

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Here’s a pretty good example of why you see the results you do in 2016 primary vs general votes re: Sanders for those that can’t quite grapple with things in the abstract and need a solid example to hold on to. It shows why the oft cited criticism of sanders people around here is super off base from reality. There were a lot of people like this guy then that there simply were not this year.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2020/05/05/michigan-capitol-building-protest-picture/3084192001/

My post doesn’t make any sense unless you read the article. It’s about halfway in.

Cameron probably has the link and I know you don't like polls but one that came out in this primary showed a decent chunk of Sanders supporters were going to vote for Trump.

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Post by kingstonlake on 2020-05-13, 16:11

steveschneider wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Here’s a pretty good example of why you see the results you do in 2016 primary vs general votes re: Sanders for those that can’t quite grapple with things in the abstract and need a solid example to hold on to. It shows why the oft cited criticism of sanders people around here is super off base from reality. There were a lot of people like this guy then that there simply were not this year.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2020/05/05/michigan-capitol-building-protest-picture/3084192001/

My post doesn’t make any sense unless you read the article. It’s about halfway in.

Cameron probably has the link and I know you don't like polls but one that came out in this primary showed a decent chunk of Sanders supporters were going to vote for Trump.


Whitmers fault.  She declared a national emergency after she ignored it originally, completely dropped the ball on testing, guidelines, and disregarded science.  Can't blame them for voting for Trump after all she's done to hurt us!



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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-13, 16:13

Good news is I think this party is more unified this go around. I got my mail in info for the June primary. Going to vote for Biden this June and November.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-05-13, 16:15

steveschneider wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Here’s a pretty good example of why you see the results you do in 2016 primary vs general votes re: Sanders for those that can’t quite grapple with things in the abstract and need a solid example to hold on to. It shows why the oft cited criticism of sanders people around here is super off base from reality. There were a lot of people like this guy then that there simply were not this year.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2020/05/05/michigan-capitol-building-protest-picture/3084192001/

My post doesn’t make any sense unless you read the article. It’s about halfway in.

Cameron probably has the link and I know you don't like polls but one that came out in this primary showed a decent chunk of Sanders supporters were going to vote for Trump.


God damn it, steve, now I have to go digging...
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-13, 16:20

Cameron wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Cameron probably has the link and I know you don't like polls but one that came out in this primary showed a decent chunk of Sanders supporters were going to vote for Trump.


God damn it, steve, now I have to go digging...

It's an old poll at this point. I actually think the party is doing a good job of unifying and I only brought it up for a chuckle.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2020-05-13, 16:23

Cameron wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Cameron probably has the link and I know you don't like polls but one that came out in this primary showed a decent chunk of Sanders supporters were going to vote for Trump.


God damn it, steve, now I have to go digging...

It’s fine, it’s really not necessary. You don’t have to.

The point isn’t that there’s a bunch of evil sanders supporters out there who would prefer trump to Biden because they didn’t get their way. Though, that’s how it’s painted. How it’s painted is stupid, shortsighted, and wrong.

The point is that there are a bunch of people like this, who under no circumstance are democrats, would never vote for a democrat, would have voted for trump even if sanders won the primary, that voted for sanders in the past. That doesn’t mean they they are progressive votes that are pissy about sanders not winning. Not by a long shot.

Just to be even more crystal clear for the msnbc cable news crowd out there- if sanders had won the primary, that poll would look very close to the same. You’d STILL have people that voted for sanders that vote for trump in the general. And a lot of them.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-13, 17:38

I saw he gave AOC some position on the environment today and she endorsed him. I suspect his vp will either be Warren or Harris (both who are for medicare for all). I think Biden has done a better job than HC did at reaching out to the progressive wing. I think he's setting them up to have a good future in the party. I also think that Trump is so awful the issues we had unifying the party won't be as significant as it was in 2016.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-14, 22:05

The main thing I like about Biden's campaign these days is I don't even have to think about it. He will be a great set it and forget it type of president. I miss those days. Last thing I want is another goddamn attention whore in the White House.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-05-14, 23:23

steveschneider wrote:The main thing I like about Biden's campaign these days is I don't even have to think about it. He will be a great set it and forget it type of president. I miss those days. Last thing I want is another goddamn attention whore in the White House.

For fuck's sake...

