Re: Elon Musk and Twitter

by **steveschneider** 11/26/2022, 10:56 am

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/25/1139180002/twitter-loses-50-top-advertisers-elon-musk

Failure. Can’t imagine what the damage will be to Tesla as well. Krugman is right Musk is no longer cool. Hes trying to be cool again by being politically edgy and is just ending up a raging asshole.

by RQA 11/26/2022, 11:26 am

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/26/the_data_show_twitter_is_far_from_dying_148523.html

the media is awash with coverage lamenting the site’s apparently imminent demise, a look at the actual data on Twitter’s usage suggests that the platform is far from dead.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/26/2022, 1:19 pm

RQA wrote:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/26/the_data_show_twitter_is_far_from_dying_148523.html

the media is awash with coverage lamenting the site’s apparently imminent demise, a look at the actual data on Twitter’s usage suggests that the platform is far from dead.

On line media lives and dies via advertising dollars, so that the user base is rotating from desirable ad consumers to something else is not good news for the business.

by AvgMSUJoe 11/26/2022, 5:29 pm

Just need a viable alternative, then Twitter gone.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/26/2022, 5:59 pm

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/25/1139180002/twitter-loses-50-top-advertisers-elon-musk

by **Rocinante** 11/26/2022, 11:48 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just need a viable alternative, then Twitter gone.

https://post.news/?r=dNSZt

Many people are saying this is about to blow up.

by AvgMSUJoe 11/27/2022, 7:17 am

Rocinante wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just need a viable alternative, then Twitter gone.

https://post.news/?r=dNSZt

Many people are saying this is about to blow up.

When MSU's sports feed switch, I'll switch.

Shit, I don't need or even want the "comment section" of Twitter, its a news aggregator for me. (I'd rather they have a "turn off comments" option on each post)

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 11/27/2022, 8:06 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Rocinante wrote:

https://post.news/?r=dNSZt

Many people are saying this is about to blow up.

When MSU's sports feed switch, I'll switch.

Shit, I don't need or even want the "comment section" of Twitter, it’s a news aggregator for me. (I'd rather they have a "turn off comments" option on each post)

That’s a really good idea.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 8:36 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
When MSU's sports feed switch, I'll switch.

Shit, I don't need or even want the "comment section" of Twitter, it’s a news aggregator for me. (I'd rather they have a "turn off comments" option on each post)

That’s a really good idea.

I do not, have never, and will never have a twitter account, nor for that matter, Facebook.

Posting as a news feed on this board is like putting a screenshot of tNYT on here for me.

by **steveschneider** 11/28/2022, 8:41 am

I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 8:48 am

steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

Tesla has fit & finish issues & reliability issues, which in not much of a surprise for any engineer who has worked in the automotive industry. Sexy bells and whistles are fun, but it is a real grind to maintain the more noticed by the typical buyer features.

by **NigelUno** 11/28/2022, 8:51 am

steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

She probably should have thought that one through a little better.

Maybe she'll trade in the VW for a Ford EV.

by **steveschneider** 11/28/2022, 8:59 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

Tesla has fit & finish issues & reliability issues, which in not much of a surprise for any engineer who has worked in the automotive industry. Sexy bells and whistles are fun, but it is a real grind to maintain the more noticed by the typical buyer features.

Seems like they have a Nazi and Pepe frog issue as well.

by **steveschneider** 11/28/2022, 9:03 am

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

She probably should have thought that one through a little better.

Maybe she'll trade in the VW for a Ford EV.

She’s leading the charge…my prius is still going strong (amazing car) but when the time comes my gut is telling me to go with A Ford. I always do my research and I’m sure by the time my Prius reaches the end of its life there’s going to be some incredible options. The goal by then is to have a heat pump, house insulated really well, and solar to power the house/car. Goal is to Go Green in more ways than one.

by RQA 11/28/2022, 9:08 am

steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

Another liberal who loves nonunion made cars. Right Bob?

by **NigelUno** 11/28/2022, 9:25 am

RQA wrote:
steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

Another liberal who loves nonunion made cars. Right Bob?

Do you know if her car was made in a nonunion plant?

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 9:26 am

NigelUno wrote:
RQA wrote:

Another liberal who loves nonunion made cars. Right Bob?

Do you know if her car was made in a nonunion plant?

The only non-union plant that VW has is the one in the US. VW wanted it unionized.

by **NigelUno** 11/28/2022, 9:32 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Do you know if her car was made in a nonunion plant?

The only non-union plant that VW has is the one in the US. VW wanted it unionized.

I think most non-union plants are in red states. Good on her for supporting those economies (if she did buy one made in the US).

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 9:35 am

NigelUno wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

The only non-union plant that VW has is the one in the US. VW wanted it unionized.

I think most non-union plants are in red states. Good on her for supporting those economies (if she did buy one made in the US).

The ONLY non-Unionized Plant VW has, not by their choice, is in Tennessee. An electric VW probably was made in Germany or China.

by **NigelUno** 11/28/2022, 9:41 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think most non-union plants are in red states. Good on her for supporting those economies (if she did buy one made in the US).