America is a stupid country.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2020-05-15, 07:35

Cameron wrote:
steveschneider wrote:The main thing I like about Biden's campaign these days is I don't even have to think about it. He will be a great set it and forget it type of president. I miss those days. Last thing I want is another goddamn attention whore in the White House.

For fuck's sake...

America is a stupid country.

I look forward to when some of these dipshits forget about politics and stop weighing in tbh Cameron
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-05-15, 08:08

Biden needs to pick a VP.

Preferably one that has a pulse.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-15, 08:09

Biden is like Seinfeld it’s a campaign about nothing and it’s very successful. Americans love nothing. It’s brilliant.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-15, 08:10

NigelUno wrote:Biden needs to pick a VP.

Preferably one that has a pulse.

He’s widened his lead. Whatever he’s doing is working.
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-05-15, 08:32

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Biden needs to pick a VP.

Preferably one that has a pulse.

He’s widened his lead. Whatever he’s doing is working.

It's May. National polls are (mostly) irrelevant in an electoral election. Polls didn't mean crap in 2016.

It's certainly possible that Biden can sit back while Trump implodes. Seems like getting another voice would be a good idea.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-15, 09:54

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

He’s widened his lead. Whatever he’s doing is working.

It's May.  National polls are (mostly) irrelevant in an electoral election.  Polls didn't mean crap in 2016.  

It's certainly possible that Biden can sit back while Trump implodes.  Seems like getting another voice would be a good idea.  

Call me old fashioned, crazy or whatever but I still believe in the polls. I think even in 2016 with standard deviation the polls weren't that far off. It's funny the whole way through I've seen 'Biden is too old', 'Biden can't string a thought together', 'Biden needs to win over the youth', 'Biden needs to release his records from the University of wherever' and in spite of all the arm chair pundits that be hating Biden keeps blowing it out. I think Biden really just needs to keep being Biden it's working.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-05-15, 12:09

I'm not convinced that it's Biden being Biden that's working. I suspect it's more Trump being Trump that explains the polling numbers.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-15, 12:12

Cameron wrote:I'm not convinced that it's Biden being Biden that's working. I suspect it's more Trump being Trump that explains the polling numbers.

He keeps winning (had a historic Super Tuesday) and widening the lead. Everyone keeps saying he’s going to lose. He must be doing something right!
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Post by kingstonlake on 2020-05-15, 12:30

Cameron wrote:I'm not convinced that it's Biden being Biden that's working. I suspect it's more Trump being Trump that explains the polling numbers.

For the most part Trump doesn’t have the socialist dog whistle to blow. He and Russia were so looking forward to it
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-15, 13:15

Hmm

https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-says-theres-no-way-in-hell-hed-ever-pardon-trump-as-president

I’m sure his critics will come around in a few days ‘Biden needs to do something’. I think he does a lot the good news is he just makes it look so easy to the layman they think he ain’t doing jack shit.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-05-15, 13:56

I wouldn't get too wrapped up in polls - that's exactly what the mainstream media and Russia wants you to do. They want Americans to become relaxed and complacent.

Wait until mid-October, look at trends. Look at the older demographic that votes, suburban white women in suburban Cincinnati, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix and parts of Florida.

and then still don't believe/trust them.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2020-05-18, 09:23

And now for something downright scary.

Freed by Court Ruling, Republicans Step Up Effort to Patrol Voting

WASHINGTON — Six months before a presidential election in which turnout could matter more than persuasion, the Republican Party, the Trump campaign and conservative activists are mounting an aggressive national effort to shape who gets to vote in November — and whose ballots are counted.

Its premise is that a Republican victory in November is imperiled by widespread voter fraud, a baseless charge embraced by President Trump, but repeatedly debunked by research. Democrats and voting rights advocates say the driving factor is politics, not fraud — especially since Mr. Trump’s narrow win in 2016 underscored the potentially crucial value of depressing turnout by Democrats, particularly minorities.

Will they be passing out brown shirts for their patrol?
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Post by GRR Spartan on 2020-05-18, 12:12

You know your political party and it’s message are in trouble when the election is 6 months out and you realize your path to victory requires voter suppression.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-05-18, 13:59

Floyd Robertson wrote:And now for something downright scary.

Freed by Court Ruling, Republicans Step Up Effort to Patrol Voting

WASHINGTON — Six months before a presidential election in which turnout could matter more than persuasion, the Republican Party, the Trump campaign and conservative activists are mounting an aggressive national effort to shape who gets to vote in November — and whose ballots are counted.

Its premise is that a Republican victory in November is imperiled by widespread voter fraud, a baseless charge embraced by President Trump, but repeatedly debunked by research. Democrats and voting rights advocates say the driving factor is politics, not fraud — especially since Mr. Trump’s narrow win in 2016 underscored the potentially crucial value of depressing turnout by Democrats, particularly minorities.

Will they be passing out brown shirts for their patrol?
been saying it for months.

they're not going to let Americans vote. And, the ones that they do allow to vote, they'll delegitimize the process and the results.

they have Russia, the mainstream media, the DOJ and the SCOTUS.. they're not going to allow Americans to vote.

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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-18, 15:28

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:And now for something downright scary.

Freed by Court Ruling, Republicans Step Up Effort to Patrol Voting



Will they be passing out brown shirts for their patrol?
been saying it for months.

they're not going to let Americans vote. And, the ones that they do allow to vote, they'll delegitimize the process and the results.

they have Russia, the mainstream media, the DOJ and the SCOTUS.. they're not going to allow Americans to vote.


There's going to be next level cheating and voter suppression no question about it. Also, even if Biden is declared the winner in November you can count on a whole bunch of shit from then until January. It's going to be a rough 8 months buckle up.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-18, 15:29

Also, just want to say in six months I'm going to vote for Joe Biden and it will be an incredibly simple choice for me to make.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-05-18, 15:32

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
been saying it for months.

they're not going to let Americans vote. And, the ones that they do allow to vote, they'll delegitimize the process and the results.

they have Russia, the mainstream media, the DOJ and the SCOTUS.. they're not going to allow Americans to vote.


There's going to be next level cheating and voter suppression no question about it. Also, even if Biden is declared the winner in November you can count on a whole bunch of shit from then until January. It's going to be a rough 8 months buckle up.
yep.

I still think there is a good chance the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator goes on to be with his heavenly father before election day. It's obese, greasy.. filthy. Disgusting. He lives on fast food, is a drug addict. Clearly has various other diseases.

so, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if his heavenly father called him home to be with the other christians within the next 6-8 months.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-18, 15:34

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

There's going to be next level cheating and voter suppression no question about it. Also, even if Biden is declared the winner in November you can count on a whole bunch of shit from then until January. It's going to be a rough 8 months buckle up.
yep.

I still think there is a good chance the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator goes on to be with his heavenly father before election day. It's obese, greasy.. filthy. Disgusting. He lives on fast food, is a drug addict. Clearly has various other diseases.

so, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if his heavenly father called him home to be with the other christians within the next 6-8 months.

Did you see his stupid kid the one that looks like beavis say the virus is a hoax and it would be gone when Trump wins in November? I think he said it on that one Fox show with that raging alcoholic judge that spews out misinformation and bigotry.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-05-18, 15:35

steveschneider wrote:
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yep.

I still think there is a good chance the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator goes on to be with his heavenly father before election day. It's obese, greasy.. filthy. Disgusting. He lives on fast food, is a drug addict. Clearly has various other diseases.

so, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if his heavenly father called him home to be with the other christians within the next 6-8 months.

Did you see his stupid kid the one that looks like beavis say the virus is a hoax and it would be gone when Trump wins in November? I think he said it on that one Fox show with that raging alcoholic judge that spews out misinformation and bigotry.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-05-18, 15:54

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Did you see his stupid kid the one that looks like beavis say the virus is a hoax and it would be gone when Trump wins in November? I think he said it on that one Fox show with that raging alcoholic judge that spews out misinformation and bigotry.
I think it was posted in another thread. The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 4 502811600

I think his other brother (the one that looks like Butt Head) was high on drugs on another show on Fox. I think it was the one show with the white blonde lady that gave the sieg heil salute at the republican convention.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote: I think it was posted in another thread. The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 4 502811600

I think his other brother (the one that looks like Butt Head) was high on drugs on another show on Fox. I think it was the one show with the white blonde lady that gave the sieg heil salute at the republican convention.
between the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and his mutant family.. all amplified by the mainstream media, it's no wonder we've evolved into a third world country.

Saw earlier that we make up 4.3 % of the worlds population.. and 29% of those who have tested positive for the virus.

And what's funny, is that we aren't even testing people. I'd say if America wasn't a shithole country and we had basic medical services, we'd be closer to 35% of the total. The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 4 502811600
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