The ONLY non-Unionized Plant VW has, not by their choice, is in Tennessee. An electric VW probably was made in Germany or China.

I think they've been building EVs in Chattanooga for about a month. No idea if she bought one of those (not that it really matters that much to dispute rQa's nonsense).

I don't think VW's Chinese plants are union. But, I could be wrong.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 11/28/2022, 9:50 am

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

She probably should have thought that one through a little better.

Maybe she'll trade in the VW for a Ford EV.

She’s leading the charge…my prius is still going strong (amazing car) but when the time comes my gut is telling me to go with A Ford. I always do my research and I’m sure by the time my Prius reaches the end of its life there’s going to be some incredible options. The goal by then is to have a heat pump, house insulated really well, and solar to power the house/car. Goal is to Go Green in more ways than one.

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by **steveschneider** 11/28/2022, 9:58 am

It’s nice to see RQA stand with labor instead of upper management and billionaires.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 9:58 am

With the exception of the United States, workers at all of its major locations are represented in the Global Works Council and local trade union bodies. VW Group has a tradition and practice of social partnership and co-determination rights between management and workers beyond the regulated standards.

Volkswagen Group China has operated since 1984 in China, with the establishment of joint venture SAIC Volkswagen followed by FAW-Volkswagen in 1991 and JAC in 2017.[41] Independent trade unions in China are generally banned, with the All-China Federation of Trade Unions (ACTFU) being the only permitted one.[6]: 28 80% of VW China's 23,000 employees are unionized, and include a Works Council structure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_worker_organizations

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 10:00 am

steveschneider wrote:It’s nice to see RQA stand with labor instead of upper management and billionaires.

https://apnews.com/article/word-of-the-year-2022-80d02a3e0a347e542466571ca9cdb2ef?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_10

by **steveschneider** 11/28/2022, 10:22 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
steveschneider wrote:It’s nice to see RQA stand with labor instead of upper management and billionaires.

https://apnews.com/article/word-of-the-year-2022-80d02a3e0a347e542466571ca9cdb2ef?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_10

Trust me I know all about being gas lit.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 12:06 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

https://apnews.com/article/word-of-the-year-2022-80d02a3e0a347e542466571ca9cdb2ef?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_10

Trust me I know all about being gas lit.

Herr RQA is a master baiter gaslighter

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/28/2022, 12:17 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Trust me I know all about being gas lit.

Herr RQA is a master baiter

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by **Cameron** 11/28/2022, 4:37 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
steveschneider wrote:I saw Alyssa Milano traded her Tesla in and got a VW Electric instead. She’s leading the way!

Tesla has fit & finish issues & reliability issues, which in not much of a surprise for any engineer who has worked in the automotive industry. Sexy bells and whistles are fun, but it is a real grind to maintain the more noticed by the typical buyer features.

I suspect you have misunderstood the nature of her dissatisfaction with the Tesla brand.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/28/2022, 4:51 pm

Cameron wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Tesla has fit & finish issues & reliability issues, which in not much of a surprise for any engineer who has worked in the automotive industry. Sexy bells and whistles are fun, but it is a real grind to maintain the more noticed by the typical buyer features.

I suspect you have misunderstood the nature of her dissatisfaction with the Tesla brand.

I suspect you thought my "drive by shot" at Tesla had something to do with me providing a specific reason for her action. It did not.

by **steveschneider** 11/28/2022, 5:03 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
Cameron wrote:

I suspect you have misunderstood the nature of her dissatisfaction with the Tesla brand.

I suspect you thought my "drive by shot" at Tesla had something to do with me providing a specific reason for her action. It did not.

I knew what you meant. Elon Musk and Twitter - Page 11 969504605

by **Robert J Sakimano** 11/29/2022, 9:21 am

my wife told me that one of our anti-semitic, racist patriot's tweets was flagged by his own company as fake news? Elon Musk and Twitter - Page 11 420617953

Elon Musk and Twitter - Page 11 420617953

by **steveschneider** 11/29/2022, 10:02 am

Amanda Marcotte asks a great question is America over billionaires? Especially idiot ones. How many times do these idiots have to do a public face plant before we stop this ridiculous worship?

https://www.salon.com/2022/11/25/is-americas-infatuation-with-billionaires-finally--ifinallyi--coming-to-an-end/

by **Trapper Gus** 11/29/2022, 10:23 am

steveschneider wrote:Amanda Marcotte asks a great question is America over billionaires? Especially idiot ones. How many times do these idiots have to do a public face plant before we stop this ridiculous worship?

https://www.salon.com/2022/11/25/is-americas-infatuation-with-billionaires-finally--ifinallyi--coming-to-an-end/

Becoming rich is mostly about being in the right place at the right time - luck in other words.

No surprise if a rich person tries to replicate their success, they are unable to do so. Musk has enough money that he can just keep pouring it down into the sinkhole of twitter until it creates something, which any fool with money can do, but he is as dumb as rocks.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/29/2022, 10:40 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Amanda Marcotte asks a great question is America over billionaires? Especially idiot ones. How many times do these idiots have to do a public face plant before we stop this ridiculous worship?

https://www.salon.com/2022/11/25/is-americas-infatuation-with-billionaires-finally--ifinallyi--coming-to-an-end/

Becoming rich is mostly about being in the right place at the right time - luck in other words.

No surprise if a rich person tries to replicate their success, they are unable to do so. Musk has enough money that he can just keep pouring it down into the sinkhole of twitter until it creates something, which any fool with money can do, but he is as dumb as rocks.

It’s also about having an undiagnosed mental condition. Something akin to hoarding.

Last week there was a thread asking about what you would do if you were obscenely wealthy. No one said “reinvest that money in xyz business to become even more obscenely wealthy”. That’s because none of us have that mental health condition that a 100+ billionaire has. There comes a point, when you have more money than God, where it’s okay to just step away from it all and go enjoy living on whichever of your private islands you want to be on today. It is impossible for you to ever run out of money, no matter what you do, so there is no more point in trying to acquire more.

These guys don’t ever do that though, because the need for more more more money is ever present because again, they are mentally unwell people and the need to hoard more and more money is never sated for them.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/29/2022, 11:02 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Becoming rich is mostly about being in the right place at the right time - luck in other words.

No surprise if a rich person tries to replicate their success, they are unable to do so. Musk has enough money that he can just keep pouring it down into the sinkhole of twitter until it creates something, which any fool with money can do, but he is as dumb as rocks.

It’s also about having an undiagnosed mental condition. Something akin to hoarding.

Last week there was a thread asking about what you would do if you were obscenely wealthy. No one said “reinvest that money in xyz business to become even more obscenely wealthy”. That’s because none of us have that mental health condition that a 100+ billionaire has. There comes a point, when you have more money than God, where it’s okay to just step away from it all and go enjoy living on whichever of your private islands you want to be on today. It is impossible for you to ever run out of money, no matter what you do, so there is no more point in trying to acquire more.

These guys don’t ever do that though, because the need for more more more money is ever present because again, they are mentally unwell people and the need to hoard more and more money is never sated for them.

There have been some fascinating studies on money and expectations over the years. A majority of the population has an expectation of what their life should be and work to obtain the money to reach their life objective. In relationship to tax rates this is why increasing tax rates will cause people to find ways to increase their income to maintain the life expectations they have.

You are describing one set of wealthy. Musk appears to become bored. Twitter is his latest toy to keep him occupied.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/29/2022, 11:58 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

It’s also about having an undiagnosed mental condition. Something akin to hoarding.

Last week there was a thread asking about what you would do if you were obscenely wealthy. No one said “reinvest that money in xyz business to become even more obscenely wealthy”. That’s because none of us have that mental health condition that a 100+ billionaire has. There comes a point, when you have more money than God, where it’s okay to just step away from it all and go enjoy living on whichever of your private islands you want to be on today. It is impossible for you to ever run out of money, no matter what you do, so there is no more point in trying to acquire more.

These guys don’t ever do that though, because the need for more more more money is ever present because again, they are mentally unwell people and the need to hoard more and more money is never sated for them.

There have been some fascinating studies on money and expectations over the years. A majority of the population has an expectation of what their life should be and work to obtain the money to reach their life objective. In relationship to tax rates this is why increasing tax rates will cause people to find ways to increase their income to maintain the life expectations they have.

You are describing one set of wealthy. Musk appears to become bored. Twitter is his latest toy to keep him occupied.

Of course it is. Twitter isn’t a money making venture for him. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about the reasons why he had the insane amount of money that he had in the first place, which there is never really any reason for anyone to have.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/29/2022, 1:27 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

There have been some fascinating studies on money and expectations over the years. A majority of the population has an expectation of what their life should be and work to obtain the money to reach their life objective. In relationship to tax rates this is why increasing tax rates will cause people to find ways to increase their income to maintain the life expectations they have.

You are describing one set of wealthy. Musk appears to become bored. Twitter is his latest toy to keep him occupied.

Of course it is. Twitter isn’t a money making venture for him. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about the reasons why he had the insane amount of money that he had in the first place, which there is never really any reason for anyone to have.

He was lucky to be part of PayPal. Since then he has been sucking on the government tits with rockets and alternate energy.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/30/2022, 8:23 am

https://www.autonews.com/sales/tesla-losing-ev-market-share-sub-50000-rivals?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20221130&utm_content=hero-readmore

by RQA 11/30/2022, 3:05 pm

NigelUno wrote:

Do you know if her car was made in a nonunion plant?

VW's USA plants are nonunion.

My neighbor still has his 'Bernie' bumper sticker on his Camry.

Libs love their nonunion made cars. Right Bob?

by **Motown Spartan** 11/30/2022, 3:54 pm

RQA wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Do you know if her car was made in a nonunion plant?

VW's USA plants are nonunion.

My neighbor still has his 'Bernie' bumper sticker on his Camry.

Libs love their nonunion made cars. Right Bob?

I'm a "lib" and I drive a Ford F150 that was made in a very union plant in the good old U S of A. It's funny though because a lot, and I mean A LOT of good ole boy red blooded 'murican racist misogynist gun toting bible thumping Rebublicans drive vehicles that are assembled by union labor, but that's not hypocritical? It's only a one way street?

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